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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 04 2013 23:09 GMT
#1141
As an AD assassin, Pantheon has the undeniable advantage of having a semi-global, which helps with more ganks than one would think
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
October 04 2013 23:23 GMT
#1142
On October 05 2013 08:07 LoCicero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 06:55 Haiq343 wrote:
On October 05 2013 06:50 TheYango wrote:
On October 05 2013 06:22 Nos- wrote:
On October 05 2013 06:12 turdburgler wrote:
On October 05 2013 06:05 KissBlade wrote:
SoulSever, if you actually read GD you'd realize it's nothing like bullying. PX isn't minding his own business and then suddenly forumers are like "LOL PX U SUX". PX actively engages in contrarian arguments or tries to post iconoclast topics. Personally, I take it less hyperbolic as others because I think of them more as theorycrafts about the game but if you make arguments for WW support or Ohmwrecker Kassadin in what is likely one of the more competitive NA forums, you're going to get called out. If anything, you're the one who needs to relax.

On another note, those Royal feels. =( I have to abandon my SKT brethrens this one time. Boxer forgive me =(.



i literally dont even know what ohmwrecker does except "something to do with towers", i guess my theory craft sucks. since i dont know anything about syndra either im just going to start a different conversation and hope people can multi task the responses.

why is pantheon not picked any more? he seems to fit the current aggresive big plays style of a lot of good teams. so many games are decided by making a tower dive really early and then just snowballing the lane and pantheon is a powerful tower diver.

like aatrox is 50+% pick or ban but he doesnt do anything that pantheon cant do. and pantheon has psuedo global pressure.

He can't 2v1, easily ganked, and can't manmode jungle like Aatrox due to the lack of a revive passive. Without being a lane bully panth isn't that good imo

We both know the real answer is "because Lovelin doesn't play Pantheon".

No item pantheon isn't good enough for the church of lovelin.


Aatrox is relevant with little farm, has better jungle clear (more AoE), has a revive passive, and can build tanky and still deal good damage. Panth can't do any of that imo.

If Panth's E did max damage to everything then maaaybe he could be picked as a competitive jungler.

Just my thoughts on it having played some jungle panth.


Since reading the atrioc guide I decided to try him in the jungle myself and the results were underwhelming. What do you typically build and what timings do you use for ganking? I would think earlier the better for top because you can tank towers hits like no one's business and the obvious gank on bot @ 6.
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Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 23:32:02
October 04 2013 23:25 GMT
#1143
Pantheon is the greatest champ (Science!) in LoL. But is item and snowball dependent, neither of which fits all that well currently. And is certainly not in the scope of Lovelin's bligewater ->only gank mantra.

Edit to reduce shitpostiness: I dunno that I would really look for strong item timings out of the jungle as much as finding ways to just ruin the day of the other jungler and then take their lunch money. Sort of nunu-style but more killing before theft instead of theft followed by snowball&flee.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-04 23:33:17
October 04 2013 23:32 GMT
#1144
On October 05 2013 08:25 Haiq343 wrote:
Pantheon is the greatest champ (Science!) in LoL. But is item and snowball dependent, neither of which fits all that well currently. And is certainly not in the scope of Lovelin's bligewater ->only gank mantra.

Edit to reduce shitpostiness: I dunno that I would really look for strong item timings out of the jungle as much as finding ways to just ruin the day of the other jungled and then take their lunch money. Sort of nunu-style but more killing before theft instead of theft followed by snowball&flee.


I would agree with this, however I think people over-estimate Panth's early game and Panth really lacks mobility which is a necessity when invading imo. At early levels he loses 1v1 to a lot of jungle champs and if you're invading with him you're really vulnerable to a collapse by the other team's laners because you have no mobility. People like Lee can get away with invading because they have the mobility to escape via Q onto monsters or ward hopping.

Edit: Obviously I don't disagree that Pantheon is the GOAT.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 04 2013 23:39 GMT
#1145
so what we are all saying is that pantheon support is our new edgy hipster pick
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35153 Posts
October 05 2013 00:11 GMT
#1146
On October 05 2013 08:39 turdburgler wrote:
so what we are all saying is that pantheon support is our new edgy hipster pick

Friend of mine has been running that for over a year.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 05 2013 00:29 GMT
#1147
World finals start in 2.5 hours. HYPE.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35153 Posts
October 05 2013 00:47 GMT
#1148
On October 05 2013 09:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
World finals start in 2.5 hours. HYPE.

I made nachos and purchased copious amounts of soda!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 05 2013 00:58 GMT
#1149
On October 05 2013 09:47 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 09:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
World finals start in 2.5 hours. HYPE.

I made nachos and purchased copious amounts of soda!

I'm on a boat drinking
Freeeeeeedom
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 05 2013 01:10 GMT
#1150
I'm playing mortal kombat with some beer and hoping I don't pass out during games 2/3.
SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
October 05 2013 01:11 GMT
#1151
Also purchased copious amounts of soda but not sure what to snack on
Violet <3 ~~~Better places than here exist
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 05 2013 01:11 GMT
#1152
On October 05 2013 09:58 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 09:47 Gahlo wrote:
On October 05 2013 09:29 obesechicken13 wrote:
World finals start in 2.5 hours. HYPE.

I made nachos and purchased copious amounts of soda!

I'm on a boat drinking

I should buy a boat. I'm getting to a Theatre rented out for the finals!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 05 2013 01:12 GMT
#1153
i didnt know people in gold 1 still went triple dorans blade into bloodthirster on caitlyn he definitely needs botrk after for more sustain
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
October 05 2013 01:15 GMT
#1154
Why do you think I'm saying I got in Plat not because I'm good but because people are terrible?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
October 05 2013 01:21 GMT
#1155
I skip reading GD for a day and now I see all of these shit posts.

I am going to retroactively moderate all posts from page 50 onwards. And I will be handing out bans.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 05 2013 01:28 GMT
#1156
On October 05 2013 10:12 FinestHour wrote:
i didnt know people in gold 1 still went triple dorans blade into bloodthirster on caitlyn he definitely needs botrk after for more sustain


Blame Genja. The dude throws everything out of the window, and then somehow ends up winning games.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 05 2013 01:29 GMT
#1157
On October 05 2013 10:28 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 10:12 FinestHour wrote:
i didnt know people in gold 1 still went triple dorans blade into bloodthirster on caitlyn he definitely needs botrk after for more sustain


Blame Genja. The dude throws everything out of the window, and then somehow ends up winning games.

Well considering this is a team game it's not weird for someone to win while being useless.
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 05 2013 01:30 GMT
#1158
On October 05 2013 10:29 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 10:28 ketchup wrote:
On October 05 2013 10:12 FinestHour wrote:
i didnt know people in gold 1 still went triple dorans blade into bloodthirster on caitlyn he definitely needs botrk after for more sustain


Blame Genja. The dude throws everything out of the window, and then somehow ends up winning games.

Well considering this is a team game it's not weird for someone to win while being useless.


It's a team game, but he does play well at times. He does what he needs to do. I mean that triforce kog'maw carried hard that game.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
October 05 2013 01:36 GMT
#1159
On October 05 2013 10:30 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 10:29 nafta wrote:
On October 05 2013 10:28 ketchup wrote:
On October 05 2013 10:12 FinestHour wrote:
i didnt know people in gold 1 still went triple dorans blade into bloodthirster on caitlyn he definitely needs botrk after for more sustain


Blame Genja. The dude throws everything out of the window, and then somehow ends up winning games.

Well considering this is a team game it's not weird for someone to win while being useless.


It's a team game, but he does play well at times. He does what he needs to do. I mean that triforce kog'maw carried hard that game.

Of course he has his moments.A lot of his stuff are very suboptimal though.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-05 01:42:03
October 05 2013 01:37 GMT
#1160
Wait, this doesn't make sense.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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