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Cheep's All-Star's 2014 Thoughts + Predictions - Page 4

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Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
May 05 2014 21:28 GMT
#61
On May 06 2014 03:42 Roffles wrote:
Anyways, my TLDR is that Cheep just hates Euros and is a homer China fanboy.

Pretty much.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
May 05 2014 21:45 GMT
#62
On May 06 2014 06:22 TheYango wrote:
From Riot's perspective, indefinite false hope is better than hopelessness. Even if C9 eventually became better through international experience and NA got better in the long run, in the short and medium term, exposing the hopelessness of NA in international competition has the potential to hurt viewership.


Yeah but people are not blind, there's still worlds every year and next time it could very well be a korean only final, hell maybe there won't even be an european or american team in the semis. Also if Riot wants to protect the NA scene so badly they will need to do something about the other LMQ-like teams who WILL eventually come to America for the easy money. Just look what WCS NA has become l0l.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 05 2014 22:12 GMT
#63
On May 06 2014 06:22 TheYango wrote:
From Riot's perspective, indefinite false hope is better than hopelessness. Even if C9 eventually became better through international experience and NA got better in the long run, in the short and medium term, exposing the hopelessness of NA in international competition has the potential to hurt viewership.

Happy birthday Yango, may your days be filled with Longevity, Optimism, Magnanimity, and Opulence
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 06 2014 00:51 GMT
#64
On May 06 2014 03:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 03:47 Roffles wrote:
On May 06 2014 03:43 Hagen0 wrote:
On May 06 2014 03:10 wei2coolman wrote:
http://www.gosugamers.net/rankings

just found this little nugget of gold.

skt 1k > c9 > omg > tpa > fnatic. huehuehue.

actually that might be possible

Absolutely not. On a good day with Hai playing for Cloud 9, they've never won a meaningful series against Fnatic ever. They've only played a few teams in international play, but they've always gotten dumped on by Fnatic when it mattered most. The teams are still the same, the players are still the same. You wanna say Fnatic has weaker laners? Fnatic outlaned Cloud 9 at IEM just a couple of months ago.

Wasn't the losses against fnatics always 2-1 though? And they did win BotA 2-0.
I think the overall match up for Fnatic vs C9 is 2 Bo3 wins for Fnatic and 1 BO3 loss (which is actually 4 games a piece for each team). I don't think fnatic "dumped" on c9 as hard as you think, history suggests the match up is actually pretty close.



I don't know what the heck he's talking about either on such a small sample size.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 06 2014 01:55 GMT
#65
On May 06 2014 07:12 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 06:22 TheYango wrote:
From Riot's perspective, indefinite false hope is better than hopelessness. Even if C9 eventually became better through international experience and NA got better in the long run, in the short and medium term, exposing the hopelessness of NA in international competition has the potential to hurt viewership.

Happy birthday Yango, may your days be filled with Longevity, Optimism, Magnanimity, and Opulence

I'm pretty sure the optimism is gone already.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 06 2014 02:20 GMT
#66
I would take that "backdoor Sjokz" remark out as it's pretty sexist...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Legitimacy
Profile Joined May 2014
United States35 Posts
May 06 2014 02:21 GMT
#67
@ZERG_RUSSIAN come on it's just a joke! It's everywhere. I just found this on Reddit and though I don't agree with what this guy has to say, it was a fun piece to read. Do you guys often put out stuff like this?
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 06 2014 02:51 GMT
#68
On May 06 2014 03:28 Roffles wrote:
Also, let's get this fucking cleared up. Jack "Regularly watches most of the 5 major leagues" NeoIllusions Ho probably watches a grand total of 0 leagues. Probably just reads like Leaguepedia and asks Yango which teams in China aren't shit.

User was temp banned for this post.


Poor Roffles, questioning the claims of great leader Neoillusions will get you Neoillusions-unapproved and actioned every time.

Anyways Yango, how optimistic are you about the special all-star totally unique meta match? More or less optimistic than you are are about the return of #CTY.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-06 07:35:41
May 06 2014 07:35 GMT
#69
It really depends on which version of SKT shows up. If it's still the faker show that it's been for the last while, they'll probably get beat up by OMG. Faker is still very much top3 mid laners in the world, regardless of how his team has done. I wouldn't expect lulu or leblanc to ever get through bans, and probably kassadin/TF as a permaban as well. That leaves ori ziggs Yasuo and nidalee as the likely carry orientated picks, and soraka and karma possibly showing up in mid as well.

Fnatic is a bit of a wildcard IMO. They can play like the best team in Europe(Western world?) one day, and the next make CoLB look like a good team. I wouldn't expect them to place above 3rd, but any slot between 3-5 is definitely within reach.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
May 06 2014 07:49 GMT
#70
C9 are too young to want anything other than pussy. Unless they can get a strong presence to help them, I doubt you'll see them able to succeed the way people want until they are mid to late twenties. Brain development is one thing you can't fake.

If Riot wants teams to get better, have the winners of quarter seasons go to play offs against each other.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 06 2014 08:40 GMT
#71
NO ROFFLES
j1nzo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany367 Posts
May 06 2014 08:46 GMT
#72
tldr ftw xD
btw lost my will to read, rip^^
♞ rest in peace Madiba ♞
V0ren
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands233 Posts
May 06 2014 11:08 GMT
#73
The reddit comments, lol.

Fnatic has a good chance of ending last, I am pretty sure that even without Hai C9 is better than them at the moment. Only thing that could keep Fnatic from last place is TPA being even worse. It's hard to tell, I never really watch GPL.

Not sure of who will win it. It all depends on how well OMG is able to adept to 4.6, if they can adept well I wouldn't be surprised to see them take first spot.

As for SKT K, even though they are slumping bad, Faker is still the best midlaner out there but I doubt Bengi and Mandu have improved in such a short time. Those two are the weakest link in that line up right now.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 17:22:57
May 08 2014 17:20 GMT
#74
+ Show Spoiler +
Who said C9 wasn't going to beat Fnatic? zzz

Upvote CSheep on reddit imo, fnatic fifth place the dream
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 08 2014 17:30 GMT
#75
I really wanted him to be right, the amount of EU salt in that thread was INSANE. Like, I understand you think he's wrong, but my god people were getting hostile.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-08 17:33:22
May 08 2014 17:33 GMT
#76
Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought

1 CSheep 2: 7
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 08 2014 17:36 GMT
#77
On May 06 2014 02:46 nafta wrote:
Why would link do better than hai vs xpeke?Bjerg shit on link every game while hai did ok.

I love how cheep didn't mention cyanide in the fnatic tl;dr.

cuz i said so.
liftlift > tsm
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 08 2014 17:40 GMT
#78
On May 09 2014 02:36 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 06 2014 02:46 nafta wrote:
Why would link do better than hai vs xpeke?Bjerg shit on link every game while hai did ok.

I love how cheep didn't mention cyanide in the fnatic tl;dr.

cuz i said so.

Let's be real here, Link had a lot of misplays and got carried by Meteos and Balls and the fact the Xpeke would either throw out garbage ults, or he would have a good ult way too late because the rest of his team didn't know what they were doing.

Also, C9 had huge balls and let Shyv split push vs then and just made sure to use Trundle+Elise to force the engage onto Ori
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 08 2014 17:41 GMT
#79
On May 09 2014 02:40 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 02:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 06 2014 02:46 nafta wrote:
Why would link do better than hai vs xpeke?Bjerg shit on link every game while hai did ok.

I love how cheep didn't mention cyanide in the fnatic tl;dr.

cuz i said so.

Let's be real here, Link had a lot of misplays and got carried by Meteos and Balls and the fact the Xpeke would either throw out garbage ults, or he would have a good ult way too late because the rest of his team didn't know what they were doing.

Also, C9 had huge balls and let Shyv split push vs then and just made sure to use Trundle+Elise to force the engage onto Ori

Link played teamfights fine. If he's doing the shotcalling for c9 like meteos suggested, then those calls in those games were pretty solid.
I'm just happy he didn't die like 3 times in lane against xpeke in a 1v1.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#80
On May 09 2014 02:40 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2014 02:36 wei2coolman wrote:
On May 06 2014 02:46 nafta wrote:
Why would link do better than hai vs xpeke?Bjerg shit on link every game while hai did ok.

I love how cheep didn't mention cyanide in the fnatic tl;dr.

cuz i said so.

Let's be real here, Link had a lot of misplays and got carried by Meteos and Balls and the fact the Xpeke would either throw out garbage ults, or he would have a good ult way too late because the rest of his team didn't know what they were doing.

Also, C9 had huge balls and let Shyv split push vs then and just made sure to use Trundle+Elise to force the engage onto Ori

It was far from perfect, but it sure was a win.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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