EPTI was spectating a friend in Bronze 5, and there was a bot lane AD Mundo with a 100% crit rune page who rushed Shiv SotD and was like 20/0 and wrecking their entire team.
It was SO fun to watch.
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I was spectating a friend in Bronze 5, and there was a bot lane AD Mundo with a 100% crit rune page who rushed Shiv SotD and was like 20/0 and wrecking their entire team. It was SO fun to watch. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On March 26 2014 01:01 mr_tolkien wrote: SotD Riven and Alistar are pretty hilarious tbh. They both have crazy AD steroids so the 3 hits kill about any squishy. SOTD on Draven is really entertaining, when you drop spinning axe crits for like 1100 and just lol all the way home | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On March 26 2014 01:04 Ketara wrote: One of the funniest games I ever saw. I was spectating a friend in Bronze 5, and there was a bot lane AD Mundo with a 100% crit rune page who rushed Shiv SotD and was like 20/0 and wrecking their entire team. It was SO fun to watch. See I keep telling you guys that bronze is the most fun bracket to play in. Further proof by Mr Math himself. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 26 2014 01:04 arb wrote: SOTD on Draven is really entertaining, when you drop spinning axe crits for like 1100 and just lol all the way home Problem with Draven is that crit does have a place in his build. So, you waste a lot of potential from SotD. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On March 26 2014 01:07 mr_tolkien wrote: Problem with Draven is that crit does have a place in his build. So, you waste a lot of potential from SotD. I think this is one of the biggest points about why SotD seems (and might actually be) useless in its current state. The active is undoubtedly cool on paper, but 3 autos might not hit (regardless of attack speed) and then you have one minute where 2150 gold is giving you NO stats (because the passive disappears when active is on CD). Even when the passive comes back up, it's still only 45% attack speed and ASpd alone doesn't do much. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
I think I'll start experimenting with Tristana going BT -> SotD. Just got promoted to PlatV finally so shouldn't have to tryhard as much as in Gold I. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 26 2014 01:10 AsmodeusXI wrote: I think this is one of the biggest points about why SotD seems (and might actually be) useless in its current state. The active is undoubtedly cool on paper, but 3 autos might not hit (regardless of attack speed) and then you have one minute where 2150 gold is giving you NO stats (because the passive disappears when active is on CD). Even when the passive comes back up, it's still only 45% attack speed and ASpd alone doesn't do much. Yup. SotD has synergies with AD and penetration. Only a really small subset of heroes can make good use of the 3 crits while building AD and penetration. | ||
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GettingIt
1656 Posts
On March 26 2014 01:13 Alzadar wrote: Yeah it can't be first item. I think I'll start experimenting with Tristana going BT -> SotD. Just got promoted to PlatV finally so shouldn't have to tryhard as much as in Gold I. You could also save experimenting for normals and keep trying your hardest in ranked. I know your teams will appreciate it :D | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On March 26 2014 01:17 GettingIt wrote: You could also save experimenting for normals and keep trying your hardest in ranked. I know your teams will appreciate it :D Confirmed for Not Enough Bravery. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On March 26 2014 01:17 GettingIt wrote: You could also save experimenting for normals and keep trying your hardest in ranked. I know your teams will appreciate it :D 1) You're a bit too much of a tryhard. 2) You won't get better faster with this mindset. Experimenting and failing (as long as you're a fail-fast type of guy) helps improving ! | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 26 2014 01:25 Alzadar wrote: If LCS players are allowed to go BF Sword -> Cutlass -> Zephyr I don't see how anyone can complain when I build a Sword of the Divine. Genja, helping trolls justify being idiots since 2011. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On March 26 2014 01:25 Alzadar wrote: If LCS players are allowed to go BF Sword -> Cutlass -> Zephyr I don't see how anyone can complain when I build a Sword of the Divine. Better got golden croc | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 26 2014 01:06 Zdrastochye wrote: See I keep telling you guys that bronze is the most fun bracket to play in. Further proof by Mr Math himself. Against, not in. You were playing Gold/Plat players. On March 26 2014 01:14 mr_tolkien wrote: Yup. SotD has synergies with AD and penetration. Only a really small subset of heroes can make good use of the 3 crits while building AD and penetration. Hint: they lack range (Sivir, Graves). Lucian... it depends a lot on his passive. If it consumes 2 "charges" then it's actually weaker on him (I assume it's the case since his passive is for all intents and purposes a second attack with reduced damage). Otherwise it'd actually be pretty strong on him. Another thing to note is that the active can act as an aa-reset. Because it isn't too expensive, the item could probably see some use in the midgame, when having BT/SotD and a burst-oriented comp could make even your AD carry an assassin, kinda, to help you burst people hard and thus underline the "make it a 5v4/5v3 in under 3 seconds" aspect and snowball teamfights. The problem, which was discussed a lot at the start of s4 with the "anti-snowball/comeback mechanics" and is still present even though we don't talk about it anymore, is that it's basically not worth it to try and specifically snowball your midgame. Teams good enough to get a lead will snowball it to reach their lategame faster, and banking on the midgame (Haunting Guise, SotD, etc.) isn't worth it because even during that timing window your power doesn't spike high enough to make up for how fast/hard you fall off. It's also not interesting because these items are less slot-effective than big ticket items, which is normal, but they're also less cost-effective, or not more enough to justify the momentum/scaling cost. You'd have to reduce the price of these items or buff them, but Riot won't ever do that because having the tools to snowball isn't "fun", and a basic "they're strong now but if we stall and hold out we'll outscale their itemisation" is too hard for the dumb average GD/reddit dweller. Also it's not "fun" gameplay/counterplay. TL;DR: you'd need Riot to acknowledge the benefits of having various power curves and real drop-offs in the game, good luck with that. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On March 26 2014 02:08 arb wrote: Why do the Koreans get a Ghostblade on Draven? Like whats the benefit? A friend told me it procs 3 times on his Q but im pretty skeptical about that Run fast zoom zoom. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On March 26 2014 02:13 mr_tolkien wrote: Ghostblade is really efficient stats wise, and penetration in particular really increases the damage for AD casters like Draven or Sivir. I never saw Draven as an AD Caster sivir/graves/luci but not Draven, as a majority of his damage comes from his Q which is basically an auto attack on super steroids, it seems like triforce would be better if you can catch axes with all the bloodrush spam still unanswered : Is Lee worth trying to learn with nerfs looming? :< | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On March 26 2014 02:23 arb wrote: I never saw Draven as an AD Caster sivir/graves/luci but not Draven, as a majority of his damage comes from his Q which is basically an auto attack on super steroids, it seems like triforce would be better if you can catch axes with all the bloodrush spam still unanswered : Is Lee worth trying to learn with nerfs looming? :< Well all nerfs that were announced other than the safeguard costing more energy were removed.If you think a champ is fun you should play him that is all there is to it. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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