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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On November 04 2013 01:45 wei2coolman wrote: I I don't need to see s4 change to know faker is still going to be better than regi. yeah because comparing regi to faker is the same as Turtspecial to SneakyNation | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 04 2013 01:56 AsnSensation wrote: yeah because comparing regi to faker is the same as Turtspecial to SneakyNation Turtle xpecial is easily top 5 botlanes in world. Sneaky and lemonation not even world class. They're more comparable to puszu and yellowstar, except not as good. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:02 TheLink wrote: C9 could all be about silver level in laning phase and it just wouldn't matter. As soon as the game hits 15 mins they go kill some shit and win the game. Have we all forgotten C9's dominance already after watching a few weeks of solo-queue? I lol'd. @wei, idk why you're so adamant on talking down on Lemon and Sneaky. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:02 TheLink wrote: C9 could all be about silver level in laning phase and it just wouldn't matter. As soon as the game hits 15 mins they go kill some shit and win the game. Have we all forgotten C9's dominance already after watching a few weeks of solo-queue? Except that only worked vs NA teams so far. Unfortunately we never got to see if C9 could do the same vs anyone else since they lost to fnatic in their only game at Worlds. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:06 Numy wrote: Except that only worked vs NA teams so far. Unfortunately we never got to see if C9 could do the same vs anyone else since they lost to fnatic in their only game at Worlds. Battle of the Atlantic, hoooo. I'm still very disappointed with the Worlds format, esp for a team like C9. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:06 NeoIllusions wrote: I lol'd. @wei, idk why you're so adamant on talking down on Lemon and Sneaky. They're not bad. But after seeing wt and xpecial in worlds, I think it's pretty insulting to say they're even comparable. Puszu is everything sneakycastro is except better. Mechanically poor but makes do. (Btw . Totally had this opinion before dl 2nd grilled interview) I just value clutch playmakers over passive players. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:12 wei2coolman wrote: They're not bad. But after seeing wt and xpecial in worlds, I think it's pretty insulting to say they're even comparable. Puszu is everything sneakycastro is except better. Mechanically poor but makes do. (Btw . Totally had this opinion before dl 2nd grilled interview) I just value clutch playmakers over passive players. Did we watch the same Worlds? What exactly did Turtle and Xpecial do at Worlds that was so special? C9 severely underperformed but TSM's 2-6 group stage performance wasn't that dashing either. I would also take both teams' performance over the course of Spring Split and NA Regionals as a better metric for both teams (and their respective bot lanes). C9's sample size for Worlds is just laughable. | ||
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
On November 04 2013 01:59 wei2coolman wrote: Turtle xpecial is easily top 5 botlanes in world. Sneaky and lemonation not even world class. They're more comparable to puszu and yellowstar, except not as good. Definitely one of the top five bot-lanes at Season 3 World Championship, but I'm not so sure about the world. There were some pretty mean pairings that didn't get to show their stuff at the global stage such as NaMei/Sicca, and Deft/Heart. With the addition of Bjergsen, I feel like TSM could replace XDG Gaming as the strongest team in North America during the laning phase. I really am interested in how this pans out for TSM, because this team is now loaded with top class individual talent, but of course, they have to make something out of this. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:19 NeoIllusions wrote: Did we watch the same Worlds? What exactly did Turtle and Xpecial do at Worlds that was so special? C9 severely underperformed but TSM's 2-6 group stage performance wasn't that dashing either. I would also take both teams' performance over the course of Spring Split and NA Regionals as a better metric for both teams (and their respective bot lanes). C9's sample size for Worlds is just laughable. I think it was whitezz who said it. That wt needed to do 3 times the amount of damage of a regular adc to have a chance to carry tsm. And that he was doing that amount of damage, but rest of tsm too heavy | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:30 wei2coolman wrote: I think it was whitezz who said it. That wt needed to do 3 times the amount of damage of a regular adc to have a chance to carry tsm. And that he was doing that amount of damage, but rest of tsm too heavy Whitezz: Cool is better than faker Ehuehuehueheuheuhehe | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:35 Fusilero wrote: Whitezz: Cool is better than faker Ehuehuehueheuheuhehe Cooler* than faker. Tehehehe. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:30 wei2coolman wrote: I think it was whitezz who said it. That wt needed to do 3 times the amount of damage of a regular adc to have a chance to carry tsm. And that he was doing that amount of damage, but rest of tsm too heavy It was zzitai. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On November 04 2013 00:48 AsmodeusXI wrote: Sweet now I get to be hipster about watching Bjergsen stream. On the other hand, I think I have to cheer for TSM now? ... FUCK YOU GALT. Come on, Asmo. The water's fine~ | ||
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remedium
United States939 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:06 Numy wrote: Except that only worked vs NA teams so far. Unfortunately we never got to see if C9 could do the same vs anyone else since they lost to fnatic in their only game at Worlds. Reminded me of the 2007 World Series. Rockies came into the playoffs red hot, smoked everything in sight. They had a 10 day layoff between NLCS and World Series, and they got stomped because they cooled off while the other team had been playing during that week plus. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On November 04 2013 00:48 AsmodeusXI wrote: Sweet now I get to be hipster about watching Bjergsen stream. On the other hand, I think I have to cheer for TSM now? ... FUCK YOU GALT. Outbaylifed and outsmarted. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On November 04 2013 02:02 TheLink wrote: C9 could all be about silver level in laning phase and it just wouldn't matter. As soon as the game hits 15 mins they go kill some shit and win the game. Have we all forgotten C9's dominance already after watching a few weeks of solo-queue? throw them into ogn and see how they kill everything after 15 minutes | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
On November 04 2013 03:26 oneofthem wrote: throw them into ogn and see how they kill everything after 15 minutes That has absolutely nothing to do with the point Link was/is making there. | ||
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