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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 17:17:58
November 20 2013 17:06 GMT
#4141
nvm
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
November 20 2013 17:09 GMT
#4142
Yay preseason patch! I've been so unmotivated to play the last couple weeks knowing all the changes were coming around the corner.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 20 2013 17:10 GMT
#4143
On November 21 2013 01:16 OhTwoMise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 00:03 Sufficiency wrote:
There is probably no point to watch ADC streams. Most of it is in raw mechanics, not decision making.


I don't know that I want to get into the "mechanics" argument, but even in terms of what a lot of people would consider mechanics, there are a lot of things that are reasonably easy to execute but not immediately obvious. The simplest and one of the first everyone should learn is setting up lasthits under towers. There are a lot more, though. Seeing (and taking) free autos at your mirror, positioning against different kinds of supports, helping your support control a bush, etc etc. Watching someone else do these kinds of things, even just a few times, is often enough to allow you to emulate them.

I also see people throw games as ADC with macro-level decisions on a daily basis. I don't think you can learn most of those things from streams, though.

SaintV probably the best adc to learn from tbh. He teaches you how to play adc'a without mechanics. It's actually stupid how many games he gets away with just by not being retarded post laning phase.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 20 2013 17:10 GMT
#4144
Oh? I've played some more ranked because I won't touch it until shit starts settling down after the patch.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Miiike
Profile Joined July 2010
United States141 Posts
November 20 2013 17:23 GMT
#4145
On November 21 2013 01:43 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2013 21:35 Miiike wrote:
I got an email to set up an interview for Camp CLG -- oh god it's happening.

you payed the 1000 bucks?

First an interview, then they decide whether or not I'm one of the five. then I have to decide if I think it's worth it I guess.
gdoOso.448 | LoL NA: Osogrande | DotA 2: GDO.Oso
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
November 20 2013 17:53 GMT
#4146
On November 21 2013 02:06 JonnyLaw wrote:
I don't think the tear nerfs hurt singed that badly. Taking tenacity off his ult and the nerf to fling dmg are the larger culprits in my opinion. His pre-6 always sucked but against all of the champs in top lane who don't have a resource to manage (hi shyv, riven, renekton) nerfing his early game damage was completely unneeded.

Singed is bull shit to play against if his early game goes well. Riot probably considers it anti-fun.


Yeah, because you pretty much camp his lane to ensure he has a safe pre-6 game, and then leave him alone for the rest of the game. If he gets catalyst without being too far behind, he becomes unstoppable for 99% of champs. Can't shove him out, and he just shoves the wave on you and then farms the wave coming in. If he draws the jungler/enemy mid, then he is already having a huge impact on the game, as that can lead to almost free drags and/or towers.

Can't tell you how many times I pick champs like Wukong with red pot to all-in him early and put him behind, only to BARELY fail to kill him. Then the enemy jungler shows up every other minute to make sure I don't send him back again. Once he hit 6, I couldn't trade with him at all.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 20 2013 18:20 GMT
#4147
Sorry guys I know this is a little off-topic (and I posted already in that thread) but I figured there are some people in here who don't check and I know there was interest in the past.

I'm hosting a LoL-themed Mafia game over on the subforum. It's going to be crazy fun---if you have experience playing here (or elsewhere I suppose) I definitely recommend signing up or at the very least checking it out.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=436086
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
November 20 2013 18:35 GMT
#4148
Did they do anything to Evelynn with the season 4 changes?
Platinum Support GOD
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
November 20 2013 18:43 GMT
#4149
On November 21 2013 03:35 MattBarry wrote:
Did they do anything to Evelynn with the season 4 changes?

Nerfed pinks.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
November 20 2013 18:56 GMT
#4150
On November 21 2013 02:09 Diamond wrote:
Yay preseason patch! I've been so unmotivated to play the last couple weeks knowing all the changes were coming around the corner.


is there patch notes? I can't find any.

am I being dumb? what's happening?
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
November 20 2013 19:00 GMT
#4151
On November 21 2013 03:35 MattBarry wrote:
Did they do anything to Evelynn with the season 4 changes?


They said they were gonna keep an eye on her.

That said, enjoy the freelo while it lasts.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 20 2013 19:00 GMT
#4152
On November 20 2013 18:34 Shikyo wrote:
Funniest thing was when I was running from an Ahri(full hp), and when I was at like 20% hp the Ahri missed a charm... And I went like "oh" and just killed her with a billion aspd and bonus dmg from W during the silence.

I think it's pretty stupid how Kassadin deals more melee dmg than most melee DPS when he's a mobile caster assassin. He has better auto dmg than AD casters, taking away that advantage of those while retaining the advantage of being a magic-based assassin(which of course is dealing magic damage).

They should just remove the bonus mana Kassadin gets from W completely. It's very strong even with just the bonus dmg, and that would force him to do something other than just spam Q on cooldown all day in lane and be all right. Would weaken his laning a lot, which in turn would weaken his later game as well. Another option would be nerfing his lategame without touching his early game with just numbers, but his kit is innately so retarded that either he's always OP until he becomes useless(too weak to pick off any targets anymore).

In my opinion, the best course of action would be to remove or at least halve the mana regen of Kassadin's W, lower the AP ratio on W(so he can still lasthit with it well), and increase the cooldown of E by 1 second(it's always up in teamfights which is one of the main reasons he's so insane in teamfights).


I would kind of do the opposite and make him more W and E centric. Probably would lower the Base Damage and Silence Duration on Q, lower Base Damage on E, then increase the AP ration on W. So his combo actually has to include several autoattacks. Also it would make it so he cant just be TEAR + ROA and do damage, it has to be AA + ROA.
Freeeeeeedom
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 19:17:04
November 20 2013 19:15 GMT
#4153
oopsie daisie too many threads open gg
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
November 20 2013 19:16 GMT
#4154
On November 21 2013 03:56 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 02:09 Diamond wrote:
Yay preseason patch! I've been so unmotivated to play the last couple weeks knowing all the changes were coming around the corner.


is there patch notes? I can't find any.

am I being dumb? what's happening?

Riot has announced maintenance for 3.14. The notation for it leads me to believe it isn't the preseason patch, given how they changed it for S3, but what do I know.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 20 2013 19:17 GMT
#4155
On November 21 2013 03:56 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2013 02:09 Diamond wrote:
Yay preseason patch! I've been so unmotivated to play the last couple weeks knowing all the changes were coming around the corner.


is there patch notes? I can't find any.

am I being dumb? what's happening?

http://forums.euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13999044#post13999044
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 20 2013 19:35 GMT
#4156
New Pie based champ to be released after maintenance
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 20:19:25
November 20 2013 19:39 GMT
#4157
Probably is Popstar Ahri time!

Edit:

Good God, I just read this: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/26494-meddler-on-soraka-and-support-post-incident + finished looking at the support changes. Riot might be right that they are going to successfully balance the game, but they aren't going to make bronze players happier about playing support.
Freeeeeeedom
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
November 20 2013 20:17 GMT
#4158


Does anyone know enough korean to translate what Faker said to EunNaRae? (Looking at you, kpop lovers)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 20 2013 20:46 GMT
#4159
Dang, Frost picked Rammus and I couldn't watch the g- wtf. Now Jin Air Stealths pick Veigar?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-20 20:52:05
November 20 2013 20:51 GMT
#4160
Reapered being all innovative again. Rammus was picked before by CT with Shy on shen for the double taunt.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
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