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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 02 2014 20:06 GMT
#3121
On April 03 2014 04:51 canikizu wrote:
Guys, what's the chance of being last pick 6 games in a row?



0.2^6 = 0.000064
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 20:14:30
April 02 2014 20:10 GMT
#3122
On April 03 2014 04:29 Alaric wrote:
I don't play Maokai anymore, maybe I should pester Diamond for more info and try him again but well... s3 wasn't too kind with him, s4 even less. I did take Q at level 1 when I saw match-ups favourable to level 2 ganks, and either skill W or E at 2 depending on if I wanted to get my second buff or go ruin somebody's day.


He's pretty good. Only thing that sucks is you 100% need the 2nd blue and late blues (6th or so and beyond) no matter how fed you are which other junglers can pass it off if super fed.

He's better in 2v2 scraps than most junglers not named Lee Sin, he does more damage pre-6 than anyone but Lee/isolated target vs Kha'Zix, and does not even need a leash anymore.

Twisted advance is even better these days because no one remembers it chases thru flash, so you will often gank a lane get the kill/assist and pull their summoners. It's such a stupidly strong skill. You can lvl 2 gank with it as you mentioned, but level 2 ganks are so meh now as you for sure lose ur 2nd buff.

His big flaw I see is he sucks ass at ganking mid early vs things like LB, however vs certain picks like Hiemer is one of the best (Twisted Advance > Turret nest).

Honestly I think he's not used because high level players have not tried him with offensive runes/masteries. He's pretty lackluster with S2 runes (which I see everyone run) and 0/21/9 (which I see everyone run). Feel like it's how everyone thought Eve was nerfed out of the game until Diamondprox played her AD/Tank Hybrid. Needs a new perspective, because the old way just sucks now.

If you want to play Maokai I think you need to make sure Lee is banned. He just does the same things you do but better.

It's actually baffling he's not picked with every jungler doing the 1-2 dmg item/3-4 tank/boots now, he does very well with that setup.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 02 2014 20:14 GMT
#3123
From the preview video, I prefer his original voice, also why's he not so hunchback'd anymore? That was a big part of his silhouette imo, gave him that sneazy air and kind of a "scoundrel" look. I don't want a slim Twitch.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 02 2014 20:21 GMT
#3124
Hey man don't make fun of people (or rats) for losing weight, dieting is some hard shit.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 02 2014 20:23 GMT
#3125
He had no feet before. He was probably lighter back then.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
April 02 2014 20:23 GMT
#3126
On April 03 2014 05:14 Alaric wrote:
From the preview video, I prefer his original voice, also why's he not so hunchback'd anymore? That was a big part of his silhouette imo, gave him that sneazy air and kind of a "scoundrel" look. I don't want a slim Twitch.

I kinda dislike that as well. Before opening, I expected them to keep the sort of hunchbacked-pikachu silhouette. Doesn't look like what I expected. I think the model needs to gain about 50lbs.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 02 2014 20:25 GMT
#3127
Yeah if they screwed with Tarics voice I would be pretty upset.

It would be, how do you say, outrageous.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 02 2014 20:26 GMT
#3128
On April 03 2014 05:25 Ketara wrote:
Yeah if they screwed with Tarics voice I would be pretty upset.

It would be, how do you say, outrageous.

Didn't everyone say this about Nasus too? No one mad anymore?
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 20:28:51
April 02 2014 20:27 GMT
#3129
He has also pretty slender legs, I'd have expected shorter to keep with his "tiny little pest" theme.

Diamond, I'm assuming you go MPen (or hybrid)/armour/AP/AP, 21-9-0 (I don't think many can be ran otherwise anyway, 'cept maybe Mundo or Nautilus who get so little from offensive tree), machette+5 -> stone + boots -> wraith spirit -> sunfire/mercs/randuin's/Banshee depending on the flow and compositions?

I used to run R>Q>W>E because it's better mana-wise for clearing and provides better cc, I assume if you gank a bunch you want E max for burst as long as mana allows?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 02 2014 20:28 GMT
#3130
On April 03 2014 05:26 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 05:25 Ketara wrote:
Yeah if they screwed with Tarics voice I would be pretty upset.

It would be, how do you say, outrageous.

Didn't everyone say this about Nasus too? No one mad anymore?


I thought the Nasus voiceover was fine.

I am waaaaaaaaaay more attached to Taric though. He brings me an ancient power.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 02 2014 20:29 GMT
#3131
On April 03 2014 05:26 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 05:25 Ketara wrote:
Yeah if they screwed with Tarics voice I would be pretty upset.

It would be, how do you say, outrageous.

Didn't everyone say this about Nasus too? No one mad anymore?


I think no longer mad != no longer complaining.

I'd also say that Taric's VO importance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other VO importance in LoL.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 02 2014 20:30 GMT
#3132
Tarics voice is worth more than just precious stones.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 20:43:50
April 02 2014 20:30 GMT
#3133
On April 03 2014 05:06 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 04:51 canikizu wrote:
Guys, what's the chance of being last pick 6 games in a row?



0.2^6 = 0.000064


if you only played 6 games ever in your life? then yes.


If you've played 500 games of LOL, then you are actually quite likely to see such streaks. This is not odd or rare*.

http://maxgriffin.net/CalcStreaks.shtml
I think it comes out to something like 2.5 per hundred players in LOL, after 500 games, will see at least 1 such streak.

So, there's a 12.5% chance that of your 500 games played, you will have been the same pick for 6 games in a row.

*given the number of people playing league of legends this does not seem to indicate that their system is flawed, you are just unlucky.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 20:33:29
April 02 2014 20:31 GMT
#3134
On April 03 2014 05:27 Alaric wrote:
He has also pretty slender legs, I'd have expected shorter to keep with his "tiny little pest" theme.

Diamond, I'm assuming you go MPen (or hybrid)/armour/AP/AP, 21-9-0 (I don't think many can be ran otherwise anyway, 'cept maybe Mundo or Nautilus who get so little from offensive tree), machette+5 -> stone + boots -> wraith spirit -> sunfire/mercs/randuin's/Banshee depending on the flow and compositions?

I used to run R>Q>W>E because it's better mana-wise for clearing and provides better cc, I assume if you gank a bunch you want E max for burst as long as mana allows?


21/9/0 and AS/Armor/AP/AP (Oddone's early game special page).

Honestly Naut with 21/9/0 and that page seemed very nice too. I got a medicore leash and didn't have to pop a potion until red buff. But I only played one game with him (went like 6/0/8) so it's hard to pull much from one game.

As for the build here's the general things I go for in no particular order):

Ancient Golem (increased passive, tenacity)
Sorc's
Abyssal (situational)
Liandry's (Q and W both get increased %)
Sunfire
Randuin's
Spirit Visage

I max R>Q>W>E. I sometimes in more farm heavy games will put a 2nd or 3rd point in E, but it's unreliable dmg vs champions, so I never max it early. Q is your reliable damage, and W is too as well as enhancing the root.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 02 2014 20:32 GMT
#3135
On April 03 2014 05:30 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 05:06 Sufficiency wrote:
On April 03 2014 04:51 canikizu wrote:
Guys, what's the chance of being last pick 6 games in a row?



0.2^6 = 0.000064


if you only played 6 games ever in your life? then yes.


If you've played 500 games of LOL, then you are actually quite likely to see such streaks. This is not odd or rare.


Of course. But he asked the wrong question.

Beside, it is not like it was a real question.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
April 02 2014 20:34 GMT
#3136
On April 03 2014 05:26 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 05:25 Ketara wrote:
Yeah if they screwed with Tarics voice I would be pretty upset.

It would be, how do you say, outrageous.

Didn't everyone say this about Nasus too? No one mad anymore?


I am still quite mad about it. Don't really play nasus anymore.

It's just that, well, I don't feel like it's a useful topic to harp on given it's been months and they're not changing it back.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23377 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-02 20:36:49
April 02 2014 20:36 GMT
#3137
nasus voiceover was terrible
made him go from some kind of demi god to like just a typical galactic bad guy
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
April 02 2014 20:40 GMT
#3138
On April 03 2014 05:27 Alaric wrote:
He has also pretty slender legs, I'd have expected shorter to keep with his "tiny little pest" theme.

Diamond, I'm assuming you go MPen (or hybrid)/armour/AP/AP, 21-9-0 (I don't think many can be ran otherwise anyway, 'cept maybe Mundo or Nautilus who get so little from offensive tree), machette+5 -> stone + boots -> wraith spirit -> sunfire/mercs/randuin's/Banshee depending on the flow and compositions?

I used to run R>Q>W>E because it's better mana-wise for clearing and provides better cc, I assume if you gank a bunch you want E max for burst as long as mana allows?

MPen sucks arse in jungle because nothing has MR. You either take Hybrid for more effectiveness later while not having a clear slower than continental drift, or AS to try and get going faster.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
April 02 2014 20:45 GMT
#3139
Yeah the only jungler I run mpen on is Fiddle. That 15% AS is pretty vital for AP junglers imo.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 02 2014 20:54 GMT
#3140
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