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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
January 28 2014 07:47 GMT
#2421
from Kleague fb

Reapered and Rapidstar are joining the casting crew for AfreecaTV's Ladies Battle Winter 2014 tournament. About 450 players, and a total of 89 teams applied to play. Only 16 teams remain and they'll be broadcasted starting Feb 3rd.

Some notable teams (names that you might recognize):
MooK Ladies
Klass Ewha (well known university team)
MVP PURE (from MVP)
MVP Ben5 (MVP loves ladies)



any1 gonna restream this?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 28 2014 07:57 GMT
#2422
Teemo is good vs Mundo (if you manage the creep waves well)

He doesn't win vs Trundle per say, but since one of Trundle's strengths is that he doesn't lose lane/ beats top laners then essentially scales based off his opponent's tankiness, Teemo really isn't an optimal matchup for him.

He also beats Riven because her shield is crap vs. DOT, she has no hp5, and you can easily get away from her bouncing and dashing.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 28 2014 08:00 GMT
#2423
On January 28 2014 16:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
Teemo is good vs Mundo (if you manage the creep waves well)

He doesn't win vs Trundle per say, but since one of Trundle's strengths is that he doesn't lose lane/ beats top laners then essentially scales based off his opponent's tankiness, Teemo really isn't an optimal matchup for him.

He also beats Riven because her shield is crap vs. DOT, she has no hp5, and you can easily get away from her bouncing and dashing.

Tbh Mundo loses lane to almost everyone early on. His thing is that you can never fully deny him farm due to cleavers plus post-6 he is literally impossible to push off lane and farms his way into relevance. Then he has an absurd mid-late game.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 08:03:47
January 28 2014 08:03 GMT
#2424
Teemo is fine against Mundo and Trundle. Even against axes and pillars, you can kite both of them fairly well. Just manage the creep wave.

There's no way Riven loses to Teemo. Four gap closers and skill base burst? Sure you dodge a Runic Blade auto but what about the other 3-4 autos? No Riven is going to be in range of Teemo's auto while Valor is down.
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Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
January 28 2014 08:13 GMT
#2425
On January 28 2014 17:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
Teemo is fine against Mundo and Trundle. Even against axes and pillars, you can kite both of them fairly well. Just manage the creep wave.

There's no way Riven loses to Teemo. Four gap closers and skill base burst? Sure you dodge a Runic Blade auto but what about the other 3-4 autos? No Riven is going to be in range of Teemo's auto while Valor is down.


Teemo vs riven is actually a super fun MU for teemo. If you are never closer than 500 range, meaning you only harass her as she moves into cs or is backing away, and you have instantaneous reaction to her gap closers while starting boots and move speed quints you can dodge her entire approach combo. Basically this means that with perfect play the lane will go even and you will outscale her and if she ever wants to stun you she has to all in which makes for awesome bait if your jungler comes top. When I was maining teemo this was the MU that sealed the deal for me even if it can go south super fast.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 28 2014 08:26 GMT
#2426
On January 28 2014 17:00 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 16:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
Teemo is good vs Mundo (if you manage the creep waves well)

He doesn't win vs Trundle per say, but since one of Trundle's strengths is that he doesn't lose lane/ beats top laners then essentially scales based off his opponent's tankiness, Teemo really isn't an optimal matchup for him.

He also beats Riven because her shield is crap vs. DOT, she has no hp5, and you can easily get away from her bouncing and dashing.

Tbh Mundo loses lane to almost everyone early on. His thing is that you can never fully deny him farm due to cleavers plus post-6 he is literally impossible to push off lane and farms his way into relevance. Then he has an absurd mid-late game.


Thing is, Teemo bullies so hard he can get a very quick Morello's vs Mundo.

Also, I'm not 100% sold on the tankiness of Mundo after some of the things we saw in LCS, like I get BurgerKing was fed, but his LB literally 100-0'd a 4 item Mundo.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 08:46:54
January 28 2014 08:45 GMT
#2427
Iunno... with Dshield plus defensive tree masteries I highly doubt Teemo can push Mundo out of lane. Thing is, Mundo can just cede lane control for the first few levels and just farm with cleavers. Once he gets ult you really can't push him out of lane even with Morello's since Morellos doesn't kick in until the enemy is under 40% hp. On top of that, Morello's doesn't proc off of Teemo's passive. It's not a lane Teemo loses, but Mundo can turn it into a farm lane.

With S4 changes, it's honestly very hard to bully someone out of lane with just autos.
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
January 28 2014 09:36 GMT
#2428
the 1v1 map actually completely changed my view on teemo vs riven. i used to think if you could jsut get her low enough, you could bully the wave and just deny her from cs and scaling.

this may sound like a broken record at this point, but if you start 8 ad 32 armor and 18-12 masteries, then proceed to max E, you don't even need to kite riven. if she engages into your minions, you just straight up out trade her at all points in the game. take barrier instead of ignite and she doesn't 1 combo you at 6 either. lane win for teemo.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 28 2014 11:44 GMT
#2429
On January 28 2014 17:45 Ryuu314 wrote:
Iunno... with Dshield plus defensive tree masteries I highly doubt Teemo can push Mundo out of lane. Thing is, Mundo can just cede lane control for the first few levels and just farm with cleavers. Once he gets ult you really can't push him out of lane even with Morello's since Morellos doesn't kick in until the enemy is under 40% hp. On top of that, Morello's doesn't proc off of Teemo's passive. It's not a lane Teemo loses, but Mundo can turn it into a farm lane.

With S4 changes, it's honestly very hard to bully someone out of lane with just autos.


Morello+Liandry are really good items for Teemo and they tear the shit out of any HP tank.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 28 2014 12:32 GMT
#2430
With two items in your hands the laning phase is already over.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
January 28 2014 13:10 GMT
#2431
IEM Sao Paulo
http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_lol

JKap and Saint casting atm.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 13:29:43
January 28 2014 13:27 GMT
#2432
On January 28 2014 22:10 Gahlo wrote:
IEM Sao Paulo
http://www.twitch.tv/esltv_lol

JKap and Saint casting atm.

This isurus shyvana and zac seem okay that bot lane though
I rescind my praise of that zac
Glorious SEA doto
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
January 28 2014 13:37 GMT
#2433
Tournament organizers that don't mandate position based team order need to be slapped.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 28 2014 13:43 GMT
#2434
On January 28 2014 17:26 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 17:00 Ryuu314 wrote:
On January 28 2014 16:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
Teemo is good vs Mundo (if you manage the creep waves well)

He doesn't win vs Trundle per say, but since one of Trundle's strengths is that he doesn't lose lane/ beats top laners then essentially scales based off his opponent's tankiness, Teemo really isn't an optimal matchup for him.

He also beats Riven because her shield is crap vs. DOT, she has no hp5, and you can easily get away from her bouncing and dashing.

Tbh Mundo loses lane to almost everyone early on. His thing is that you can never fully deny him farm due to cleavers plus post-6 he is literally impossible to push off lane and farms his way into relevance. Then he has an absurd mid-late game.


Thing is, Teemo bullies so hard he can get a very quick Morello's vs Mundo.

Also, I'm not 100% sold on the tankiness of Mundo after some of the things we saw in LCS, like I get BurgerKing was fed, but his LB literally 100-0'd a 4 item Mundo.


That is like not being sold on the tankiness of Renekton if he dies before he gets to dominus, or nasus and fat guy ult.
Freeeeeeedom
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 14:03:58
January 28 2014 14:02 GMT
#2435
Holy shit it's a volibear.
I'm liking South American league, it's not quite SEA league in my heart but it's great. Now there's a maokai aww yiss
Glorious SEA doto
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
January 28 2014 14:07 GMT
#2436
Is there a IEM LR thread?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 28 2014 14:21 GMT
#2437
On January 28 2014 23:07 UmberBane wrote:
Is there a IEM LR thread?

Afaik no. The grouping from isurus is really interesting, I've seen teams stay grouped for objectives but not to the extent they are
Glorious SEA doto
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
January 28 2014 14:31 GMT
#2438
Saint does not hold any punches with his casting. Doubt he'll ever be hired by Riot with that attitude but I love it
Platinum Support GOD
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
January 28 2014 14:35 GMT
#2439
Just tuned in. Is this the same toplaner who cost PaiN the spot at Worlds back at the wildcard qualifiers? Did he improve?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 28 2014 15:17 GMT
#2440
I heard saint calls people idiots during the cast lol.

Montecristo sometimes will say 'I disgree with player X's decision to do such and such'... but he is respectful and never calls anyone an idiot.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
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