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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 14 2013 04:59 GMT
#3221
What about shy in s4 going to be so baller? She's still only going to have 1 major cc in fight. She doesn't scale much harder than other junglers with farm. The only good thing is she farms well, we have no idea how hard camp clears are going to be.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 14 2013 05:06 GMT
#3222
Shy isn't a s4 thing(that is yet to be seen), she is a late s3 solo queue thing because people remembered that she is really good at stealing camps, killing the jungler, skirmishes, and dragons. People can't deal with her without a team that is smart enough to get a numbers advantage.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 14 2013 05:09 GMT
#3223
I still really like Trundle as a jungler, he's incredibly underrated

Anyone?
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smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
November 14 2013 05:22 GMT
#3224
Crazy how easy it is to gain elo now that preseason is in session -_-
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
November 14 2013 05:39 GMT
#3225
On November 14 2013 14:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
I still really like Trundle as a jungler, he's incredibly underrated

Anyone?

I think he's better top lane >.>

Trundle scales incredibly well with farm, which is kinda hard to find in the current S3 jungle. I think he's more of an Olaf-esque type champ than say Aatrox or J4.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
November 14 2013 06:18 GMT
#3226
On November 14 2013 14:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
I still really like Trundle as a jungler, he's incredibly underrated

Anyone?


If every jungler that was played right now didn't have a blink, tundle would be top 5 probably.

Pillar is just completely inferior in terms of engaging a fight when compared to a Vi combo or j4 combo. I could see him being a niche pick against the champions like Shyvana or Zac though, because they both get/build a lot of resists or health. Let them jump in>ult them to shred their stats>let team focus him down.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 14 2013 06:22 GMT
#3227
On November 14 2013 15:18 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 14:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
I still really like Trundle as a jungler, he's incredibly underrated

Anyone?


If every jungler that was played right now didn't have a blink, tundle would be top 5 probably.

Pillar is just completely inferior in terms of engaging a fight when compared to a Vi combo or j4 combo. I could see him being a niche pick against the champions like Shyvana or Zac though, because they both get/build a lot of resists or health. Let them jump in>ult them to shred their stats>let team focus him down.

But then you'd be left with only like 5 junglers anyways. so.....
liftlift > tsm
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
November 14 2013 06:24 GMT
#3228
Maybe then Udyr could actually be a thing again.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 14 2013 06:26 GMT
#3229
On November 14 2013 15:24 Cloud9157 wrote:
Maybe then Udyr could actually be a thing again.

there will no longer ever be the terror that will be known as end of season 1 udyr, and gangplank.
liftlift > tsm
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
November 14 2013 06:42 GMT
#3230
On November 14 2013 15:24 Cloud9157 wrote:
Maybe then Udyr could actually be a thing again.


He is with new Sivir ult.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 07:01:59
November 14 2013 06:58 GMT
#3231
On November 14 2013 14:39 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 14:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
I still really like Trundle as a jungler, he's incredibly underrated

Anyone?

I think he's better top lane >.>

Trundle scales incredibly well with farm, which is kinda hard to find in the current S3 jungle. I think he's more of an Olaf-esque type champ than say Aatrox or J4.

Another problem with Trundle top lane is he has hard counters. GP oranges clears his ult.
Although I guess oranges doesn't block the initial damage of Trundle's ult and that's half the effect.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
November 14 2013 07:03 GMT
#3232
On November 14 2013 15:42 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 15:24 Cloud9157 wrote:
Maybe then Udyr could actually be a thing again.


He is with new Sivir ult.

The teamcomp based entirely around letting Udyr reach his target. Top Jayce, Mid Galio, ADC Sivir, and Support Janna. It's foolproof.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 14 2013 07:18 GMT
#3233
On November 14 2013 15:18 Cloud9157 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 14:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
I still really like Trundle as a jungler, he's incredibly underrated

Anyone?


If every jungler that was played right now didn't have a blink, tundle would be top 5 probably.

Pillar is just completely inferior in terms of engaging a fight when compared to a Vi combo or j4 combo. I could see him being a niche pick against the champions like Shyvana or Zac though, because they both get/build a lot of resists or health. Let them jump in>ult them to shred their stats>let team focus him down.


When I jungled Trundle S3 it was typically a counter pick against tanky initiators. My battle plan was very simple.
  • Rush BotRK.
  • Wait for them to dive in.
  • Cut them off from their team with Pillar.
  • Ult.
  • Win.

It was highly effective. I'd be just as tanky as them because I'd stolen half their tankiness, only I actually also had damage.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
November 14 2013 07:24 GMT
#3234
Mobility is good. Mobility that also provides cc is insane. Junglers without that pale in comparison, especially in a gank centric meta.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 07:35:37
November 14 2013 07:35 GMT
#3235
On November 14 2013 16:24 JazzVortical wrote:
Mobility is good. Mobility that also provides cc is insane. Junglers without that pale in comparison, especially in a gank centric meta.

Sejuani and Naut aren't that popular right now and they have both. Same with Amumu.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
November 14 2013 07:44 GMT
#3236
Mobility is good. Mobility that also provides cc is insane. Mobility that also provides cc and does more damage than tickling you is a valid pick. Junglers without that pale in comparison, especially in a gank centric meta.

Amumu isn't particularly mobile (True, he has bandage, but that's not really much compared to most.).
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
November 14 2013 07:49 GMT
#3237
Shy was played in the NLB on Tuesday, but she lost. couldn't watch the games so I have no idea how she performed.

with an extra camp in s4, I could see shy being a decent pick for her clear speed as long as the other lanes bring some cc - which is extremely easy to do.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 14 2013 07:58 GMT
#3238
On November 14 2013 16:35 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 16:24 JazzVortical wrote:
Mobility is good. Mobility that also provides cc is insane. Junglers without that pale in comparison, especially in a gank centric meta.

Sejuani and Naut aren't that popular right now and they have both. Same with Amumu.

Their clears are pretty shit that's why. If they could farm at lets say the same speed as shyv, they'd be straight up bonkers.
liftlift > tsm
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 07:59:37
November 14 2013 07:58 GMT
#3239
I personally don't know why Sej and naut don't get played more, they fit the bill. Is it their damage compared to the other guys?

Or the above
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
November 14 2013 08:09 GMT
#3240
http://na.lolesports.com/articles/group-stage-announced-entry-promotion-tournament

group stage to determine who plays the bottom 3 LCS teams.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
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