EPT[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 290
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On October 23 2013 05:04 Osmoses wrote: I dont think "optimal" is going to help because its even less possible to prove. What's wrong with "safe" and "strong"? Edit: actually, the tradeoff is "safe", as in stays relevant in most any comp unless you yourself fuck up versus "situational", meaning niche champs like nida and trynd that can completely wreck given the right circumstances versus "weak" which basically fill the same role as another champ but does it less well. Then there's "shit-tier" that only work because the opponents underestimate them and/or don't know how to play against them. Safe and Situational are just two subsets of optimal. A good example would be picking between Orianna and Ahri, or Ahri and Fizz, or Shen and Singed. Viable implies that firstpicking Anivia isn't a terrible idea with Vi and an Assassin still open. Not saying that Anivia couldn't be a situational pick, but that pick is clearly suboptimal. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 23 2013 05:33 JimmiC wrote: Back to galio. My frustration with him is everything that cancels his ult. Whether its a sweet flash in, or a sneaky from behind, or as peel. I feel like there is 1000 abilities that cancle his ult, Some like udyrs bear stance where I feel like most of the time the guy cancled it by accident, Or fidds crow. Or any of the other 1000 things that cancel it. Udyr... *cry* beautiful flash, 5 man ult *thunk* BEARMAN OP SUCK IT GARGOYLE | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On October 23 2013 05:33 cLutZ wrote: Safe and Situational are just two subsets of optimal. A good example would be picking between Orianna and Ahri, or Ahri and Fizz, or Shen and Singed. Viable implies that firstpicking Anivia isn't a terrible idea with Vi and an Assassin still open. Not saying that Anivia couldn't be a situational pick, but that pick is clearly suboptimal. Anivia is clearly situational, that is to say, at some point during some draft she could in theory be the very best pick. Zed is currently "safe" as is Renekton. Galio is weak, because even in soloq his impact is too easily countered. I think these labels are alot clearer, whereas "optimal" is too general a term to describe anything without also adding context. | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On October 23 2013 05:58 Shelke14 wrote: one last update.. WON promos skipped gold 3 in gold 2 YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BUDDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY I'm happy for you, but these little updates really should be in the Loci Thread of Awesome | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 23 2013 05:58 Shelke14 wrote: one last update.. WON promos skipped gold 3 in gold 2 YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BUDDDDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY daaaang son I knew you had it in you. You got like 3 weeks to hit Plat gogogogo | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On October 23 2013 05:59 jcarlsoniv wrote: I'm happy for you, but these little updates really should be in the Loci Thread of Awesome fucking happy people, where do they get off?! we need to hide any happiness in its own thread that no one reads. | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
On October 23 2013 05:59 jcarlsoniv wrote: I'm happy for you, but these little updates really should be in the Loci Thread of Awesome You are right sonvi.. my bad, ill go be happy somewhere else then | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On October 23 2013 06:03 Shelke14 wrote: You are right sonvi.. my bad, ill go be happy somewhere else then lol dat passive aggression | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 23 2013 06:02 turdburgler wrote: fucking happy people, where do they get off?! we need to hide any happiness in its own thread that no one reads. This thread is for arguing semantics and talking about unverfiable theories about the next season. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
On October 23 2013 05:35 jcarlsoniv wrote: Udyr... *cry* beautiful flash, 5 man ult *thunk* BEARMAN OP SUCK IT GARGOYLE Udyr's actually another hero that sees much more play in pubs than in pro I think. that annoying mofo :< | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On October 23 2013 06:08 Requizen wrote: This thread is for arguing semantics and talking about unverfiable theories about the next season. Theories for next season. Take what TLer's think the path is to a better game, reverse it because Morello, and ship it. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 23 2013 06:13 Slayer91 wrote: cause he needs farm Who needs farm when you go BotRK first and rape machine every lane? Until, you know, they pick someone with any amount of knockback/sustained slow and then laugh at you. | ||
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21244 Posts
udyr still great for pubs though cause he's a non-cd reliant, tanky, huge dps machine when he gets ahead | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On October 23 2013 06:17 Amui wrote: Theories for next season. Take what TLer's think the path is to a better game, reverse it because Morello, and ship it. List of Season 4 Changes (According to !TL):
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 23 2013 06:27 Seuss wrote: List of Season 4 Changes (According to !TL):
Actually I would laugh my ass off on that last one. Roaming and tri lanes for 5 minutes while the junglers scamper around trying to be useful. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14049 Posts
On October 23 2013 06:27 Seuss wrote: List of Season 4 Changes (According to !TL):
I thought this was true until the naut part. 5/5 | ||
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