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AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 18:10:00
June 27 2014 18:09 GMT
#1641
On June 28 2014 03:03 Sufficiency wrote:
I know dota2's prize pool is over 10 mill, but prize money is not everything to a tournament. A good tournament also depends on the organizer being professional and fair...

*cough* Gambit VISA *cough* Aattox bug *cough* no sound proof booth

Well there weren't any DDOS attacks or players looking at spectator screen at S3 World's so I'd say Riot best esports organizer ever : )
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 27 2014 18:37 GMT
#1642
On June 28 2014 02:17 Kenpark wrote:
Hey guys, so after Kha got retired I had to try some new junglers. Been messing around with Wukong lately. Early and midgame is really fine, In fact I feel stronger than with Kha around levels ~6-13, but late he really seems to fall off to the point that I die without even getting my full duration ult off.
Been going elder--->bruta into tanky, but it seems I´m always behind the curve in terms of tankyness, which ofc makes sense with 2 offensive items...
Is that just the nature of Wukong ? Or maybe go more offensive and GA ? Would love to hear some opinions, cause I rly rly like his early ganking and mid teamfight/skirmish power.


I don't think you need the bruta unless you are fed and rushing black cleaver, tbh.

Favor hp more than raw armour or mr, your Passive gives you fifty of both for free.

I typically go like Lizard -> boots2 -> giant belt item. Then get another tanky item started (glacial / hood / aegis ). If you still need to be tankier, finish that item. If not, get bc to make your ad really happy.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 27 2014 18:58 GMT
#1643
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1787862
Rita discussing voice chat in game, if they add it there will be a literal 126% increase in toxicity due to esports, anti-fun and overwhelming competitive integrity better fine nukeduck.
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
June 27 2014 19:21 GMT
#1644
On June 28 2014 02:55 Frudgey wrote:
Hey I had a random question about Jarvan jungle. Do you guys go spirit of the elder lizard on him or spirit of the ancient golem? I can never decide.

4.10: Always Lizard.
4.11: If you need to be the tank, Golem.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
June 27 2014 20:22 GMT
#1645
On June 28 2014 03:58 Fusilero wrote:
http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1787862
Rita discussing voice chat in game, if they add it there will be a literal 126% increase in toxicity due to esports, anti-fun and overwhelming competitive integrity better fine nukeduck.


if you can still mute then there is practically no difference to what is in place now
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 20:25:19
June 27 2014 20:25 GMT
#1646
Yeah but you're counting on people to do the rational thing, which they won't do. People are toxic *now* with a mute button, voice chat will only make it worse.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 27 2014 20:29 GMT
#1647
I think with DotA people are super annoying the second they get in game. For some reason voice chat is just more toxic than normal chat and it can cause people to tilt almost instantly. You have to be fast to mute.

Curse Voice works because you have to pretty much invite people to join your session. As a host you don't want to get pissed at your allies on voice chat.

That said. I do like voice chat.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
June 27 2014 20:29 GMT
#1648
I haven't had negative experiences with voice yet. Maybe its a small sample size, but i find that talking to people makes things a lot more cordial.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 20:50:04
June 27 2014 20:42 GMT
#1649
On June 28 2014 04:21 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 02:55 Frudgey wrote:
Hey I had a random question about Jarvan jungle. Do you guys go spirit of the elder lizard on him or spirit of the ancient golem? I can never decide.

4.10: Always Lizard.
4.11: If you need to be the tank, Golem.

Can you post the changes to the jungle items? Hopefully the jungle items are getting some combat stats (ancient golem and lizard since the other 2 do get decent amounts of combat stats over time)

AP Sej D1 guy streaming:
http://www.twitch.tv/mister_oink
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
June 27 2014 20:43 GMT
#1650
On June 28 2014 05:29 Goumindong wrote:
I haven't had negative experiences with voice yet. Maybe its a small sample size, but i find that talking to people makes things a lot more cordial.

Have you ever played on XBL? Voice chat there is incredibly toxic. I only don't find it a negative experience because the kids on there are half my age but I'm sure if i was a hormonal teenager like the majority of the League player base it would be incredibly unfun.
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
June 27 2014 20:51 GMT
#1651
On June 28 2014 05:25 phyvo wrote:
Yeah but you're counting on people to do the rational thing, which they won't do. People are toxic *now* with a mute button, voice chat will only make it worse.

Yesterday I play a game where a guy shares the CurseVoice room, 2 other guys joined the room. 10 minutes later into game, they start to chat ingame. Apparently the malphite guy in CV keeps crying and whining about him losing lane and the other guys cannot stand it, so they quit the room. Later on they start blaming each other and throw game.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
June 27 2014 20:55 GMT
#1652
On June 28 2014 05:42 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 04:21 Gahlo wrote:
On June 28 2014 02:55 Frudgey wrote:
Hey I had a random question about Jarvan jungle. Do you guys go spirit of the elder lizard on him or spirit of the ancient golem? I can never decide.

4.10: Always Lizard.
4.11: If you need to be the tank, Golem.

Can you post the changes to the jungle items? Hopefully the jungle items are getting some combat stats (ancient golem and lizard since the other 2 do get decent amounts of combat stats over time)

AP Sej D1 guy streaming:
http://www.twitch.tv/mister_oink

They're in the PBE thread.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 27 2014 21:00 GMT
#1653
On June 28 2014 05:55 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 05:42 obesechicken13 wrote:
On June 28 2014 04:21 Gahlo wrote:
On June 28 2014 02:55 Frudgey wrote:
Hey I had a random question about Jarvan jungle. Do you guys go spirit of the elder lizard on him or spirit of the ancient golem? I can never decide.

4.10: Always Lizard.
4.11: If you need to be the tank, Golem.

Can you post the changes to the jungle items? Hopefully the jungle items are getting some combat stats (ancient golem and lizard since the other 2 do get decent amounts of combat stats over time)

AP Sej D1 guy streaming:
http://www.twitch.tv/mister_oink

They're in the PBE thread.

I don't see the links.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
June 27 2014 21:09 GMT
#1654
I've actually had an opposite experience with voice chat. More people are less toxic over voice because it's more confrontational than text chat I guess. Only the real toxic gods are toxic over voice chat.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 21:47:45
June 27 2014 21:45 GMT
#1655
The other thing about voice is that they cannot police it like chat. With chat they have a log of you calling your jungler a cock mongler and can use tribunal, with voice they just kind of have to trust the reports.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
June 27 2014 21:54 GMT
#1656
On June 28 2014 06:09 RagequitBM wrote:
I've actually had an opposite experience with voice chat. More people are less toxic over voice because it's more confrontational than text chat I guess. Only the real toxic gods are toxic over voice chat.

Honestly, nny anonymous system is going to be toxic. And as you said, voice chat lets toxic gods be really experience-ruining.

In my other hobby, there are some people who are extremely toxic that show up to actual events and then you're like "oh this guy isn't that bad at all, mostly keeps to himself and is super awkward, kind of c u t e b o y s really."

+ Show Spoiler +
pls no FBI
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-27 21:55:08
June 27 2014 21:54 GMT
#1657
On June 28 2014 06:00 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 05:55 Gahlo wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:42 obesechicken13 wrote:
On June 28 2014 04:21 Gahlo wrote:
On June 28 2014 02:55 Frudgey wrote:
Hey I had a random question about Jarvan jungle. Do you guys go spirit of the elder lizard on him or spirit of the ancient golem? I can never decide.

4.10: Always Lizard.
4.11: If you need to be the tank, Golem.

Can you post the changes to the jungle items? Hopefully the jungle items are getting some combat stats (ancient golem and lizard since the other 2 do get decent amounts of combat stats over time)

AP Sej D1 guy streaming:
http://www.twitch.tv/mister_oink

They're in the PBE thread.

I don't see the links.

Try again this time, actually look at the thread.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 27 2014 21:56 GMT
#1658
Good god, Ezreal needs a damage boost, or they need to just make him even more ridiculously safe. I was smashing my last game and was on TF + IE and still couldn't shred through a Garen with Sunfire + Tabis in reasonable amount of time. We won, but I still didn't do crap for damage.
Freeeeeeedom
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21666 Posts
June 27 2014 22:02 GMT
#1659
On June 28 2014 06:56 cLutZ wrote:
Good god, Ezreal needs a damage boost, or they need to just make him even more ridiculously safe. I was smashing my last game and was on TF + IE and still couldn't shred through a Garen with Sunfire + Tabis in reasonable amount of time. We won, but I still didn't do crap for damage.

Isnt that normal for EZ?
He has great mobility and safety but hes not going to break a tank quickly.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
June 27 2014 22:04 GMT
#1660
On June 28 2014 06:54 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2014 06:00 obesechicken13 wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:55 Gahlo wrote:
On June 28 2014 05:42 obesechicken13 wrote:
On June 28 2014 04:21 Gahlo wrote:
On June 28 2014 02:55 Frudgey wrote:
Hey I had a random question about Jarvan jungle. Do you guys go spirit of the elder lizard on him or spirit of the ancient golem? I can never decide.

4.10: Always Lizard.
4.11: If you need to be the tank, Golem.

Can you post the changes to the jungle items? Hopefully the jungle items are getting some combat stats (ancient golem and lizard since the other 2 do get decent amounts of combat stats over time)

AP Sej D1 guy streaming:
http://www.twitch.tv/mister_oink

They're in the PBE thread.

I don't see the links.

Try again this time, actually look at the thread.

Do you mean this one?
On June 25 2014 04:39 Fusilero wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/06/624-pbe-update.html
BR summoner icons, evil ziggs icon, intervention nerfs, nid buffs, more maokai changes and a reduction in ziggs' base MS.


It doesn't show me the stats for the jungle items.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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