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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 28 2014 23:39 GMT
#1581
On July 29 2014 08:31 IMoperator wrote:
I'm not talking about specific strategies for each team though. I'm talking about in general, scrimming will help waaaaaaaay more than dicking around in solo queue and playing CS:GO will.

Like vayneauthority said, it just comes down to them getting money, not actually caring about being good.

And what exactly stops said guys from scrimming if they stream?Dig/tsm turned off streams and they can easily do it for next 6/7 hours which is enough.

The "just practice more nooblords" is retarded.Not everyone improves from just playing for 10+ hours.If it was that easy everyone would be doing it.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 29 2014 00:00 GMT
#1582
For whoever was asking about top Maokai, Saint's playing it right now vs Rhux's Gragas and doing pretty well.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 29 2014 00:00 GMT
#1583
On July 29 2014 08:39 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 07:16 Kinie wrote:
CLG's already gone on record saying they know that something's not working right, we don't know what, but we are still trying to identify it and fix it. Spending an extra day to fix something that you can't even identify as a problem in the first place isn't going to help you fix it.

Dig's problem is probably just a lack of adaptation to the meta and Crumbz being one of the weakest junglers in NA LCS at the moment.


Man the lengths some people go to to avoid saying "qtpie is not good, and qtpie + kiwi is just abhorrent".

Oh, and I maintain that they should be working out on free days, and doing funny shit. For instance, they could make a video called "scarra and QTPIE race", then shave the head of the loser.


I don't normally watch Dig games, but QTpie and Kiwikid are weak too. The reason why people aren't shitting on them as much as Crumbz is they have personalities (at least QT does) and have shown streaks of being at the very least decent, if not good or top 4 bot lane duo.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 29 2014 00:02 GMT
#1584
On July 29 2014 08:39 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 08:31 IMoperator wrote:
I'm not talking about specific strategies for each team though. I'm talking about in general, scrimming will help waaaaaaaay more than dicking around in solo queue and playing CS:GO will.

Like vayneauthority said, it just comes down to them getting money, not actually caring about being good.

And what exactly stops said guys from scrimming if they stream?Dig/tsm turned off streams and they can easily do it for next 6/7 hours which is enough.

The "just practice more nooblords" is retarded.Not everyone improves from just playing for 10+ hours.If it was that easy everyone would be doing it.

how do you get better at something, ANYTHING? you practice. Practicing more = getting better. It's really simple.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5069 Posts
July 29 2014 00:07 GMT
#1585
Crumbz being the weakest jungler right now has everything to do with Dig's main and only strategy they have. It's been figured out and they can't do anything else so that's why they're getting dismantled like this every single game now.
In the beginning of the split when the team was still "quite fresh" they were stomping because they found some kind of jive that could just win them games straight up, but now that every other team has seen what a one trick pony Zion and Shiphtur are, Crumbz can't really do much with that to be honest. Kiwi & Qt not performing is definitely part of the issue though
Taxes are for Terrans
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 29 2014 00:08 GMT
#1586
On July 29 2014 09:02 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 08:39 nafta wrote:
On July 29 2014 08:31 IMoperator wrote:
I'm not talking about specific strategies for each team though. I'm talking about in general, scrimming will help waaaaaaaay more than dicking around in solo queue and playing CS:GO will.

Like vayneauthority said, it just comes down to them getting money, not actually caring about being good.

And what exactly stops said guys from scrimming if they stream?Dig/tsm turned off streams and they can easily do it for next 6/7 hours which is enough.

The "just practice more nooblords" is retarded.Not everyone improves from just playing for 10+ hours.If it was that easy everyone would be doing it.

how do you get better at something, ANYTHING? you practice. Practicing more = getting better. It's really simple.

Everything in moderation.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 29 2014 00:09 GMT
#1587
On July 29 2014 09:02 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 08:39 nafta wrote:
On July 29 2014 08:31 IMoperator wrote:
I'm not talking about specific strategies for each team though. I'm talking about in general, scrimming will help waaaaaaaay more than dicking around in solo queue and playing CS:GO will.

Like vayneauthority said, it just comes down to them getting money, not actually caring about being good.

And what exactly stops said guys from scrimming if they stream?Dig/tsm turned off streams and they can easily do it for next 6/7 hours which is enough.

The "just practice more nooblords" is retarded.Not everyone improves from just playing for 10+ hours.If it was that easy everyone would be doing it.

how do you get better at something, ANYTHING? you practice. Practicing more = getting better. It's really simple.

That isnt true.Just increasing practice time doesnt improve you more.There are a lot of times when taking a break can be more useful.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 29 2014 00:16 GMT
#1588
There comes a point where making out with a pillow in the mirror just isn't going to take you any further and you have to wait for showtime.
Carrilord has arrived.
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
July 29 2014 00:20 GMT
#1589
On July 29 2014 09:16 Slusher wrote:
There comes a point where making out with a pillow in the mirror just isn't going to take you any further and you have to wait for showtime.

haha, nice comparison

I can't believe that Morg isn't getting nerfed in the upcoming patch T_T
Does anyone know why Seraph gets DFG on top elise?
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 29 2014 00:23 GMT
#1590
On July 29 2014 09:20 Steins;Gate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 09:16 Slusher wrote:
There comes a point where making out with a pillow in the mirror just isn't going to take you any further and you have to wait for showtime.

haha, nice comparison

I can't believe that Morg isn't getting nerfed in the upcoming patch T_T
Does anyone know why Seraph gets DFG on top elise?

Because Dexter doesn't give him any backup, so he stacks it quickly.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
July 29 2014 00:31 GMT
#1591
On July 29 2014 09:02 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 08:39 nafta wrote:
On July 29 2014 08:31 IMoperator wrote:
I'm not talking about specific strategies for each team though. I'm talking about in general, scrimming will help waaaaaaaay more than dicking around in solo queue and playing CS:GO will.

Like vayneauthority said, it just comes down to them getting money, not actually caring about being good.

And what exactly stops said guys from scrimming if they stream?Dig/tsm turned off streams and they can easily do it for next 6/7 hours which is enough.

The "just practice more nooblords" is retarded.Not everyone improves from just playing for 10+ hours.If it was that easy everyone would be doing it.

how do you get better at something, ANYTHING? you practice. Practicing more = getting better. It's really simple.

Practice well = get better
Practice more != get better

There is tons of research on this if you really care I'll dig through my bookmarks for the journal articles. If 5Hit isn't still banned maybe he can show off his Clinical Psychology PhD Candidacy skills and drop the bombs on you.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-29 00:36:06
July 29 2014 00:34 GMT
#1592
I just went on the wiki and took a look at Ziggs' mana costs.
Uh.
Yeah.
._.

Also while practicing is part of the issue for NA teams (and probably even more for EU), it's not like you can spend every single day doing 14+ hours playing over and over. And since he was targeting NA players, their super week doesn't start tomorrow like it does for EU, they have 3 more days to practice, and they were playing in LCS just yesterday. I'm not exactly shocked by one day off.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 29 2014 00:36 GMT
#1593
On July 29 2014 09:34 Alaric wrote:
I just went on the wiki and took a look at Ziggs' mana costs.
Uh.
Yeah.
._.

Athene's exists. What am mana?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 29 2014 00:37 GMT
#1594
Even without Grail, I knew he can play without it if he manages carefully, but the ability to spam nilly-willy didn't come from nowhere, since even with grail (and sometimes blue) there are champions running out of mana. But I didn't know his Q starts at only 50 mana, that's absolutely nothing pre-6.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 29 2014 00:39 GMT
#1595
On July 29 2014 09:37 Alaric wrote:
Even without Grail, I knew he can play without it if he manages carefully, but the ability to spam nilly-willy didn't come from nowhere, since even with grail (and sometimes blue) there are champions running out of mana. But I didn't know his Q starts at only 50 mana, that's absolutely nothing pre-6.


lies he needs Grail + Morello + blue CORE according to the Ziggs champion thread......
Carrilord has arrived.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
July 29 2014 00:40 GMT
#1596
On July 29 2014 09:39 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 09:37 Alaric wrote:
Even without Grail, I knew he can play without it if he manages carefully, but the ability to spam nilly-willy didn't come from nowhere, since even with grail (and sometimes blue) there are champions running out of mana. But I didn't know his Q starts at only 50 mana, that's absolutely nothing pre-6.


lies he needs Grail + Morello + blue CORE according to the Ziggs champion thread......


That's if you want to be a literal terrorist and bomb the opponent back to the stone age.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
July 29 2014 00:42 GMT
#1597
On July 29 2014 09:40 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 09:39 Slusher wrote:
On July 29 2014 09:37 Alaric wrote:
Even without Grail, I knew he can play without it if he manages carefully, but the ability to spam nilly-willy didn't come from nowhere, since even with grail (and sometimes blue) there are champions running out of mana. But I didn't know his Q starts at only 50 mana, that's absolutely nothing pre-6.


lies he needs Grail + Morello + blue CORE according to the Ziggs champion thread......


That's if you want to be a literal terrorist and bomb the opponent back to the stone age.

I didn't realize buying items in a video game gave us access to physical warheads. ^_^
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
July 29 2014 00:50 GMT
#1598
On July 29 2014 09:42 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 09:40 Kinie wrote:
On July 29 2014 09:39 Slusher wrote:
On July 29 2014 09:37 Alaric wrote:
Even without Grail, I knew he can play without it if he manages carefully, but the ability to spam nilly-willy didn't come from nowhere, since even with grail (and sometimes blue) there are champions running out of mana. But I didn't know his Q starts at only 50 mana, that's absolutely nothing pre-6.


lies he needs Grail + Morello + blue CORE according to the Ziggs champion thread......


That's if you want to be a literal terrorist and bomb the opponent back to the stone age.

I didn't realize buying items in a video game gave us access to physical warheads. ^_^

When I was chilling with my friend for the midnight release of WotLK, Gamestop was literally giving them away.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 29 2014 00:52 GMT
#1599
On July 29 2014 09:02 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2014 08:39 nafta wrote:
On July 29 2014 08:31 IMoperator wrote:
I'm not talking about specific strategies for each team though. I'm talking about in general, scrimming will help waaaaaaaay more than dicking around in solo queue and playing CS:GO will.

Like vayneauthority said, it just comes down to them getting money, not actually caring about being good.

And what exactly stops said guys from scrimming if they stream?Dig/tsm turned off streams and they can easily do it for next 6/7 hours which is enough.

The "just practice more nooblords" is retarded.Not everyone improves from just playing for 10+ hours.If it was that easy everyone would be doing it.

how do you get better at something, ANYTHING? you practice. Practicing more = getting better. It's really simple.

I get you have the right intentions but please stop with the sweeping generalizations. Not only is it really annoying to read but it's flat out wrong. As with anything requires a lot of practice, burn out is a real issue and unless you have insight on how NA teams are managed, ease up on the backseat coaching.
There are plenty of reasons why NA teams are behind compared to KR but it's definitely not something "practice more" can simply solve. There are merits as to why LCS teams don't scrim/take it easy on Mondays.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 29 2014 01:01 GMT
#1600
Not to mention that solo queue has merits of its own.

Scrimming is not the only way to practice. It's also been shown in the past that players who never play solo queue and only scrim tend to fall behind fast.
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