And she's only bad in teamfights Teut, AP Nid destroys people during skirmishes in the early-midgame, when they last long enough for her to move around and leave/reengage, and stuff like 2v2s or 3v3s in the jungle.
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
And she's only bad in teamfights Teut, AP Nid destroys people during skirmishes in the early-midgame, when they last long enough for her to move around and leave/reengage, and stuff like 2v2s or 3v3s in the jungle. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
dunno i have reverse shaco syndrome with nidalee my nidalee destroys the enemies but enemy team nidalees always seem useless to me | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 01 2015 02:33 Slayer91 wrote: yeah but who gets 4 gas and lair before getting a spire wtf Not before, during. Used to be really popular years and years ago. You could pop out like 8 mutas exactly the moment your spire pops and produce lings constantly to flood the map and create run-bys. Kinda cheesy, but it was a legit thing before people / maps got figured out how to wall off consistantly, so people could just started doing hard timing attacks like 10 seconds before your spire would pop and you just kind of died. I should stop talking I'm dating myself. lol. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
tldr bad metaphor just use phreaks all dude potential thing count the number of dudes on the map, 5-that number is the number of dudes that can potentially be in any bush depending on ward converage you can eliminate some areas of the map | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On February 01 2015 02:28 Ketara wrote: Pretty much the thing you never smite is wolves. invade + wolf smite is really good actually | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 01 2015 03:17 Slayer91 wrote: and then you realized you can just get 9 mutas instantly off 2 gas tldr bad metaphor just use phreaks all dude potential thing count the number of dudes on the map, 5-that number is the number of dudes that can potentially be in any bush depending on ward converage you can eliminate some areas of the map Holy shit, yeah you're right. Was thinking SCII style geysers, dont know why. My bad. But yeah, that was my point. You can also further reduce that number depending on how much map awareness you have. On February 01 2015 03:18 Slusher wrote: invade + wolf smite is really good actually Or you could just... ward it? Lasts longer. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23460 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On February 01 2015 03:28 iCanada wrote: Holy shit, yeah you're right. Was thinking SCII style geysers, dont know why. My bad. But yeah, that was my point. You can also further reduce that number depending on how much map awareness you have. Or you could just... ward it? Lasts longer. Yeah but the spirit actively seeks champions that enter that side. It's pretty useful. | ||
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Riot pls. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
that said New Trist seems decent, overall nerfed but the bomb has hilarious damage potential not comparing her to old her, just to other ADs I think her only problem that might keep her from being top tier is the cast time on E, it feels like an eternity. The way the jump mechanic works with the bomb it feels really weird that the bomb does not reset on kill, I imagine they probly tested it and deemed it op, but it doesn't stop it from feeling weird when you are in cleanup mode and you get your jump back but not the bomb. idk just my thoughts after like 3 games only | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On February 01 2015 04:08 Slusher wrote: Riot's update team's lack of nostalgia really bothers me, they always ditch my favorite lines anyone remember this thing called the journal of justice? neither do i | ||
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Sonnington
United States1107 Posts
On February 01 2015 00:21 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: You know what is more frustrating? Having 1 sweeper in team because people are "never changing their trinkets because they can bait sweeps". Sometimes I really miss my season 2/3, I better have 0 gold and setup vision alone than wait for some miracle when mid is going to change his trinket 50 minutes in. Wow, that's oddly specific. You'd prefer your support not warding at all to a support who wards? Or do you have some sort of vendetta directed at me? Can't help but notice you keep disparaging my posts in bizarre or simply wrong ways. I miss season 3 too sometimes. I had way too much fun playing LeBlanc building DFG-Void-Oracle with a handful of wards and nothing else. Just sitting in a brush waiting to 100 to 0 anyone who came close. Then taking towers because of the increased death timers. People thought LB was strong in early season 4. Totally untrue, she was way stronger season 3 when mid game picks actually made a big difference. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On February 01 2015 04:27 Sonnington wrote: Wow, that's oddly specific. You'd prefer your support not warding at all to a support who wards? Or do you have some sort of vendetta directed at me? Can't help but notice you keep disparaging my posts in bizarre or simply wrong ways. I miss season 3 too sometimes. I had way too much fun playing LeBlanc building DFG-Void-Oracle with a handful of wards and nothing else. Just sitting in a brush waiting to 100 to 0 anyone who came close. Then taking towers because of the increased death timers. People thought LB was strong in early season 4. Totally untrue, she was way stronger season 3 when mid game picks actually made a big difference. I just don't get, what is problem of having sightstone and bunch of other wards in inventory with upgraded oracle asap instead of having useless trinket ward which forces you to pink all the time and spend way more money than you do on oracles. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Its simple, make a custom game on Howling Abyss. Pick Swain. Dont skill any skills. Dont buy any items. No Runes, no summoners, no Masteries. Race too 100 CS. Theoretically possible at ~915 to 930, as 101 minions spawn by the 9 minute mark. That said, I am awful and can only do it in like 1045 . | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 31 2015 22:59 obesechicken13 wrote: I'd agree but I can't tell which move you're talking about. His pull/gap closing/hard cc, or his shield ally save mechanic.. Lantern. The pull is good, but approximately as good in Solo as in Competitive. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On January 31 2015 23:27 Sonnington wrote: This is pretty much the reason I never change out my trinket as support. I can have 4 wards out at any given time and I can bait a sweep on my trinket ward. Another thing you have to keep in mind is: your allies can't tell you where someone's placed a ward if they see it happen. I don't agree that wards are overrated. I just got through playing a game where our support placed 12 wards in a 40 minute game. We basically couldn't move away from the tower or we'd run the risk of being flanked and we lost all map control. We eventually won, but we couldn't contest Baron or Dragon and it made the game a lot more frustrating to play. Agreed. Greens are only overrated if people upgrade to T3 yellow and actively use them. Then I could see only buying pinks. But by that point, sweepers are worth getting so Greens become valuable to get anyway. It's all a matter of where your meta sits in the cycle. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On February 01 2015 05:10 iCanada wrote: TL: I challenge you all to the SWAIN CHALLENGE. Its simple, make a custom game on Howling Abyss. Pick Swain. Dont skill any skills. Dont buy any items. No Runes, no summoners, no Masteries. Race too 100 CS. Theoretically possible at ~915 to 930, as 101 minions spawn by the 9 minute mark. That said, I am awful and can only do it in like 1045 . Tyrant Swain allowed? | ||
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kongoline
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