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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 30 2013 21:08 GMT
#341
On October 31 2013 05:57 FinestHour wrote:
ahri disabled rofl


they accidentally had the "Make this skill do double damage" box checked
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 30 2013 21:15 GMT
#342
I've criticised Sivir a lot. But. I gotta admit. Her W particle is pretty badass when there're a lot of targets.

Still wish her voice was lower, and her ult's active feels underwhelming. I mean, the initial burst is good, but the 20% over the next 6 seconds feels like nothing since boots2 + her passive pretty much puts you at the softcap on MS.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 30 2013 21:38 GMT
#343
After trying out Zed, he really is a shadow of his former self.

...
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
October 30 2013 21:39 GMT
#344
On October 31 2013 06:15 Alaric wrote:
I've criticised Sivir a lot. But. I gotta admit. Her W particle is pretty badass when there're a lot of targets.

Still wish her voice was lower, and her ult's active feels underwhelming. I mean, the initial burst is good, but the 20% over the next 6 seconds feels like nothing since boots2 + her passive pretty much puts you at the softcap on MS.


At the very least she doesn't have her power tied up in an imaginary teamwide attack speed boost that, while it affects potentially 5 champions, only helps her, and maybe a Jax/Irelia (if you even have an AA bruiser on your team).

I still think that if she is going to keep the crappy range on her AA they need to clean up her AA animation to be incredibly fast at lvl 1.
Freeeeeeedom
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 30 2013 21:44 GMT
#345
On October 31 2013 06:38 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
After trying out Zed, he really is a shadow of his former self.

...


Phreak smurf detected.
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Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
October 30 2013 21:44 GMT
#346
On October 31 2013 06:39 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 06:15 Alaric wrote:
I've criticised Sivir a lot. But. I gotta admit. Her W particle is pretty badass when there're a lot of targets.

Still wish her voice was lower, and her ult's active feels underwhelming. I mean, the initial burst is good, but the 20% over the next 6 seconds feels like nothing since boots2 + her passive pretty much puts you at the softcap on MS.


At the very least she doesn't have her power tied up in an imaginary teamwide attack speed boost that, while it affects potentially 5 champions, only helps her, and maybe a Jax/Irelia (if you even have an AA bruiser on your team).

I still think that if she is going to keep the crappy range on her AA they need to clean up her AA animation to be incredibly fast at lvl 1.


Her old ult made her more niche in terms of teamcomps, but you could build some really cool stuff by drafting AS dependent champs and tying it together with a late Sivir pick.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 30 2013 21:45 GMT
#347
On October 31 2013 06:44 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 06:38 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
After trying out Zed, he really is a shadow of his former self.

...


Phreak smurf detected.

I gotta get a job at Riot.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 30 2013 22:12 GMT
#348
Ah normal games where I panic and pick jungle eve and hope for the best..
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Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
October 30 2013 22:13 GMT
#349
The Aatrox nerfs are kinda strange to me. It's like they really didn't like the fact that he is used as a jungler. They nerfed his clear time, dueling and wave clear... Without that he is useless as a jungler, especially with the new jungle camp.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 30 2013 22:20 GMT
#350
i dont know what peoples opinions are here on shit talking pro players, but ive been watching krepos stream a bit recently and he just seems absolutely trash? he plays a ton of blitzcrank and barely ever lands his hooks, hooks at random times with no thought and seriously tries to argue that smart cast isnt faster than normal cast. i havent paid much attention to the EG team but their bot lane seems to be no better than random ladder players :/ am i missing something?
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 22:23:20
October 30 2013 22:21 GMT
#351
Question: does Kassidan mid lane lose to Xin Zhao mid normally? Cause I just got done with a game where he shit on me mid. I just want to know if it's me (asa player) being bad or him (as the player) being good.

I guess I should pre-face this as Kassidan pre-6.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 22:44:07
October 30 2013 22:24 GMT
#352
Y'know, when I look at the cooldown of Shurelya's, Jinx's ult, Graves', Ashe's, Varus'... it really feels like the cooldown is uselessly long, especially at level 1 (a bit less so at level 2 but still). That's 120s for a short burst of speed that won't even let you force the fight because if they run to their tower you're 100% reliant on your support to hold them for you. Even Graves' has a slow, and to get close he's got a dash, not a simple MS buff.
Since you're not too susceptible to grouping early and forcing shit while your ult is level, it feels like it could use being shorter. It didn't feel decisive at all in the few games I've played. Just... you get in aa range. And then you better have enough of your passive to keep up, because their tower is close and you won't have the burst to dive them.

Aatrox has super good (and free) wave clear from level 1 onward top, and a good escape in his Q, plus his passive helps him some more. He's incredibly safe and can push like a retard and force you under tower without batting an eye. In the jungle he can start dblade and still not drop too low, whereas even Lee wishes for a good pull if he wants to maintain high HP. He's king of dives because of his passive, and has a ranged slow and a knock-up on top of burst damage thanks to W. Itemised tanky, he's generally more dangerous than champions like Lee or Vi late game. Having drawbacks isn'ta bad thing.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 30 2013 22:26 GMT
#353
On October 31 2013 07:21 Kinie wrote:
Question: does Kassidan mid lane lose to Xin Zhao mid normally? Cause I just got done with a game where he shit on me mid. I just want to know if it's me (asa player) being bad or him (as the player) being good.

I guess I should pre-face this as Kassidan pre-6.


Yea you should get destroyed.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 30 2013 22:28 GMT
#354
On October 31 2013 07:21 Kinie wrote:
Question: does Kassidan mid lane lose to Xin Zhao mid normally? Cause I just got done with a game where he shit on me mid. I just want to know if it's me (asa player) being bad or him (as the player) being good.

I guess I should pre-face this as Kassidan pre-6.

Without jungle help all you can do is pray he is terrible.Kassadin in general has really big issues vs pretty much all bruisers.
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
October 30 2013 22:30 GMT
#355
On October 31 2013 07:21 Kinie wrote:
Question: does Kassidan mid lane lose to Xin Zhao mid normally? Cause I just got done with a game where he shit on me mid. I just want to know if it's me (asa player) being bad or him (as the player) being good.

I guess I should pre-face this as Kassidan pre-6.


You should get absolutely, completely demolished by Xin lol. Not your fault.
Anything is Possible
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 22:33:14
October 30 2013 22:32 GMT
#356
Kass has a weakness with early gapclose-ad mids specifically; talon panth riven khazix to be specific, never seen Xin vs Kass but I can definitely see xin destroying that easily.

On another note, something that bothers me is how people so easily underestimate Sivir ult. People were calling it trash so readily but pair her up with an olaf/shyv/vi/noc/whatever semi-carry you can think of with her. I think people are dismissing her way too easily, the botlane 3v3's are so heavily favored for the Sivir's team.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 30 2013 22:34 GMT
#357
On October 31 2013 07:32 Dusty wrote:
Kass has a weakness with early gapclose-ad mids specifically; talon panth riven khazix to be specific, never seen Xin vs Kass but I can definitely see xin destroying that easily.

On another note, something that bothers me is how people so easily underestimate Sivir ult. People were calling it trash so readily but pair her up with an olaf/shyv/vi/noc/whatever semi-carry you can think of with her. I think people are dismissing her way too easily, the botlane 3v3's are so heavily favored for the Sivir's team.

Problem is the 2v2 will be behind vs most competent combos so it doesn't matter.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 22:36:11
October 30 2013 22:35 GMT
#358
Ok, was just making sure I wasn't going crazy. Like I'd played with the same Xin Zhao in a game just before the Kassidan one and he was shit, like blindly going Xin even after top, mid, and jungle were called for. Didn't really build tanky or support items and fed constantly to the enemy bot lane.

Post-6 and even with him like 2k gold ahead of me I was still able to kill him in 1v1 under turret when I was 50% hp and he was full.

Though tbh I think the game was a loss anyway, as we had Olaf top vs. Irelia, and Yi jungle vs. Lee jungle.
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
October 30 2013 22:35 GMT
#359
Katarina goes from never picked to kitty kats everywhere.
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
October 30 2013 22:38 GMT
#360
can someone else confirm that sivir is fucking huge now for some reason? pax sivir, at least?
:3
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