EPTOn February 28 2015 07:50 Scip wrote:
4 more dmg on Q
epicest skarner buff of all time
4 more dmg on Q
epicest skarner buff of all time
Well, since a 4 dmg nerf will make every champion ever completely useless, this obviously means he will be OP.
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Fildun
Netherlands4124 Posts
Well, since a 4 dmg nerf will make every champion ever completely useless, this obviously means he will be OP. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On February 28 2015 07:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: GP10 is site for everyone's first step if you want to get published somewhere with something correlated with League of Legends. Gosugamers is kinda cool nowdays, their my primary results source for last 5 years, can't whine too much. I say it jokingly. Gosugamers was always a good source for WC3 results and had at worst equal coverage as TL in terms of BW but there was a joke that when people got banned from TL they went to GG. Btw how do you guys check your ping before a game starts? I used to use a windows gadget called ping monitor but recently it has broken and I can't get it to work again. It just shows a little stub where there used to be an application with charts. I've tried LSI but it only gives ping. Pingtest works showing packet loss but it's only for a period of time and has to be manually run all the time. And pingplotter works but it uses a lot of packets and only tracks a short period of time. Nvm found one called iping. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 28 2015 06:47 Ryuu314 wrote: super late on this response but anyways I have 0 problem with Riot wanting to nerf Kassadin into the ground. I have a problem with the way they did it. Riot takes the most iconic, unique, central portion of Kassadin's it and guts it and makes it one of the shittiest ults in the game. It's especially irking when their patch rundown says they wanted to "keep the fantasy of hyper mobility" or something like that to this this retarded change. Personally, I think Riot's problem with Kassadin is that he provides a ton of burst that can't be responded to, even after the removal of his silence. Riftwalk+combo+zhonya's if necessary is really strong and can be really oppressive. However, there's essentially three parts of what makes Kassadin annoying right now: mobility+burst+catching potential on E. Riot choses to nerf mobility, which I find retarded and lazy balancing. IMO, I would nerf his burst: cut the base damage on his Q/E levels 2~5 by a significant margin and move some of that power to his W passive and active. Force Kassadin to get up close and stay up close in order to benefit from his kit. We have plenty of mobile assassins already (see Leblanc, Ahri, Zed). I mean RE on the backline, but I think you got the gist. They needed to take the CC off of E and put it on W, so you had to auto a champion to slow them. The spammable slow on the backline is just silly. Its kinda like when Ez W was a really good trading tool because you couldn't hide behind minions, except the teamfight version of that. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
On February 28 2015 07:27 Goumindong wrote: No. You need wards for seeing over walls during sieges and you need sweepers and pinks to prevent the same. its super fucking minor and 1 trinket isnt going to make a difference | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Nautilus actually runs himself oom really fast if he uses E on cooldown as is (and even with simple "frequent" usage), including in teamfights. The cost of the changed ability is nowhere low enough to make up for the cd change and the slow nerf (it's also absurdly hard to hit without being in actual melee range of the target anyway because of Nautilus' big model and the atrocious cast time and animation of the spell). And what do we get in exchange? Oh hey let's fucking gut Titan's Wrath again! What a great idea, while the main reason he's so weak in the jungle is how the damage/HP is centered on a camp's big monster, the damage from W already took a huge hit (basically reduced by 30% at high levels) and it made his midgame ganks a lot weaker because he didn't provide much damage anymore and relied on the laner for it. The Cinder Hulk thing is interesting, however there's a loss of Tenacity and CDR for the tanky route. Gotta have to figure it out. I'm also not a fan of how they use an item as a proxy for all tanks. If the item is bonkers, then others will abuse it, and once the item doesn't work anymore (because reworked, jungle changes, or just nerfs) you're back to square one. I'd rather they make a tamer item (I mean, I'm waiting to see how these damage numbers pan out obviously) combined with buffs to tanks' clears or early damage/sustain, so they have more levers and things aren't as binary. ... who the heck al I kidding, this is Riot's design we're talking about. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
amazing, where did they get this idea from?!? | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Goumindong
United States3529 Posts
On February 28 2015 07:51 Slusher wrote: I wish they would have introduced this cinder thing before nerfing warrior, if the numbers are good it seems like the items could easily compete not sure about the naut changes, are they trying to discourage maxing shield??? I think they're tweaking him because the cinder item will be stronger for his kit | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On February 28 2015 08:33 nafta wrote: My butthole already hurts from the sivir/lulu sped up tanks with that item+sunfire+thornmail+smited frog.God have mercy It's a unique passive so its almost certain sunfire will have the same passive name so they won't stack. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On February 28 2015 08:38 PrinceXizor wrote: It's a unique passive so its almost certain sunfire will have the same passive name so they won't stack. Yea didnt really pay attention first time I looked through praise jesus. that ptsd from early s3 too strong | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
They need to give tank junglers more damage in their kit, and just bite the bullet on accepting the fact that one or two of them are going to turn into top laners like Maokai did. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On February 28 2015 09:20 Kinie wrote: Jungle is still going to suck. Why? Because the Cinderhulk enchantment will be added at (near) basically the time you'd finish up the original Juggernaut enchantment. It forces you to go back to get the item at a potentially awkward time (in theory, around the time dragon #1 or dragon #2 fights will occur) for a passive that is only going to help you clear camps for 2-4 more passes through the jungle before lane phase ends and the other laners start taking your minions for gold. They need to give tank junglers more damage in their kit, and just bite the bullet on accepting the fact that one or two of them are going to turn into top laners like Maokai did. Which wouldn't be so bad IMO. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 28 2015 09:20 Kinie wrote: Jungle is still going to suck. Why? Because the Cinderhulk enchantment will be added at (near) basically the time you'd finish up the original Juggernaut enchantment. It forces you to go back to get the item at a potentially awkward time (in theory, around the time dragon #1 or dragon #2 fights will occur) for a passive that is only going to help you clear camps for 2-4 more passes through the jungle before lane phase ends and the other laners start taking your minions for gold. They need to give tank junglers more damage in their kit, and just bite the bullet on accepting the fact that one or two of them are going to turn into top laners like Maokai did. should just give tank abilities +% damage to jungle monsters. Lol. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 28 2015 09:51 Kinie wrote: My suggestion is to bring back Quill Coat for tank junglers and then let it turn into this Cinderhulk enchantment so that a tank jungler can turn his jungle item into something that's at least sort of useful for team fights (just like how Warrior, Arcane, and Devourer enchantments are meant to be used against champions). Quill coat actually just sucked though. Like it kept you healthy but who cares you couldn't kill creeps in a reasonable time frame. Thats why no one used it competitively. | ||
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