EPTOn February 01 2014 09:57 Requizen wrote:
Yo I've been out of the loop for a while wtf is hexakill
Yo I've been out of the loop for a while wtf is hexakill
6 on 6 on summoners rift.
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
6 on 6 on summoners rift. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21686 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On February 01 2014 09:06 iCanada wrote: Does he really do well against them? How does he stop from being shoved right into tower? How does he deal with a good portion of their damage being magic? I've never played the matchup, and I'm godawful at Jax but I'd assume it is kind of rough for Jax. His Mundo matchup is pretty good because he can't stop you from farming, but Shyvana is rough IMO. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 01 2014 10:01 Gorsameth wrote: Because you couldnt bring enough bruisers currently :p I actually think with 6 players bruisers/tanks are weaker (think Twisted Treeline). Another DPS is probably the better choice. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 01 2014 11:21 cLutZ wrote: His Mundo matchup is pretty good because he can't stop you from farming, but Shyvana is rough IMO. I was thinking Shyshy, tbh been AWOL from the game for too long, Mundo wasn';t really a laner last time I played. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On February 01 2014 11:21 cLutZ wrote: His Mundo matchup is pretty good because he can't stop you from farming, but Shyvana is rough IMO. I think jax will be really strong pick after Mundo/Rene nerfs. | ||
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DaBears57
United States300 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 01 2014 12:09 DaBears57 wrote: What are the benchmarks for farming (I.E. XXX CS at 10 mins, XXX CS at 15 mins) and what is a good goal/benchmark for nasus Q farm at various times (10, 20 etc..) around 100 cs for every 10 minutes, with a little less in the first 10 min. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 01 2014 12:09 DaBears57 wrote: What are the benchmarks for farming (I.E. XXX CS at 10 mins, XXX CS at 15 mins) and what is a good goal/benchmark for nasus Q farm at various times (10, 20 etc..) I rarely look at my CS. I feel that it's simply not a good indicator for anything. User was warned for this post | ||
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DaBears57
United States300 Posts
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lega
Canada290 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On February 01 2014 12:43 DaBears57 wrote: Yo, who the fuck beats yasuo 1v1? Any tips/champions? most tanky toplaner can beat him. Renekton can wreck him pretty hard, but those lanes you have totally dominate him, otherwise if he actually gets shiv+ie combo, he fucking absolutely wrecks face. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On February 01 2014 12:36 Sufficiency wrote: I rarely look at my CS. I feel that it's simply not a good indicator for anything. Please rethink this idea. I don't know how you learned to play this game or any type of game such as this without keeping track of your CS. It's such a huge factor, and I'm frankly amazed you didn't get called out for this already. Please. I sincerely beg of you to put more effort into cs, and not dismiss it completely. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 01 2014 12:36 Sufficiency wrote: I rarely look at my CS. I feel that it's simply not a good indicator for anything. User was warned for this post what | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On February 01 2014 12:09 DaBears57 wrote: What are the benchmarks for farming (I.E. XXX CS at 10 mins, XXX CS at 15 mins) and what is a good goal/benchmark for nasus Q farm at various times (10, 20 etc..) A simple benchmark to use is to try and go for about 100 cs per 10 minutes. Depending on how the game goes, you might be spending time duelling, travelling between lanes, etc. but even 80 cs/10 min (assuming you're not in an afk farm lane) is good. If you are in an afk farm lane then you really shouldn't have a reason to not be hitting the ~100cs/min mark. When it comes to Nasus farm, it's really a matter of how much you can afford to get away with without losing lane. In some games, you may need to use Q aggressively and trade with it just to survive and cs so you need to adjust accordingly. I don't play Nasus enough to give you a straight up figure however but with the cd starting at 8 sec and scaling down to 4 sec, getting 1-3 Qs per wave does not seem unreasonable in an afk farm lane. So that's about 20-50% of your cs converted into Q stacks. Adjust accordingly for how farm/fighty the lane is. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On February 01 2014 12:56 ketchup wrote: Please rethink this idea. I don't know how you learned to play this game or any type of game such as this without keeping track of your CS. It's such a huge factor, and I'm frankly amazed you didn't get called out for this already. I actually agree with Sufficiency. It really depends on the game. Some games passive farmfests, and CS is a good guage of gold an how a lane is going. Other games, you could be 30 cs up on your lane opponent but he could be ahead 1.5k gold from roaming. the amount of raw CS you have menas nothiung really, its the amount of gold you have relative to your opponents, and the relative item timings basewd on Character/build/comp etc that mean something. You could out CS your opponent everygame and lose npnp. | ||
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Kyrie
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 01 2014 13:06 iCanada wrote: I actually agree with Sufficiency. It really depends on the game. Some games passive farmfests, and CS is a good guage of gold an how a lane is going. Other games, you could be 30 cs up on your lane opponent but he could be ahead 1.5k gold from roaming. the amount of raw CS you have menas nothiung really, its the amount of gold you have relative to your opponents, and the relative item timings basewd on Character/build/comp etc that mean something. You could out CS your opponent everygame and lose npnp. Ok, but all that means is that CS on its own doesn't necessarily mean everything. If you have 30 CS 10 minutes in, 99% of the time it means you're doing horribly. | ||
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MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On February 01 2014 13:06 iCanada wrote: I actually agree with Sufficiency. It really depends on the game. Some games passive farmfests, and CS is a good guage of gold an how a lane is going. Other games, you could be 30 cs up on your lane opponent but he could be ahead 1.5k gold from roaming. the amount of raw CS you have menas nothiung really, its the amount of gold you have relative to your opponents, and the relative item timings basewd on Character/build/comp etc that mean something. You could out CS your opponent everygame and lose npnp. Regardless of how the game goes, you should have several cs benchmarks in your head. Adjust accordingly as to how the game is going. For example, if you know your opponent is roaming you know the benchmark is perfect cs, and then you have to figure out a way to do better than that. If the lane involves lots of duelling, you adjust downwards instead. But you need that benchmark in your head to begin with to know what you want to compare against. You're thinking too much of "well what if X happened". CS is also a pure mechanical thing. If you have poor cs, regardless of the reason, it means you need to practise your mechanics. Completely disregarding cs as any indication of anything is also incredibly poor. You don't ignore your worker count in Starcraft "oh because maybe it's a proxy rax game" or something. You still have benchmarks you need to be hitting, and you just adjust your expectation depending on how the match is going. But if you're ignoring it completely that's a terrible attitude to have. | ||
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Yezzus
United States2318 Posts
On February 01 2014 12:43 DaBears57 wrote: Yo, who the fuck beats yasuo 1v1? Any tips/champions? i roll him with Darius | ||
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