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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 04 2013 04:03 Haiq343 wrote: That has absolutely nothing to do with the point Link was/is making there. it certainly does when the standard is top 5 in the world. c9 has the throwtastic na scene figured out but this does not mean they can be nearly as dominant on an intl stage facing better teams. there's probably 5 teams in ogn that can destroy c9 in laning phase alone. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21629 Posts
On November 04 2013 04:07 oneofthem wrote: it certainly does when the standard is top 5 in the world. c9 has the throwtastic na scene figured out but this does not mean they can be nearly as dominant on an intl stage facing better teams. there's probably 5 teams in ogn that can destroy c9 in laning phase alone. And yet i feel like playing in a season of OGN would also do a ton of c9's game. There is a limit with how good your own game can be depending on the level of opponents you play regularly. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35130 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
people get to hung up on world rank on if something is good, I think this is why people are so divided on how good Xpecial is, if you are like hey this guy is a really good player, I don't think you'd get that much push back, but for some reason people always want to make wild claims like top 5 supports in the world, hell no, and that isn't an insult. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 04 2013 04:48 Slusher wrote: not sure why the standard is top 5??? wtf people get to hung up on world rank on if something is good, I think this is why people are so divided on how good Xpecial is, if you are like hey this guy is a really good player, I don't think you'd get that much push back, but for some reason people always want to make wild claims like top 5 supports in the world, hell no, and that isn't an insult. You're either first or you're in a slump. Learnt that one from SC2. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 04 2013 04:49 oneofthem wrote: cus the discussion started with peke's comment that c9 can be top 5 with better scrim partners. It was soaz, on another note I remember cloudtemplar saying that mineski could be a good team with solid practice some pros do make some big claims on quality of teams lol. His comment was during a mineski match at worlds which went like "Mineski are actually pretty good if they practiced more" | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
honestly the way Korean teams looked at worlds (good but not god mode) I feel like the playing field could be pretty even if the ability to practice with Asian teams at lan speed was available to top NA/EU teams, unfortunately it is not. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
Wei was correct in defending Turtle/Xpecial as a "not to be trifled with in the NA LCS" lane, but crushed his own argument under the weight of top 5 world. look, Huk had good micro, nobody would have made fun of him if he just said, "I got some really good micro skills" but instead he had to lose his mind for a moment. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
korean teams were really underprepared for worlds, had a late patch timing, and they were extensively studied before then. i think on hardware (player talent) and software (coaching, team research etc) conditions, their true level was not properly reflected at worlds, at least during groups | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On November 04 2013 05:43 zer0das wrote: TSM will still suck next season. Idk if I can still be your subordinate after that, General Zer0 | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
They're still douchebags, and now they're also no longer the best talent in NA. Let it go. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On November 04 2013 05:49 Ketara wrote: I don't understand how people can retain their TSM fanboyism. They're still douchebags, and now they're also no longer the best talent in NA. Let it go. That's so troll. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On November 04 2013 05:49 Ketara wrote: I don't understand how people can retain their TSM fanboyism. They're still douchebags, and now they're also no longer the best talent in NA. Let it go. Yeah I wonder why we can't all see the world through the cynical eyes of Ketara Even if you don't like the other four, don't hate on Burger King :x | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 04 2013 05:49 Ketara wrote: I don't understand how people can retain their TSM fanboyism. They're still douchebags, and now they're also no longer the best talent in NA. Let it go. What? Yung bjersen is a god. I'd root for him no matter what team he's on. Now he actually has a botlane that can do stuff, they gunna shit on the NA teams so hard. As far as tsm still sucking compared to world class teams, that'll still happen until dyrus stops feeding 8 kills in first 5 min of game. | ||
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