EPTOn October 23 2013 04:34 Shelke14 wrote:
promo series in gold 4 COME ON! one step closer to plat
promo series in gold 4 COME ON! one step closer to plat
I believe in you! Stream it :3
[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 289
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
I believe in you! Stream it :3 | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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On October 23 2013 04:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: there's a difference between saying competitive and saying op Yeah, and no champ that's OP in pubs is not also played at pro level THAT WAS HOW THE WHOLE ARGUMENT STARTED | ||
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Slayer91
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Shelke14
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I would stream it if i could actually! but I dont know how to set it up to best fit my computer.. haha GTX 460 6 gb ram Don't you need a good computer to stream well? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
EDIT: Ok, I think i should clarify. They're the same problems, but I think their relative importance differs between solo queue and competitive. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23438 Posts
i mean his ult is too easy to get out of//stop and his cds are too long on q and e to make up for that if it doesnt go off well | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 23 2013 04:36 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Yeah, and no champ that's OP in pubs is not also played at pro level THAT WAS HOW THE WHOLE ARGUMENT STARTED I mean, yea. I guess, but that doesn't actually say anything meaningful... | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On October 23 2013 04:38 Shelke14 wrote: I would stream it if i could actually! but I dont know how to set it up to best fit my computer.. haha GTX 460 6 gb ram Don't you need a good computer to stream well? You can stream with anything, it'll just look like garbo on a bad computer. If you have Win7, just get OBS and it should be easy to configure it to fit your needs. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On October 23 2013 04:39 wei2coolman wrote: I mean, yea. I guess, but that doesn't actually say anything meaningful... It does when everyone is acting like champs that are OP in pub games are simply unplayable in pro games because it disproves the argument. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On October 23 2013 04:38 Shelke14 wrote: I would stream it if i could actually! but I dont know how to set it up to best fit my computer.. haha GTX 460 6 gb ram More important thing is CPU&upload rate. My computer (and laptop maybe at like 360 or 480) are good enough to stream, but upload kills on the latency front on my home connection due to the poor upload limit | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
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On October 23 2013 04:40 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: It does when everyone is acting like champs that are OP in pub games are simply unplayable in pro games because it disproves the argument. literally no one said that all i said was that solo q is meaningless because you can make anything work so you shouldnt point to solo q success as indicative of anything | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23438 Posts
a strong trend across at least diamond+ levels might indicate something under the radar though all thats saying is low sample sizes are statisically irrelevant and dont use only personal experience to make arguments who knew | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On October 23 2013 04:40 Amui wrote: More important thing is CPU&upload rate. My computer (and laptop maybe at like 360 or 480) are good enough to stream, but upload kills on the latency front on my home connection due to the poor upload limit My understanding for streaming in terms of a good upload you need like 3 - 5 MB upload speed for a decent quality stream, and for what most of the pro level people stream at, you need 7 - 10 MB upload speed. Like I would stream if my upload speed was better, but 15 down/1.5 up is not good enough for streaming at 480, much less 720 or 1080p. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On October 23 2013 04:09 TheYango wrote: You've been given a big list of examples its just that you're treating "situational pick that occasionally suits a particular draft" as being the same thing as "viable in competitive play". Everything is viable in competitive play if you're looking at it that way, it's just that people haven't explored certain champs enough to develop teamcomps that suit them that are comfortable enough to draft when given the opportunity. That Xin an Tryndamere are pickable for certain drafts in competitive play doesn't invalidate the fact that there is a significant disparity in their power in competitive play vs. solo queue play. Can we agree to never use the word "viable" when discussing champion balance. The correct word to focus on is "optimal" | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
What's wrong with "safe" and "strong"? Edit: actually, the tradeoff is "safe", as in stays relevant in most any comp unless you yourself fuck up versus "situational", meaning niche champs like nida and trynd that can completely wreck given the right circumstances versus "weak" which basically fill the same role as another champ but does it less well. Then there's "shit-tier" that only work because the opponents underestimate them and/or don't know how to play against them. | ||
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Kyrie
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Shelke14
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my internet is 27 down and 7 up right now | ||
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UniversalSnip
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On October 23 2013 05:09 Shelke14 wrote: won first game of promos... man my jinx games. 15-1 15-3 22-12 12-5 20-9 my internet is 27 down and 7 up right now What's your point | ||
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Shelke14
Canada6655 Posts
We were discussing streaming and the needs to stream at decent quality with the idea being that you need good CPU along with a good upload rate from your internet | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23438 Posts
On October 23 2013 05:04 Osmoses wrote: I dont think "optimal" is going to help because its even less possible to prove. What's wrong with "safe" and "strong"? Edit: actually, the tradeoff is "safe", as in stays relevant in most any comp unless you yourself fuck up versus "situational", meaning niche champs like nida and trynd that can completely wreck given the right circumstances versus "weak" which basically fill the same role as another champ but does it less well. Then there's "shit-tier" that only work because the opponents underestimate them and/or don't know how to play against them. how about just never discussing champion balance except when it comes to pro play | ||
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