Bard, the Wandering Caretaker, revealed - Page 2

On February 25 2015 05:39 sob3k wrote:
Interestingly, people shown moving through his tunnel seem to have a bubble around them. Does this mean they have immunity in transit or shield? It would be kind of odd to have people die or be CCed in the middle of a big wall. However, if they do have immunity that's pretty exploitable.

On February 25 2015 06:32 TheYango wrote:

Not to mention that literally the only the passive has any useful interaction with being a full-time roaming support.

Lack of strong rank 1 nukes and reliable disables pre-6 hurt the idea of being a roamer more than the passive could realistically help, unless the XP gain is so overtuned that you can hit 2 off of running around the map doing nothing in reasonable time.

On February 25 2015 06:44 MoonBear wrote:
I DUN GOOFED

On a side note, that Ult is going to be super troll for securing objectives it looks like. Run up to Baron, Ult the enemy team, then trololol away with Baron for free.

On February 25 2015 07:59 sob3k wrote:


Lets not over-exaggerate Yango. The health pack is perfectly fitting in a roaming kit.

The passive should be quite strong to incentivize the roam, as it cannot be exploited in combination with laning. You either lane and get normal EXP, or go collect chimes, you can't ever really stack them unless one happens to spawn right next to a huge wave. Therefore the chimes can provide almost as much experience as creeps. No monay though.

The Q looks like I could be decently reliable, the slow is very strong (its literally 3 seconds long and looks like around 60-80%) from the video, and it procs stun on creeps or walls. His roaming power will come down to the power level of his passive damage and packs. He could be a successful roamer just based on healthpacks if they were overtuned enough (I don't think they are but they could be).

On February 25 2015 08:32 DNeon wrote:


Now that you mention the CC potential, I wonder if he could become a jungler? lvl 1 start w heal and throw a bunch of them down along your first clear (depending on how long they last), since your damage seems to come from passive pikmin clearing gromp/krugs to get the extra clearing power could supplement the damage definitely still slow though, and then his ganks would be insane (especially with a chime buff).

On February 25 2015 08:41 sob3k wrote:


No way, His passive is only intermittent damage (a la thresh chargup, good in lane terrible in jungle), his Q is 2 target. Just not enough damage to clear. His clearing looks much slower than even like leona, and she isn't viable even with her pure terror ganks.

On February 25 2015 09:42 DNeon wrote:


We don't know how much damage Q or passive will do yet, and passive is AoE if there are enough pikmin, and I'm not certain that it's such a problem to be only able to damage 2. If it proves to be loaded to make up for the rest of his kit being damage free then lvl krug/gromp to get the additional damage and clear with Q passive. That said I'm not hopeful for the base stats to do it, just saying that it has potential to maybe happen.

On February 25 2015 09:48 sob3k wrote:


We kinda do know how much damage he will do, because if he does enough with passive and Q to be an adequate jungler we have a broken as fuck laner on our hands and he won't be seen in the jungle anyway.

On February 25 2015 09:42 DNeon wrote:
We don't know how much damage Q or passive will do yet, and passive is AoE if there are enough pikmin, and I'm not certain that it's such a problem to be only able to damage 2. If it proves to be loaded to make up for the rest of his kit being damage free then lvl krug/gromp to get the additional damage and clear with Q passive. That said I'm not hopeful for the base stats to do it, just saying that it has potential to maybe happen.

On February 25 2015 07:59 sob3k wrote:
Lets not over-exaggerate Yango. The health pack is perfectly fitting in a roaming kit.

The passive should be quite strong to incentivize the roam, as it cannot be exploited in combination with laning. You either lane and get normal EXP, or go collect chimes, you can't ever really stack them unless one happens to spawn right next to a huge wave. Therefore the chimes can provide almost as much experience as creeps. No monay though.

The Q looks like I could be decently reliable, the slow is very strong (its literally 3 seconds long and looks like around 60-80%) from the video, and it procs stun on creeps or walls. His roaming power will come down to the power level of his passive damage and packs. He could be a successful roamer just based on healthpacks if they were overtuned enough (I don't think they are but they could be).

On February 25 2015 10:52 TheYango wrote:


I'm not over-exaggerating. A strong heal doesn't make a strong roamer. More than anything, it makes a strong laner.

A roamer has to be doing enough to justify the fact that the lane he's not in is a 2v1. Generally, this has to involve offensive potential in the other lanes. An efficient heal is simply not compelling enough to make roaming potential. Even when champions like Soraka and Sona had totally bullshit healing ability, you didn't see them running around the map healing people in other lanes--because when you have a monstrously powerful heal, it's WAY more bullshit to abuse in a lane. Sustain has value in extended laning, but if you're going to run around NOT being in lanes and not jungling, you need the ability to kill things.

Pretty much all the successful roaming champions when it was a thing all had 2 nukes the moment they hit level 2 with high base damage.