Lich Bane is such an awkward item. It's like Riot had some subset of champions in mind that SHOULD build Lich Bane and it fits into their kits reasonably well without being oppressive. But there's another, larger subset that just break horribly if they are balanced to be strong without it. Which is really a shame, as there is actually a lot of fairly unique design space in the wants Lichbane category.

Or maybe I just really like TF and Lulu. Especially as an observer.

Edit: I think I would have removed Kassadin's slow before his silence. It screws up his chasing power a little bit, but mostly it takes away his ability to set up the rest of his team, which might make his crappy laning phase a little more meaningful.

phyvo

United States5635 Posts

March 17 2014 22:48 GMT

#74

But he can only blink 5 times before he's forced to go oom, which makes catching up to him easy peasy since your team should have five flashes to match that.

On March 18 2014 07:12 cLutZ wrote:

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No no. You are supposed to predict he will be popular outright, then in 6 months after everyone else is nerfed you quote yourself and gloat.

been there, done that, see mid Lulu XD

Diamond

United States10796 Posts

March 17 2014 22:50 GMT

#75

Watching St's patch preview, talking about Naut mentioned how easy it is to get rid of his W. Forgot you lost the dmg when you lose the shield, nm he still sucks.

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

March 17 2014 22:51 GMT

#76

On March 18 2014 07:36 Diamond wrote:
Trying to go the Reddit route to get awareness of Diana's passive bug, crossing my fingers!

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/20o2e5/dianas_passive_has_had_a_major_bug_since_315_will/

Edit: Nevermind, getting downvoted for some random reason....

That's reddit for ya.

I gave you a free upvote for support though.

Diamond

United States10796 Posts

March 17 2014 22:52 GMT

#77

On March 18 2014 07:51 Sufficiency wrote:

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That's reddit for ya.

I gave you a free upvote for support though.

Thanks! Looks like it's turning now, maybe it was downvote bots or something idk.

Alaric

France45622 Posts

March 17 2014 22:53 GMT

#78

On March 18 2014 05:58 Diamond wrote:
Wonder how Naut does with 21/9/0 masteries and 5% cdr blues in this season? Having Titan's Wrath on a 16 or so sec c/d (with 5% from masteries) might be pretty badass actually.

And I say 21/9/0 because right now like no good jungle champ uses 9/21/0 or 0/21/9 anymore that I can think of.

He still has it available for each camp anyway, the problem is that his level 1 shield will be destroyed very easily even by basic camps and he'll have to finish every monster by hand with tied worst AS in the game and super long animations, while also having tied lowest base MS in the game so moving from camp to camp is long.
As long as Naut won't be able to clear a camp faster than in easily 10s more than most junglers before he gets W level 2, he'll be weak before 4 (unless he levels W at level 3, making his ganks way weaker). His E doesn't really help his clear either because it's awkward to hit targets with more than one wave, and the mana cost takes a toll on Naut's pool.

Only thing the buff changes is that if Naut doesn't get the first blue buff he won't have to wait as long to get his W for each camp at W level 1-2. Hint: it's the last of his worries if he doesn't get it or worse, dies early on.

On March 18 2014 07:06 wei2coolman wrote:

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I dunno about that. But I could see it making double AD more successful and scale better into lategame.

Or a counter for teams only running 1 tank, and using burst champ to deal with it.

Renekton and Jarvan were picked for that at the start of s3, we don't see them now, people won't use Kog's single-target skillshot if they want to make armour shred comps a thing again.

Diamond

United States10796 Posts

March 17 2014 22:55 GMT

#79

Yea I forgot the shield popping means no extra damage. In the words of the TL;DR patch notes guy, "STILL BAD"

mr_tolkien

France8631 Posts

March 17 2014 22:56 GMT

#80

On March 18 2014 07:52 Diamond wrote:

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Thanks! Looks like it's turning now, maybe it was downvote bots or something idk.

Reddit is only accurate on the total score, not the up + downvote. Dunno why, but that's how it works.

You might also have had downvotes for mentioning it as a bug when it is more like a feature.