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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 02 2015 08:53 GMT
#2061
KeSPA President said that they plan to add a LoL Event to the KeSPA Cup in November of this year.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
September 02 2015 10:07 GMT
#2062
On September 02 2015 17:53 Chexx wrote:
KeSPA President said that they plan to add a LoL Event to the KeSPA Cup in November of this year.

This was during the Champions final interview that they randomly decided to not translate?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
September 02 2015 14:03 GMT
#2063
On September 02 2015 14:44 geript wrote:
The fact that he's grandfathered in as NA 'native' while being solid IMO could help if he could sustain a roleswap or replace Quas. I'm guessing with his longer time in US equates to stronger mastery of communication in English which may help. Historically, role swaps (especially to jungle) haven't worked out. But it is in the least worth exploring as an option.


Hai kinda blew up the "roleswapping to jungle never works" theory, though.

Also, I don't think Seraph is a better player than Quas is, and replacing Quas is not the way to go for TL (if anything, it'd be Xpecial on the chopping block).
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Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-02 14:38:25
September 02 2015 14:37 GMT
#2064
If TL replaces anyone, it should be Dom for a good shotcaller. If they can't find a good shotcalling jungler, they'll need to fundamentally redo who is doing calls in game, because Dom's are not good. Like, some of the worst in NA.

Everyone else is mechanically fine, but all their problems right now are very clearly from just being really shit at taking fights and playing out those fights. That's a shotcalling problem.
XDG Mata
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-02 17:09:26
September 02 2015 17:04 GMT
#2065
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64806

Meanwhile in China, it seems that DreamS was on his last legs with the World Elite org and has now gotten the boot after smashing M3's AC.

I would like to note though that this is far from the first big M3 drama, this team's basically been a trainwreck of people hating eachother. Benching eachother, unbenching eachother and overall they've been in flames.
Glorious SEA doto
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 02 2015 17:06 GMT
#2066
On September 02 2015 23:03 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 14:44 geript wrote:
The fact that he's grandfathered in as NA 'native' while being solid IMO could help if he could sustain a roleswap or replace Quas. I'm guessing with his longer time in US equates to stronger mastery of communication in English which may help. Historically, role swaps (especially to jungle) haven't worked out. But it is in the least worth exploring as an option.


Hai kinda blew up the "roleswapping to jungle never works" theory, though.

Also, I don't think Seraph is a better player than Quas is, and replacing Quas is not the way to go for TL (if anything, it'd be Xpecial on the chopping block).

Hai isn't a good jungler just like he wasn't a good mid-laner. His strength isn't his mechanics or outplay ability. Hai's strength has always laid in his ability to "coach" the team during the game. He helps out think the opponents and jungle is a pretty great area to hide mechanical inability.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
September 02 2015 17:23 GMT
#2067
On September 03 2015 02:04 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64806

Meanwhile in China, it seems that DreamS was on his last legs with the World Elite org and has now gotten the boot after smashing M3's AC.

I would like to note though that this is far from the first big M3 drama, this team's basically been a trainwreck of people hating eachother. Benching eachother, unbenching eachother and overall they've been in flames.


WE/WE.A/M3 is by far the best drama mill in all of China, but no one really cares.

From AhrI to smlz to Candy to Ruo to Dreams, it has been one hilarious sequence of events :D
TranslatorBaa!
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 02 2015 17:44 GMT
#2068
On September 03 2015 02:04 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64806

Meanwhile in China, it seems that DreamS was on his last legs with the World Elite org and has now gotten the boot after smashing M3's AC.

I would like to note though that this is far from the first big M3 drama, this team's basically been a trainwreck of people hating eachother. Benching eachother, unbenching eachother and overall they've been in flames.



Even the Chinese drama scene is stronger than the West ...
lindless
Profile Joined May 2015
Sweden40 Posts
September 02 2015 22:01 GMT
#2069
On September 02 2015 23:03 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 14:44 geript wrote:
The fact that he's grandfathered in as NA 'native' while being solid IMO could help if he could sustain a roleswap or replace Quas. I'm guessing with his longer time in US equates to stronger mastery of communication in English which may help. Historically, role swaps (especially to jungle) haven't worked out. But it is in the least worth exploring as an option.


Hai kinda blew up the "roleswapping to jungle never works" theory, though.

Also, I don't think Seraph is a better player than Quas is, and replacing Quas is not the way to go for TL (if anything, it'd be Xpecial on the chopping block).

Really depends on how high u rate other teams in NA aswell, i'd say Ambition is doing about as good as Hai and it's .. not looking good for CJ. Sure, it would work in NA but meh
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
September 03 2015 05:02 GMT
#2070
Seraph over Quas is a crazy idea. Quas is a top 3 NA toplaner. Of TL's players only Fenix has vastly superior options in the region and even then it's arguable.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3632 Posts
September 03 2015 06:37 GMT
#2071
On September 03 2015 02:04 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.esportsheaven.com/news/view/64806

Meanwhile in China, it seems that DreamS was on his last legs with the World Elite org and has now gotten the boot after smashing M3's AC.

I would like to note though that this is far from the first big M3 drama, this team's basically been a trainwreck of people hating eachother. Benching eachother, unbenching eachother and overall they've been in flames.

i don't understand how you go from "i have a fever" to "smash the AC" but ok
?
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
September 03 2015 12:58 GMT
#2072
On September 03 2015 14:02 Amarok wrote:
Seraph over Quas is a crazy idea. Quas is a top 3 NA toplaner. Of TL's players only Fenix has vastly superior options in the region and even then it's arguable.


Quas is so far above Seraph it isn't funny, zero chance he gets replaced. Quas is almost TLs best player honestly. Dominate has been the weakness for some time now yet is still there somehow.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 03 2015 16:14 GMT
#2073
https://www.facebook.com/UnicornsOfLove/posts/433993133458888?fref=nf

UoL states that they will be making "major changes"
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 03 2015 16:20 GMT
#2074
I hope this means they building a team around Vardags.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
September 03 2015 16:34 GMT
#2075
Inb4 it's just Sheepy stepping down TO MANAGE.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Sonnington
Profile Joined December 2012
United States1107 Posts
September 03 2015 16:52 GMT
#2076
Replace Quas with Seraph? That's a weird suggestion. Seraph has a small but extremely passionate fan base. I wonder what that's about. Anyway:

http://www.dailydot.com/esports/team-liquid-iwilldominate-moon/

There's hope that TL will get a new jungler. Not sure who Moon is or if he's better. I'm not sure if Dom can get better at shotcalling. There was that game this year where the enemy team(I think it was TSM) had just gotten 5th dragon and he made a call to all in the flanking Rumble in the choke point left of the red side blue buff. I mean, they had -just- gotten 5th dragon. TL was there contesting it. Then the game ended. There was obviously a lot more questionable shot calling throughout the last few splits, but that call to jump on Rumble was among the worst calls I've ever seen. That's not something you can coach out of someone I don't think.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 03 2015 17:31 GMT
#2077
to be fair if you've given up 5th dragon things already went wrong along the way
Carrilord has arrived.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
September 03 2015 17:38 GMT
#2078
On September 04 2015 01:52 Sonnington wrote:
Replace Quas with Seraph? That's a weird suggestion. Seraph has a small but extremely passionate fan base. I wonder what that's about. Anyway:

http://www.dailydot.com/esports/team-liquid-iwilldominate-moon/

There's hope that TL will get a new jungler. Not sure who Moon is or if he's better. I'm not sure if Dom can get better at shotcalling. There was that game this year where the enemy team(I think it was TSM) had just gotten 5th dragon and he made a call to all in the flanking Rumble in the choke point left of the red side blue buff. I mean, they had -just- gotten 5th dragon. TL was there contesting it. Then the game ended. There was obviously a lot more questionable shot calling throughout the last few splits, but that call to jump on Rumble was among the worst calls I've ever seen. That's not something you can coach out of someone I don't think.


Moon is 14a, probably best NA jungle talent (with XJ9 not going pro :<).
If they get proper coaching staff for once, he might grow big time.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
September 03 2015 17:39 GMT
#2079
On September 03 2015 07:01 lindless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2015 23:03 BrownBear wrote:
On September 02 2015 14:44 geript wrote:
The fact that he's grandfathered in as NA 'native' while being solid IMO could help if he could sustain a roleswap or replace Quas. I'm guessing with his longer time in US equates to stronger mastery of communication in English which may help. Historically, role swaps (especially to jungle) haven't worked out. But it is in the least worth exploring as an option.


Hai kinda blew up the "roleswapping to jungle never works" theory, though.

Also, I don't think Seraph is a better player than Quas is, and replacing Quas is not the way to go for TL (if anything, it'd be Xpecial on the chopping block).

Really depends on how high u rate other teams in NA aswell, i'd say Ambition is doing about as good as Hai and it's .. not looking good for CJ. Sure, it would work in NA but meh


Sure, it's probably different depending on overall region skill, but I would still rate taking a team from 1-7 (or was it 1-9, i forget) to a Worlds slot as "working".
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neulin
Profile Joined January 2015
Lithuania45 Posts
September 06 2015 21:57 GMT
#2080

I wonder where...
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