[Patch 5.4] Wubwubwub General Discussion - Page 18

On February 27 2015 23:30 739 wrote:
First warding and sightstone discussion and now this? Huh.

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On February 27 2015 23:57 739 wrote:
http://oce.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/esports/esports-editorial/opl-competitive-ruling-rg-dayshifted



LOL, chat logs pls.

On February 27 2015 23:34 101toss wrote:

What discussion is there to have? Have you seen low elo players play?

A bad bruiser >>> a bad adc. Yes, people like wildturtle do work, but if you can't play adc, a bruiser is going to be better since it's easier and more forgiving

On February 28 2015 00:52 Mikau wrote:
So apparently getting disconnected from ranked team games (3s in this case) puts you in low prio queue as well. I mean it's my own fault, my pc overheats a lot and I took the risk, but shouldn't it be on my ranked teammates to decide whether or not this is acceptable for me? If they accept the fact that I might overheat and dc, why does the game have to tell me I can't do it? Who exactly am I griefing here?

On February 27 2015 05:49 Ansibled wrote:


So the original conversation was talking about selling Sightstone for Lichbane as a sixth item. This isn't about some hypothetical magic land where supports get infinite amounts of gold. Items like Mikaels and Locket give you a lot more effectiveness in fights for how much you spend.

Selling your sightstone for Lich Bane is stupid. Lich Bane has no place on support itemisation, including in the lategame. You will never be at a gold/experience threshold, again even in the lategame, to do enough damage and there are almost no supports that have an appropriate kit to do what you're suggesting. This kind of ability to blow people up is vision reliant too, and you're selling sightstone to make this happen.

Even if you have itemised something like Deathcap/Lich/Void, you're still not going to be at a strong enough item threshold to kill an ADC with everything up at 60 minutes. You're never going to get to a point where you are at a comparable item level to your midlaner in a game that isn't troll and you sacrifice so much team utility and power to even try.

What are you planning to do, Flash within 500 range to land a Sona powerchord? You will flash forward into their team and instantly die, support aren't assassins. The important targets will have some form of defense in Banshees/QSS and you won't do enough damage to kill anything with a Lich Bane. If the support could easily do what you're suggesting they would be played in lane that gets farm.

On February 28 2015 03:58 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
You're paying 400g for the wards which is the only relevant part of the comparison.

On February 28 2015 04:03 101toss wrote:
Sightstone takes up one of your ruby crystals which could have meant an earlier real item (ie you delayed an aegis by 800 gold)

Plus 400 (+ruby crystal) gold upfront early game is much more costly than say 75g each b and then your 250 trinket at level 9 (where 250g matters less). Even more cost if you delayed upgrading your gp5 (idk what these are called now) item for the sightstone due to lost extra gold income. Also, it takes up an inventory slot and you end up selling your sightstone eventually anyway as previously mentioned (I'm surprised people even consider ruby sightstone part of a full build).

It's a similar concept to a riven showing up to lane with 2 long swords compared to your 1 long sword at level 1 vs her having a long sword on you at level 9. Only a 360g advantage for both cases, but very substantial differences in laning. Granted, the setback sightstone gives you isn't as big as this, but it's still pretty damn noticable.

All-ins at level 6 (or in general) can be decided by 400g in items. I've seen many pre-9 botlane where fights get decided by a margin of <100hp (ie support lived long enough to kill the other champions first). They almost always end up in my favor cuz, you know, I don't buy wards :^)

tl;dr: sightstone is the new madred's bloodrazor in terms of noob traps

On February 28 2015 03:56 Osmoses wrote:
Then I guess the giants belt doesnt count towards warmogs? What kind of logic is that?

On February 28 2015 04:03 101toss wrote:
Sightstone takes up one of your ruby crystals which could have meant an earlier real item (ie you delayed an aegis by 800 gold)

Plus 400 (+ruby crystal) gold upfront early game is much more costly than say 75g each b and then your 250 trinket at level 9 (where 250g matters less). Even more cost if you delayed upgrading your gp5 (idk what these are called now) item for the sightstone due to lost extra gold income. Also, it takes up an inventory slot and you end up selling your sightstone eventually anyway as previously mentioned (I'm surprised people even consider ruby sightstone part of a full build).

It's a similar concept to a riven showing up to lane with 2 long swords compared to your 1 long sword at level 1 vs her having a long sword on you at level 9. Only a 360g advantage for both cases, but very substantial differences in laning. Granted, the setback sightstone gives you isn't as big as this, but it's still pretty damn noticable.

All-ins at level 6 (or in general) can be decided by 400g in items. I've seen many pre-9 botlane where fights get decided by a margin of <100hp (ie support lived long enough to kill the other champions first). They almost always end up in my favor cuz, you know, I don't buy wards :^)

tl;dr: sightstone is the new madred's bloodrazor in terms of noob traps

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They almost always end up in my favor cuz, you know, I don't buy wards :^)

tl;dr: sightstone is the new madred's bloodrazor in terms of noob traps