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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 16 2015 17:11 GMT
#241
On January 17 2015 02:06 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 02:01 Gahlo wrote:
So many games. It's going to be difficult as hell to keep up with the 4 regions. Looking at 54-59 games depending on how Korea Bo3s result. That's almost impossible unless it's literally your job to watch pro League. -.-


At this point I think it's best to just pick a region and maybe a team or two you really want to keep up with and use that as your viewing guide. Even then it's a daunting task because you know the other regions have good games on occasion you'll want to watch.

I really wanted to pay attention to China this year because of how woeful the international understanding of it is + tons of good Koreans(Kakao and Rookie, come back plz ;_;) but 24 games a week is so many. More than any 2 of the other regions combined unless Korea goes full Bo3 mode.

I guess I'll wait a couple weeks until the standings settle and then ignore games with solely bottom teams.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
January 16 2015 17:48 GMT
#242
I plan to watch majority of Chinese and European games but for NA and KR I just chose few teams I like (Liquid, Tigers, Najin and Jin Air) and watch only their games. Also probably won't watch anything live and just go for vods to skip pauses.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
January 16 2015 18:22 GMT
#243
Is that talkshow by travis with doublelift, Saint and Crumbz already canceled? the last episode I can find was from before iem san jose.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 16 2015 19:03 GMT
#244
--- Nuked ---
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 16 2015 19:06 GMT
#245
Shes definitely been an accessory to butthole touching in my lane a couple times.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
January 16 2015 19:09 GMT
#246
Something that helps out a lot against an eve jungle is warding her camps - it's the best way to figure out where she is and gets around her out of combat invisibility.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 19:50:39
January 16 2015 19:49 GMT
#247
Really bored, so messed around with the ideas of having Skin variation of champion icons on LiquidLegends.
Would love to have some feedback on how some of these icons look. (FYI, no staff has mentioned or signed off on any of these being a feature of the site, I was just bored on my day off, and thought this would be a cool idea).

Here are some that I quickly did without much thought. Pretty much took the vertical splash art from load screens, and resized them to 25% regardless of splash art, and just cropped the head out.
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Here's a set for Dynasty Ahri, all at different resize levels. Trying to gauge what people prefer in regards to how zoomed in they prefer the crop. As I do some more of these, I'll adjust resize levels for each splash to get the most similar head size results.

From 45%, to 35%, to 30%, to 25%
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading][image loading][image loading]


Poll: Which looks best?

45% (20)
 
83%

35% (4)
 
17%

30% (0)
 
0%

25% (0)
 
0%

24 total votes

Your vote: Which looks best?

(Vote): 45%
(Vote): 35%
(Vote): 30%
(Vote): 25%



Personally I'm a fan of somewhere around 35% and 30%. For a lot of the skins, the head doesn't change much (especially the face). So I liked the idea of skin variations being zoomed out a bit more versus the current icons we have, so we can see some more of the skin's flavor.
liftlift > tsm
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 16 2015 19:59 GMT
#248
On January 17 2015 04:09 -Frog- wrote:
Something that helps out a lot against an eve jungle is warding her camps - it's the best way to figure out where she is and gets around her out of combat invisibility.

That's true, but then you gotta leave your lane to poke your nose into the enemy jungle.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
January 16 2015 20:35 GMT
#249
On January 16 2015 08:01 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 20:22 739 wrote:
So I have my New Years resolutions that I will only play certain champion pool in S5.

I've decided to go with :

Rumble Top
Pantheon/Lee/Hecarim Jungle
Graves/Jinx ADC
Galio/Leona/Thresh Support
LeBlanc/Azir Mid

And I promised myself I'll only play those champions for the whole season. Wondering after how many games I'll decide to play something else, heh.


I am also going to do this.

Top: Diana (Aatrox backup)
Jungle: Diana (Aatrox backup)
Mid: Diana (Karma backup)
ADC: Ashe
Support: Karma

Focusing on that small champ pool to hopefully climb Elo quickly!

For Diana I have been going RoA -> dcap/zhona -> zhona/dcap -> abyssal -> void with lucidty boots (I run scaling CDR quints and 5% from masteries) somewhere in the mix. I usually grab a seekers or negatron somewhere in between as well as needed.

I am gonna try a super tanky build top lane someday too that starts RoA and has Sunfire/Omen/BVeil/Abyssal/Void/Liandries/Rylais/Zhona? Ionno. Still theorycrafting that one. But I basically wanna hit 40% CDR and don't worry about too much damage if my mid and adc can do the deeeps.


For the life of me I can't settle on a god damn champion. Thinking about Kayle. Maybe Cass. The only thing I'm sure of is Ashe ADC and Karma Support. But I hate bot lane sooo.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
January 16 2015 20:35 GMT
#250
On January 17 2015 04:59 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 04:09 -Frog- wrote:
Something that helps out a lot against an eve jungle is warding her camps - it's the best way to figure out where she is and gets around her out of combat invisibility.

That's true, but then you gotta leave your lane to poke your nose into the enemy jungle.


yep, really need at least 2 people to put down those deep wards. there's some inherent risk but it's also the best way to shut down eve
powered by coffee, driven by hate.
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
January 16 2015 20:37 GMT
#251
On January 17 2015 05:35 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 08:01 JonGalt wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:22 739 wrote:
So I have my New Years resolutions that I will only play certain champion pool in S5.

I've decided to go with :

Rumble Top
Pantheon/Lee/Hecarim Jungle
Graves/Jinx ADC
Galio/Leona/Thresh Support
LeBlanc/Azir Mid

And I promised myself I'll only play those champions for the whole season. Wondering after how many games I'll decide to play something else, heh.


I am also going to do this.

Top: Diana (Aatrox backup)
Jungle: Diana (Aatrox backup)
Mid: Diana (Karma backup)
ADC: Ashe
Support: Karma

Focusing on that small champ pool to hopefully climb Elo quickly!

For Diana I have been going RoA -> dcap/zhona -> zhona/dcap -> abyssal -> void with lucidty boots (I run scaling CDR quints and 5% from masteries) somewhere in the mix. I usually grab a seekers or negatron somewhere in between as well as needed.

I am gonna try a super tanky build top lane someday too that starts RoA and has Sunfire/Omen/BVeil/Abyssal/Void/Liandries/Rylais/Zhona? Ionno. Still theorycrafting that one. But I basically wanna hit 40% CDR and don't worry about too much damage if my mid and adc can do the deeeps.


For the life of me I can't settle on a god damn champion. Thinking about Kayle. Maybe Cass. The only thing I'm sure of is Ashe ADC and Karma Support. But I hate bot lane sooo.


imo ashe can definitely work, but she just lacks a lot of damage compared to something like graves or corki. one of the most solid all around adc champs is caitlyn, if you don't main the role then she is really powerful while not being that difficult.
powered by coffee, driven by hate.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
January 16 2015 20:53 GMT
#252
On January 17 2015 05:37 -Frog- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2015 05:35 JonGalt wrote:
On January 16 2015 08:01 JonGalt wrote:
On January 15 2015 20:22 739 wrote:
So I have my New Years resolutions that I will only play certain champion pool in S5.

I've decided to go with :

Rumble Top
Pantheon/Lee/Hecarim Jungle
Graves/Jinx ADC
Galio/Leona/Thresh Support
LeBlanc/Azir Mid

And I promised myself I'll only play those champions for the whole season. Wondering after how many games I'll decide to play something else, heh.


I am also going to do this.

Top: Diana (Aatrox backup)
Jungle: Diana (Aatrox backup)
Mid: Diana (Karma backup)
ADC: Ashe
Support: Karma

Focusing on that small champ pool to hopefully climb Elo quickly!

For Diana I have been going RoA -> dcap/zhona -> zhona/dcap -> abyssal -> void with lucidty boots (I run scaling CDR quints and 5% from masteries) somewhere in the mix. I usually grab a seekers or negatron somewhere in between as well as needed.

I am gonna try a super tanky build top lane someday too that starts RoA and has Sunfire/Omen/BVeil/Abyssal/Void/Liandries/Rylais/Zhona? Ionno. Still theorycrafting that one. But I basically wanna hit 40% CDR and don't worry about too much damage if my mid and adc can do the deeeps.


For the life of me I can't settle on a god damn champion. Thinking about Kayle. Maybe Cass. The only thing I'm sure of is Ashe ADC and Karma Support. But I hate bot lane sooo.


imo ashe can definitely work, but she just lacks a lot of damage compared to something like graves or corki. one of the most solid all around adc champs is caitlyn, if you don't main the role then she is really powerful while not being that difficult.


Yeah I feel most comfortable with Ashe. I might actually be undefeated with her haha. THERE ARE TOO MANY FUN CHAMPIONS TO PLAY. Oh well. Just keeping track of who I enjoy playing the most.

When season 5 officially begins (placement matches) I will pick a small pool and stick with it no matter what. I just gotta fuck around with different champs before then.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 22:02:57
January 16 2015 21:02 GMT
#253
Ashe is a fantastic ADC and she does plenty of damage.

User was warned for this post
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 16 2015 21:16 GMT
#254
> Ashe
> Fun to play

Sick city.
Even more fun than Maokai.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
January 16 2015 21:16 GMT
#255
On January 17 2015 06:02 Sufficiency wrote:
Ashe is a fantastic ADC and she does plenty of damage.


i'll reiterate that she is 100% viable, but she doesn't do plenty of damage. if you compare the base damage and scaling on her abilities to graves:

ashe: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Ashe

graves:http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Graves

you can't really compare them, graves has much higher burst than ashe. on top of that ashe doesn't have any steroids, so not only does graves have more burst but he has more sustained damage as well thanks to his E.

i'd say ashe is in the bottom tier of adcs damage wise even if her utility is amazing.
powered by coffee, driven by hate.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-16 21:22:22
January 16 2015 21:18 GMT
#256
On January 17 2015 06:02 Sufficiency wrote:
Ashe is a fantastic ADC and she does plenty of damage.


Let's compare ADCs; I found 16, I might've missed a couple. Ashe has:

-No steroids.
-The lowest AD growth of every single ADC (2.85 vs. 3 - 3.5 for everyone else).
-Base AD of 51.088, which places her at average (rank 7 of 16); field spans 49.04 - 54.208.
-The highest AS growth at 4% (tied with Caitlyn), with the rest of the field going from 1% - 3.38%; the especially low AS growth champions are Jinx (1%), Sivir (1.6%), Corki (2.3%), Tristana (2.5%), KogMaw (2.65%), Draven (2.7%), Ezreal (2.8%), Graves (2.9%). As you'll note, every single one of these beyond Corki has huge attack speed steroids, ranging from 10% - 30% constantly (Kog'Maw) to 30% - 110% temporarily (Tristana) as examples.
-Rank 5 of 16 for base AS at .665, with the field spanning .625 - .679.

With a lack of steroids and below average base stats in aggregate, it is incredibly misleading to say Ashe does "plenty of damage."

If you want to throw skills into the mix, Ashe has a single damaging ability, which is a relatively low CD, physical damage AoE spell with good scaling. However, it does not compare to any of the meta ADC's spells. I'm not gonna break down every single ADC's spells, but it is evident that Ashe's spells do elss damage than people like Corki, KogMaw, Ezreal, Draven, Graves, etc. Not to mention, again, the massive steroids that many other ADCs have on their spells to enhance auto-attacks, compared to Ashe's Q which only applies CC.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 16 2015 21:23 GMT
#257
On January 17 2015 06:02 Sufficiency wrote:
Ashe is a fantastic ADC and she does plenty of damage.

in what regards? I mean she's decent pick for people who don't really play ADC's, since she offers a lot of utility, and has fairly smooth attack animation for last hitting in lane, but really she's pretty damn weak.

She gets caught out easily, especially due to mobility creep. Her only strong timing window is IE + Shiv (which btw just got nerfed), and even then it's pretty mediocre compared to other ADC's 2 item timing.
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 16 2015 21:32 GMT
#258
In raw numbers, Ashe has no steroids and very little scaling. But by the virtue of having a lot of slows from her kit she has more opportunities to autoattack. There is plenty of damage in her kit - it's just that most of them are hidden in her kit's utility.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 16 2015 21:36 GMT
#259
for the record Trist is headed to sub 1.5 growth/lvl town if the pbe is to be belived, but I agree with the general point

on that note, in the original Riot news release they said her passive was being nerfed but s@20 has yet to post any numbers has anyone seen them?
Carrilord has arrived.
-Frog-
Profile Joined February 2009
United States514 Posts
January 16 2015 21:47 GMT
#260
On January 17 2015 06:32 Sufficiency wrote:
In raw numbers, Ashe has no steroids and very little scaling. But by the virtue of having a lot of slows from her kit she has more opportunities to autoattack. There is plenty of damage in her kit - it's just that most of them are hidden in her kit's utility.


that utility just isn't that great though. without a dash her slows just aren't very effective.
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