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Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 03:45:36
October 25 2013 03:45 GMT
#6601
On October 25 2013 12:41 Requizen wrote:
Is there a concensus on whom the soft counter to Jinx is yet? She just seems kinda good against everyone.

Also Kiss in his Plat promo series, gdlk


IDK about soft counter but jarvan and renek are hardcounters
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 25 2013 03:46 GMT
#6602
Kissblade is in promo series?!

Where is the stream link?!
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 25 2013 03:47 GMT
#6603
On October 25 2013 12:45 Dusty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 12:41 Requizen wrote:
Is there a concensus on whom the soft counter to Jinx is yet? She just seems kinda good against everyone.

Also Kiss in his Plat promo series, gdlk


IDK about soft counter but jarvan and renek are hardcounters

I was more talking about in lane. Yeah, if she doesn't get too far ahead, tanky armor divers are her bane just like any non-dash ADC./
It's your boy Guzma!
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
October 25 2013 03:47 GMT
#6604
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
October 25 2013 03:47 GMT
#6605
On October 25 2013 12:41 Requizen wrote:
Is there a concensus on whom the soft counter to Jinx is yet? She just seems kinda good against everyone.

Also Kiss in his Plat promo series, gdlk


WHO

DO NOT USE WHOM IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO USE WHOM
TranslatorBaa!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 25 2013 03:49 GMT
#6606
On October 25 2013 12:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 12:41 Requizen wrote:
Is there a concensus on whom the soft counter to Jinx is yet? She just seems kinda good against everyone.

Also Kiss in his Plat promo series, gdlk


WHO

DO NOT USE WHOM IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO USE WHOM

Of who are you referring, Cheep?
It's your boy Guzma!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 03:50:29
October 25 2013 03:49 GMT
#6607
On October 25 2013 12:49 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 12:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On October 25 2013 12:41 Requizen wrote:
Is there a concensus on whom the soft counter to Jinx is yet? She just seems kinda good against everyone.

Also Kiss in his Plat promo series, gdlk


WHO

DO NOT USE WHOM IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO USE WHOM

Of who are you referring, Cheep?


its fine if u use who when its supposed to be whom

if u use whom when its supposed to be who u just look stupid

also its to not of you shit grammarian
TranslatorBaa!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 25 2013 03:54 GMT
#6608
On October 25 2013 12:49 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 12:49 Requizen wrote:
On October 25 2013 12:47 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On October 25 2013 12:41 Requizen wrote:
Is there a concensus on whom the soft counter to Jinx is yet? She just seems kinda good against everyone.

Also Kiss in his Plat promo series, gdlk


WHO

DO NOT USE WHOM IF YOU DONT KNOW HOW TO USE WHOM

Of who are you referring, Cheep?


its fine if u use who when its supposed to be whom

if u use whom when its supposed to be who u just look stupid

also its to not of you shit grammarian

Today on English 101 with Cheep

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<3
It's your boy Guzma!
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 25 2013 03:55 GMT
#6609
I feel like beating Jinx in lane is more about picking the correct support and denying her a support that does well vs. your's.
Carrilord has arrived.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 25 2013 03:57 GMT
#6610
On October 25 2013 12:41 Requizen wrote:
Is there a concensus on whom the soft counter to Jinx is yet? She just seems kinda good against everyone.

Also Kiss in his Plat promo series, gdlk

Would just like to venture a little tidbit of Lucian into this.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 04:09:47
October 25 2013 04:05 GMT
#6611
when I play bot lane I support, that said, to beat jinx your goal, in my mind is to get Sona without her getting Leona/Annie/Zyra or to get Leona or Annie if she gets sona and abuse the Sona (don't focuse the Jinx)

granted those are like all the popular supports at the moment so the easiest situation to create is to pick into an already picked Sona, but if you have to pick first take Zyra it doesn't "counter" Jinx, but I'm not sure what beats Jinx/Zyra.

@above, also yes, I've had success with Lucian using this strategy.
Carrilord has arrived.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 25 2013 04:12 GMT
#6612
I don't think it's Jinx being good in lane as opposed to people not knowing how to dodge her ridiculously easy to dodge poke.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 25 2013 04:14 GMT
#6613
I'm not gonna say that Zap is hard to dodge, but it's not as though it's unreasonable for Jinx to be hitting it.

It's got the same windup time as Piltover Peacemaker and travels faster. Caitlyn is expected to hit those in lane repeatedly.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 04:17:47
October 25 2013 04:17 GMT
#6614
On October 25 2013 13:14 Ketara wrote:
I'm not gonna say that Zap is hard to dodge, but it's not as though it's unreasonable for Jinx to be hitting it.

It's got the same windup time as Piltover Peacemaker and travels faster. Caitlyn is expected to hit those in lane repeatedly.


One of them has a line that tells you where it's going and the other doesn't.

I'll be fair and say that when I'm in shitgamer elo, it doesn't really matter, but I have no ms quints/boots and I'm dodging every Jinx thingy if I'm support and then my adc tanks all of them to his face. Iono...I personally think it's really simple to just walk away.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 04:17:37
October 25 2013 04:17 GMT
#6615
It's not that bad, but I'm still getting used to the hitbox. I feel like both Zap and Flame Chompers are a bit difficult to dodge, as Zap's hitbox is wider than the projectile by a bit and Chompers arm almost fucking immediately.

She's not overbearing in lane, but she doesn't have many weaknesses aside from her lack of a dash. She's hard to dive, she tears towers down fast, she can farm easily with either form of Q and pushes rather hard if she wants. Q is just kinda fucking good.

On October 25 2013 13:17 Zergneedsfood wrote:
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On October 25 2013 13:14 Ketara wrote:
I'm not gonna say that Zap is hard to dodge, but it's not as though it's unreasonable for Jinx to be hitting it.

It's got the same windup time as Piltover Peacemaker and travels faster. Caitlyn is expected to hit those in lane repeatedly.


One of them has a line that tells you where it's going and the other doesn't.

Cait literally points in the direction. Still harder, but it's not impossible.
It's your boy Guzma!
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-25 04:18:25
October 25 2013 04:18 GMT
#6616
Isn't Cait's projectile thing also wider?
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 25 2013 04:19 GMT
#6617
it's a lot wider and passes thru minions with a reasonable (read:not Sivir) damage drop.
Carrilord has arrived.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 25 2013 04:20 GMT
#6618
Yeah, Peacemaker is one of the better designed spells imo. I've never felt like it was too weak or too strong in any situation.
It's your boy Guzma!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 25 2013 04:24 GMT
#6619
It's obviously a lot harder to hit Zap because it doesn't travel through minions.

But even so, it's not as though it's unreasonable to expect Jinx to be hitting people with it.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
October 25 2013 04:25 GMT
#6620
On October 25 2013 13:17 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2013 13:14 Ketara wrote:
I'm not gonna say that Zap is hard to dodge, but it's not as though it's unreasonable for Jinx to be hitting it.

It's got the same windup time as Piltover Peacemaker and travels faster. Caitlyn is expected to hit those in lane repeatedly.


One of them has a line that tells you where it's going and the other doesn't.

I'll be fair and say that when I'm in shitgamer elo, it doesn't really matter, but I have no ms quints/boots and I'm dodging every Jinx thingy if I'm support and then my adc tanks all of them to his face. Iono...I personally think it's really simple to just walk away.

It's always easier to dodge skillshots as the support. ADCs have to be timing last hits, harass, dodging harass from the enemy bot duo, be map aware and control the creep wave. Supports have a much easier time of dodging because more of their attention is focused on it.
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