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Literally the 1% for supports (but I guess it's the wrong direction).
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loSleb
Austria1389 Posts
LOL Literally the 1% for supports (but I guess it's the wrong direction). | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
He only has data for support and fighter while I have data for support, fighter, mage and adc. Both my fighter and support warding is higher than his but this site isn't accounting for your specific role because since he only has two roles his average appears higher and thus inflates his score over mine. While the individual wards per game is probably accurate it probably doesn't account for the wards you clear (or blue trinket use) which it definitely should. The WardScore it produces is a joke however. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 03 2015 01:42 Ghost-z wrote: I literally ward more than my brother does based on their sample yet his "score" is almost twice mine. He only has data for support and fighter while I have data for support, fighter, mage and adc. Both my fighter and support warding is higher than his but this site isn't accounting for your specific role because since he only has two roles his average appears higher and thus inflates his score over mine. While the individual wards per game is probably accurate it probably doesn't account for the wards you clear (or blue trinket use) which it definitely should. The WardScore it produces is a joke however. Of course the wardscore is a joke, elo/mmr is a much better measure regarding how skilled you are You don't get elo for placing wards, you get elo for using them properly It's just interesting to see how bad people are at warding as a whole. You'd think someone who buys 0 wards would be labeled as "complete trash" as opposed to "mediocre" | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On March 02 2015 23:39 ConanTroutman wrote: What makes that specific to Malzahar? Seems like something you could do with a lot of junglers... Probably, but to my knowledge not many junglers can smiteless blue without a leash this season, and noone wards against a potential Malzahar invade :p | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On March 02 2015 18:53 Fildun wrote: I feel like sieging inhib towers without Baron/5th dragon has been made a lot harder, which in turn also made it harder to turn a small gold lead into a victory. Yeah. I dunno, before you could just dive people ezpz for towers when you had a small lead. Now those towers way too strong. You have to play the game out slow, gives themaybe a chance to climb back in the game if they ward well Defensively and build big purchases for fights. One throw before and you could usually just end the game. Now a days, having five guys seiging the defenders at their T2 means nothing, if you dive at all in this spot you trade evenly at best and probably don't get the tower. Meanwhile their missing parties knockdown your towers. Suddenly it is an even game. S4 and most of S3 in that situation you dove, killed three, got an inhib. Maybe other two people derp and you just won, if not you just rinse and repeat until you win. Now you have to stall until you have a huge lead or 5 drakes or baron, or the other team gets caught playing Dora the Explorer. | ||
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kongoline
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MidnightGladius
China1214 Posts
On March 03 2015 02:28 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Probably, but to my knowledge not many junglers can smiteless blue without a leash this season, and noone wards against a potential Malzahar invade :p You're using the ranged positioning trick to prevent blue buff from attacking you, right? I have to think that it's only a matter of time before that gets patched out  | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On March 03 2015 02:37 kongoline wrote: i hate how tier2 towers have shield it makes it so much harder to push (monte says split pushing is dead because of it) And yet we still see split pushing as a strategy in professional games. Not everything Monte says is "100% take it as fact" | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 03 2015 03:07 Disengaged wrote: And yet we still see split pushing as a strategy in professional games. Not everything Monte says is "100% take it as fact" Pro games aren't indicative of solo q play, which is why champs like lb, zed, lee, thresh, insertfakerchampion here are all terrible in solo q That having been said, split pushing is still good, shacos and tryndameres are still really annoying, it's just a lot harder to tower dive people under the laser turrets due to the massive 15% damage reduction from the laser | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 03 2015 03:14 101toss wrote: Pro games aren't indicative of solo q play, which is why champs like lb, zed, lee, thresh, insertfakerchampion here are all terrible in solo q At this point, I'm fairly convinced you don't even play this game. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 03 2015 03:19 jcarlsoniv wrote: At this point, I'm fairly convinced you don't even play this game. Master players play a different game than bronze players | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 03 2015 03:07 Disengaged wrote: And yet we still see split pushing as a strategy in professional games. Not everything Monte says is "100% take it as fact" Ehh, I dunno about that. We don't see Jax level splitpushing anymore. What we do see is fairly weak splitpushing in comparison to last season, and the seasons before. The only time we sort of see hard splitpushing is after baron, cuz spreading baron buff to all 3 lanes is really op'd. | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 03 2015 03:38 Chexx wrote: I have no idea how you can say that Thresh is bad?! Especially after saying that Master players play different. WTF Solo queue thresh? Why in the world would you pick thresh when blitz is so much better (better hooks/cc, movespeed, tankiness and damage)? The only reason thresh is good in progames is the lantern is used effectively. In solo queue, the lantern effectiveness is 10% of what it is in a progame. Same shit as other champs like rengar where in progames rengar goes stealth in a fully lit map so it actually means something, while in solo q that significant aspect goes away so rengar becomes a shitty assassin. And if you're still skeptical, please tell me why there's such a massive winrate gap. I've heard the "bad people pick thresh cuz they don't know how to play support," but then you have j4 (before the most recent nerf) where people who don't know how to jungle pick him and yet his winrate is actually high. http://champion.gg/statistics/#?sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend&roleSort=Support | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On March 03 2015 03:45 101toss wrote: Solo queue thresh? Why in the world would you pick thresh when blitz is so much better (better hooks/cc, movespeed, tankiness and damage)? The only reason thresh is good in progames is the lantern is used effectively. In solo queue, the lantern effectiveness is 10% of what it is in a progame. Same shit as other champs like rengar where in progames rengar goes stealth in a fully lit map so it actually means something, while in solo q that significant aspect goes away so rengar becomes a shitty assassin. And if you're still skeptical, please tell me why there's such a massive winrate gap. I've heard the "bad people pick thresh cuz they don't know how to play support," but then you have j4 (before the most recent nerf) where people who don't know how to jungle pick him and yet his winrate is actually high. doesnt make the champion bad makes the players bad. Also Thresh offers more than just his hook. His E and ultimate are great. Need to communicate more to unlock Thresh whole kit | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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101toss
3232 Posts
On March 03 2015 04:11 Slusher wrote: Even when I do agree with you 101toss you come across as such a duche I want to disagree. Of course I'm a douche, I play solo queue after all It's probably from all the mental scarring from going through platinum 1 so many times. + Show Spoiler + While I come off as a condescending elitist asshole, I do it out of love and wanting to help you all get elo, not just so I can talk shit about people. Besides, isn't TL known for being condescending and elitist :^) | ||
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