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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 13 2015 22:51 GMT
#21
On April 14 2015 07:42 Zess wrote:
I remember solo lane Janna was also a thing for a few glorious months before Riot un-approved it; was that ever played in a protect-the-AD comp?

The only person that got some notoriouty for it was Zekant, in solo queue, then it saw maybe like 2 or 3 progames before Riot to a giant steaming shit on it, it wasn't used as PADC iirc, it was used as a dedicated splitpusher, because of how stupid her Q was at wave clearing waves
liftlift > tsm
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2356 Posts
April 13 2015 23:05 GMT
#22
great read...
ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 13 2015 23:12 GMT
#23
On April 14 2015 07:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 07:42 Zess wrote:
I remember solo lane Janna was also a thing for a few glorious months before Riot un-approved it; was that ever played in a protect-the-AD comp?

The only person that got some notoriouty for it was Zekant, in solo queue, then it saw maybe like 2 or 3 progames before Riot to a giant steaming shit on it, it wasn't used as PADC iirc, it was used as a dedicated splitpusher, because of how stupid her Q was at wave clearing waves

Velocity used it in an ultra fast push comp with ezreal jungle. Won against marn, lost against dig.



I remember wrecking kids with TP janna mid, once nearly got a pentakill on her
Glorious SEA doto
xyrnn
Profile Joined April 2015
2 Posts
April 13 2015 23:43 GMT
#24
thank you for trying to source your images, but please don't source to sites like elohell, which are simply repost sites, without credit--the point of sourcing is so that the proper artists get credit for their images

the image from elohell is from this person's blog

that being said, this was an interesting article and very attractively formatted--the little clips were A+
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
April 14 2015 00:07 GMT
#25
On April 14 2015 08:43 xyrnn wrote:
thank you for trying to source your images, but please don't source to sites like elohell, which are simply repost sites, without credit--the point of sourcing is so that the proper artists get credit for their images

the image from elohell is from this person's blog

that being said, this was an interesting article and very attractively formatted--the little clips were A+


Hey, sorry, we had the correct source but forgot to edit it into the final draft, thanks for the catch. Has been fixed
TranslatorBaa!
xyrnn
Profile Joined April 2015
2 Posts
April 14 2015 01:55 GMT
#26
Hey, sorry, we had the correct source but forgot to edit it into the final draft, thanks for the catch. Has been fixed


thank you! it's nice to see images being properly sourced in the league community :')
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 14 2015 02:09 GMT
#27
Yeah I don't know why people don't reference the dignitas comp, which was really the first iteration of it. CLG ran comps to try to just burn the kog down and still couldn't do it.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
April 14 2015 04:07 GMT
#28
Dignitas is indeed getting shafted by this revisionist history.
日本語が分かりますか
CD_Mangaka
Profile Joined January 2015
United States50 Posts
April 14 2015 04:18 GMT
#29
On April 14 2015 01:33 wei2coolman wrote:
The lack of mention of Dignitas in IPL for this innovation is really sad... They were the ones to do buff the Kog, exactly like this in the midst of season 2, with Soraka mid, and nunu jungle. :/ (and I think they ran lulu in top, as well?)

edit: finished reading write up, pretty good analysis of GE's juggermaw, would have also liked to seen some contrast versus how Snake runs PADC, and their juggermaw comp. IMO, snake's insane teamfighting abilities make PADC comps, and juggermaw comps a lot more impressive to watch. just my opinion.



If you ever see this reply, I will admit that my analysis only extends so far as I do not watch LpL. Working a full time job leaves me with little time to watch League, so I prioritize catching up on LCK and NA LCS (C9 has been my favorite team for a while). Hopefully as I look to change things in my life, I can dedicate more time to watching League and improve my sources for writing. Thank you for the feedback though! Funnily enough, I was told that Dignitas in season 2 was an early innovater for PADC. I just didn't have the time to list every team which played around this style. It's why I cut out discussion of CLG's climb from relegation.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 14 2015 05:32 GMT
#30
On April 14 2015 13:18 CD_Mangaka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 01:33 wei2coolman wrote:
The lack of mention of Dignitas in IPL for this innovation is really sad... They were the ones to do buff the Kog, exactly like this in the midst of season 2, with Soraka mid, and nunu jungle. :/ (and I think they ran lulu in top, as well?)

edit: finished reading write up, pretty good analysis of GE's juggermaw, would have also liked to seen some contrast versus how Snake runs PADC, and their juggermaw comp. IMO, snake's insane teamfighting abilities make PADC comps, and juggermaw comps a lot more impressive to watch. just my opinion.



If you ever see this reply, I will admit that my analysis only extends so far as I do not watch LpL. Working a full time job leaves me with little time to watch League, so I prioritize catching up on LCK and NA LCS (C9 has been my favorite team for a while). Hopefully as I look to change things in my life, I can dedicate more time to watching League and improve my sources for writing. Thank you for the feedback though! Funnily enough, I was told that Dignitas in season 2 was an early innovater for PADC. I just didn't have the time to list every team which played around this style. It's why I cut out discussion of CLG's climb from relegation.

I'm not quite sure how workflow work in regards to how you guy get your articles out, but I'm surprised no staff mentioned the Dig games from IPL. The write up was quite good, especially the nuanced difference between PADC with lulu+Kog, vs Juggermaw.
liftlift > tsm
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
April 14 2015 06:34 GMT
#31
To be fair, iirc the Dignitas comp would often throw all their stuff on the Mundo to have him act as the juggernaut while the AD carry acts more as the clean-up guy.

But yea, Dignitas was the original inventors of the solo-lane support.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 15 2015 15:17 GMT
#32
On April 14 2015 15:34 Ryuu314 wrote:
To be fair, iirc the Dignitas comp would often throw all their stuff on the Mundo to have him act as the juggernaut while the AD carry acts more as the clean-up guy.

But yea, Dignitas was the original inventors of the solo-lane support.

Dive wasn't as strong back then as it is now, so it could make the mundo invincible, or bring the kog to mundo levels of tankiness. Either would work so long as the target absorbs cooldowns and doesn't die in the process.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
April 15 2015 18:38 GMT
#33
Great article. Lulu + Kog art too cute
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
April 16 2015 05:06 GMT
#34
That Sejuani 1man ult onto Lulu and then the team just wrecking Kog was so dirty I have to take a shower.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
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