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On May 06 2014 01:14 AsnSensation wrote:
Idk why you would assume that fnatic or EU still can't play on 4.5 (or 4.6 but it only had minor changes) when it has been 2 weeks since the playoffs and even if they didn't have the full grasp of it yet back in the playoffs, I'm sure watching a ton of ogn and even C9 has certainly "inspired" them.
because they didn't adapt in previous patches, and the patches before those. for better or for worse, eu is resiliant to meta changes for the most part.
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On May 06 2014 01:22 skykh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 01:19 xes wrote:
Who are they going to scrim against? SK? Roccat?
Please. They are going scrim ocelote team huehue
C9E scrimmed with ocelote's team, C9E also scrimmed with alliance therefore we can conclude that ocelote's team is equal to alliance
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On May 06 2014 01:23 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 01:14 AsnSensation wrote:
Idk why you would assume that fnatic or EU still can't play on 4.5 (or 4.6 but it only had minor changes) when it has been 2 weeks since the playoffs and even if they didn't have the full grasp of it yet back in the playoffs, I'm sure watching a ton of ogn and even C9 has certainly "inspired" them. because they didn't adapt in previous patches, and the patches before those. for better or for worse, eu is resiliant to meta changes for the most part.
lol k :D ognTSM
(btw: saying fnatic doesn't "want it" is kind of a ridiculous statement considering two of their players are fucking french)
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On May 06 2014 01:27 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 01:23 wei2coolman wrote:On May 06 2014 01:14 AsnSensation wrote:
Idk why you would assume that fnatic or EU still can't play on 4.5 (or 4.6 but it only had minor changes) when it has been 2 weeks since the playoffs and even if they didn't have the full grasp of it yet back in the playoffs, I'm sure watching a ton of ogn and even C9 has certainly "inspired" them. because they didn't adapt in previous patches, and the patches before those. for better or for worse, eu is resiliant to meta changes for the most part. lol k :D ognTSM (btw: saying fnatic doesn't "want it" is kind of a ridiculous statement considering two of their players are fucking french)
And one is fucking Belgian and they speak French there right
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There's a reason why TSM draws criticism, they got brutally rekt by C9. Cuz guess what? C9's been playing Korean style meta for the past 2 splits, while TSM's been playing the boring lane style of season 1 for the past 4 years. No one is claiming TSM to be the poster child of adopting korean playstyle. It's pretty apparent throughout LCS that EU teams don't even try to change the way they play.
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I guess I'm somewhere in between all these predictions. On one hand, I like OMG over T1K - I think the slump is real and I just don't believe that China is so far behind that their absolute best cream of the crop team can't pose a challenge to a squad that got eleminated by Frost. On the other, I think this might be the one, last bronze medal for EU before the rise of NA - Fnatic are in a decent shape and so far international competition proved that even if EU teams don't look good on paper, they just constantly win thanks to x-factor or their ctluchness or what not. I think NA will outclass us at Worlds, but I don't see it happening yet.
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This doesn't look like a super pretty writeup. And you call yourself a staff member.
Seriously though, I largely agree with your predictions, but I think a lot of it is hinging on how Fnatic is prepared to play. If they just view it as a showmatch, then they'll get stomped, but if they're salty still about last year's EU showing at All-Stars, they might be pretty competitive.
As a sidenote, I'm sure its beating a dead horse by now, but I really disagree with the way Riot is organizing international play. They're attempting to trump up this All-Stars as an international competition, and that it's a big deal, but that's clearly not really the case.
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Man i didn't know about this site before but really the article and the people who comment the articles are pretty funny hahaha :D
Ok so "C9's been playing Korean style for the past 2 split ... HAHA NOPE ! you're wrong for both split C9 has his own style even if they follow the "META" indeed but only in the 2nd split, 1st split they follow the Korean Meta ? XD really ?
I remember a "carry jungler" taking all the farm to his team and oh yeah that's why they lose coz their all lane were losing to Fnatic :
No gank ? No comeback !
"It's pretty apparent throughout LCS that EU teams don't even try to change the way they play"
About what speak you exactly? Rotations? SK make his rotations also for Fnatic how much team makes it in NA? Ah yes 2 also even if only 1 can do a proper job (C9 ) coz all individual players on NA are weak. I remenber that C9 got out'rotated at IEM too.
I remember this Hype/C9 ; Hate/FNC, i think it was the last Worlds if i remember but that didn't go very well for the NA boys.
It's clear that your article is not partial at all, Hai is not with them but still " C9 is superior to Fnatic" lol, you should probably stop watch Montechristo or not made an article only on your own opinion and felt.
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On May 06 2014 00:37 skykh wrote:
Even in korea send jin air they still wil dumpster c9,fnatic,tpa trash teams.
Do you think Jin Air is better than Ozone in S3 WC?
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Reddit comments have more lomo than cheeps and roffles post history combined.
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On May 06 2014 02:07 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 00:37 skykh wrote:
Even in korea send jin air they still wil dumpster c9,fnatic,tpa trash teams. Do you think Jin Air is better than Ozone in S3 WC?
Jin Air Stealths could totes win everything.
Believe in trace who believes in you
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On May 06 2014 02:07 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 00:37 skykh wrote:
Even in korea send jin air they still wil dumpster c9,fnatic,tpa trash teams. Do you think Jin Air is better than Ozone in S3 WC?
Jin Air put up better fights against KTB than Western teams like Fnatic did
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On May 06 2014 02:00 akioka wrote:
Man i didn't know about this site before but really the article and the people who comment the articles are pretty funny hahaha :D
Ok so "C9's been playing Korean style for the past 2 split ... HAHA NOPE ! you're wrong for both split C9 has his own style even if they follow the "META" indeed but only in the 2nd split, 1st split they follow the Korean Meta ? XD really ?
I remember a "carry jungler" taking all the farm to his team and oh yeah that's why they lose coz their all lane were losing to Fnatic :
No gank ? No comeback !
"It's pretty apparent throughout LCS that EU teams don't even try to change the way they play"
About what speak you exactly? Rotations? SK make his rotations also for Fnatic how much team makes it in NA? Ah yes 2 also even if only 1 can do a proper job (C9 ) coz all individual players on NA are weak. I remenber that C9 got out'rotated at IEM too.
I remember this Hype/C9 ; Hate/FNC, i think it was the last Worlds if i remember but that didn't go very well for the NA boys.
It's clear that your article is not partial at all, Hai is not with them but still " C9 is superior to Fnatic" lol, you should probably stop watch Montechristo or not made an article only on your own opinion and felt.
Farm priority is only part of the c9 style though. The objective control along with map rotations, and cutting off of map movement were heavily korean influenced.
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I disagree.
SKT ? OMG > Fnatic > C9 > TPA
TPA is bad. They were bad at IEM, and are probably bad now. C9 loses to Fnatic all the time even with Hai. Imagine not having a mid player who's core to their team and has great synergy with their key player Meteos.
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On May 06 2014 02:24 Roffles wrote:
I disagree.
SKT ? OMG > Fnatic > C9 > TPA
TPA is bad. They were bad at IEM, and are probably bad now. C9 loses to Fnatic all the time even with Hai. Imagine not having a mid player who's core to their team and has great synergy with their key player Meteos.
yeah, but imagine having a mid player that doesn't randomly lose lane to xpeke.
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On May 06 2014 02:27 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2014 02:24 Roffles wrote:
I disagree.
SKT ? OMG > Fnatic > C9 > TPA
TPA is bad. They were bad at IEM, and are probably bad now. C9 loses to Fnatic all the time even with Hai. Imagine not having a mid player who's core to their team and has great synergy with their key player Meteos. yeah, but imagine having a mid player that doesn't randomly lose lane to xpeke.
It's okay, all the mids at all-stars will wear whit3zz masks, xpeke will have a seizure and fnatic goes 0-4
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It wouldn't be a cheep post without lomo
lomo
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Why would link do better than hai vs xpeke?Bjerg shit on link every game while hai did ok.
I love how cheep didn't mention cyanide in the fnatic tl;dr.
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This isn't 2012, where losing a mid laner and replacing him with someone of similar skill level can still net you wins *cough CLG*. This is 2014, where games are won off single fights, where games are decided based on how well teams communicate map movements so they can grab advantages off global objectives.
1v1 mid doesn't matter. Link won't do that much better or worse than Hai vs international competition. The skill gap between the two isn't that much better. Plus, if anything Hai plays really well in conjunction with Meteos, which is pretty much all that matters nowadays. Losing a mid player is critical. Plus, I don't understand why you completely discount Fnatic when Fnatic has always shown that in the past when it comes to crunchtime in international play, their game steps up many notches, while Cloud 9 has always fared really poorly against them in the past.
If anything, based off recent international play and the roster changes coming for Cloud 9 and TPA, you can expect those two to be battling for last, with Fnatic in the middle of the pack. Stability is key, and they've always been good at international play since Season 1.
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