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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-10 07:30:45
August 10 2013 07:28 GMT
#3881
I feel like since talon is melee you should be able to farm against him pre6. You CAN get a silence in the air when he blinksilences you to disrupt his combo, and once you're 6, all bets are off (dont get dunked by his ult, just go be kassadin, go double kill his bot lane a few times or something.)

I'd be a lot more scared of pantheon or other AD casters with longer range.

Oh and for the love of god, put armor runes on all your pages if you're playing kass. Even Morgana will auto harass the hell out of you.
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
August 10 2013 07:36 GMT
#3882
Eh, does the Nid ranged takedown actually still work?
I can't proc takedown on ranged AAs to save my life. I have no trouble whatsoever procing sheen with RQ after a ranged AA, but I just never get the takedown to trigger. It feels like the Takedown icon is up before my AA lands, but to no avail...
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 10 2013 07:39 GMT
#3883
On August 10 2013 16:28 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 15:57 gtrsrs wrote:
guys i think kassadin is the best champ in the game
he's so fkin versatile i can't get over it
no reason to not play kass when he's open


Isn't he like must pick/ban status in Korean solo queue right now?


I know he was in China for a long time. Not sure about korea though.
Jaedong :3
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 10 2013 08:03 GMT
#3884
On August 10 2013 16:39 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 16:28 JazzVortical wrote:
On August 10 2013 15:57 gtrsrs wrote:
guys i think kassadin is the best champ in the game
he's so fkin versatile i can't get over it
no reason to not play kass when he's open


Isn't he like must pick/ban status in Korean solo queue right now?


I know he was in China for a long time. Not sure about korea though.

In korean soloqueue, yeah he's near 100% pickban.

In OGN, he's not seen as much, TF and Ahri see the most play (Ahri mostly as the 'proper response' to TF) and then theres a whole bunch of picks when TF is banned (but TF isn't 100% banned anymore due to Ahri's ability to deal with him.)
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
August 10 2013 08:15 GMT
#3885
On August 10 2013 17:03 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 16:39 ReketSomething wrote:
On August 10 2013 16:28 JazzVortical wrote:
On August 10 2013 15:57 gtrsrs wrote:
guys i think kassadin is the best champ in the game
he's so fkin versatile i can't get over it
no reason to not play kass when he's open


Isn't he like must pick/ban status in Korean solo queue right now?


I know he was in China for a long time. Not sure about korea though.

In korean soloqueue, yeah he's near 100% pickban.

In OGN, he's not seen as much, TF and Ahri see the most play (Ahri mostly as the 'proper response' to TF) and then theres a whole bunch of picks when TF is banned (but TF isn't 100% banned anymore due to Ahri's ability to deal with him.)


Do people 1v2 in Korean soloQ?
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 10 2013 08:17 GMT
#3886
On August 10 2013 16:28 sylverfyre wrote:
I feel like since talon is melee you should be able to farm against him pre6. You CAN get a silence in the air when he blinksilences you to disrupt his combo, and once you're 6, all bets are off (dont get dunked by his ult, just go be kassadin, go double kill his bot lane a few times or something.)

I'd be a lot more scared of pantheon or other AD casters with longer range.

Oh and for the love of god, put armor runes on all your pages if you're playing kass. Even Morgana will auto harass the hell out of you.


talon can literally just walk up and auto attack you out of lane at level 1
so can jayce
panth a little less so but kinda

i just ban talon so i don't have to worry about it
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 10 2013 08:17 GMT
#3887
On August 10 2013 17:15 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 17:03 sylverfyre wrote:
On August 10 2013 16:39 ReketSomething wrote:
On August 10 2013 16:28 JazzVortical wrote:
On August 10 2013 15:57 gtrsrs wrote:
guys i think kassadin is the best champ in the game
he's so fkin versatile i can't get over it
no reason to not play kass when he's open


Isn't he like must pick/ban status in Korean solo queue right now?


I know he was in China for a long time. Not sure about korea though.

In korean soloqueue, yeah he's near 100% pickban.

In OGN, he's not seen as much, TF and Ahri see the most play (Ahri mostly as the 'proper response' to TF) and then theres a whole bunch of picks when TF is banned (but TF isn't 100% banned anymore due to Ahri's ability to deal with him.)


Do people 1v2 in Korean soloQ?

I doubt it. It probably happens as much as it does in western high elo solo q; ie. not that much.
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
August 10 2013 08:27 GMT
#3888
On August 10 2013 17:17 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 16:28 sylverfyre wrote:
I feel like since talon is melee you should be able to farm against him pre6. You CAN get a silence in the air when he blinksilences you to disrupt his combo, and once you're 6, all bets are off (dont get dunked by his ult, just go be kassadin, go double kill his bot lane a few times or something.)

I'd be a lot more scared of pantheon or other AD casters with longer range.

Oh and for the love of god, put armor runes on all your pages if you're playing kass. Even Morgana will auto harass the hell out of you.


talon can literally just walk up and auto attack you out of lane at level 1
so can jayce
panth a little less so but kinda

i just ban talon so i don't have to worry about it

What elo are you? I have literally seen one talon on gold level NA games in the last 100~ games.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 10 2013 08:33 GMT
#3889
i'm gold, and i was the 1 talon you saw, i counterpicked into kass when kass got firstpicked, i went 9-2-10 in 3 minutes and nexus'd at 4
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
August 10 2013 09:19 GMT
#3890
On August 10 2013 17:27 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 17:17 gtrsrs wrote:
On August 10 2013 16:28 sylverfyre wrote:
I feel like since talon is melee you should be able to farm against him pre6. You CAN get a silence in the air when he blinksilences you to disrupt his combo, and once you're 6, all bets are off (dont get dunked by his ult, just go be kassadin, go double kill his bot lane a few times or something.)

I'd be a lot more scared of pantheon or other AD casters with longer range.

Oh and for the love of god, put armor runes on all your pages if you're playing kass. Even Morgana will auto harass the hell out of you.


talon can literally just walk up and auto attack you out of lane at level 1
so can jayce
panth a little less so but kinda

i just ban talon so i don't have to worry about it

What elo are you? I have literally seen one talon on gold level NA games in the last 100~ games.


No reason to pick Talon when Zed exists.
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
August 10 2013 09:43 GMT
#3891
guitar trolling

he takes mid (my main role and indubitably the main role I will play in organized play) just to play kassadin
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
August 10 2013 10:04 GMT
#3892
Guess you should pick up Kassadin then Xil? ^^
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2013 10:09 GMT
#3893
holy shit singed is awesome
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 10 2013 10:16 GMT
#3894
On August 10 2013 19:09 FinestHour wrote:
holy shit singed is awesome

One of Riot's best designed champions imo. I stopped playing him after the proxy craze. ;;
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2013 10:18 GMT
#3895
On August 10 2013 19:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 19:09 FinestHour wrote:
holy shit singed is awesome

One of Riot's best designed champions imo. I stopped playing him after the proxy craze. ;;


my friend told me to watch sirhcez and he just kills people 1v3 running around with ult and ghost and spraying poison all over and trolololo all over the place this is the best
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
August 10 2013 10:18 GMT
#3896
On August 10 2013 19:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 19:09 FinestHour wrote:
holy shit singed is awesome

One of Riot's best designed champions imo. I stopped playing him after the proxy craze. ;;


did you know singed is anagram for design?
TranslatorBaa!
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 10 2013 10:20 GMT
#3897
On August 10 2013 18:19 JazzVortical wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 17:27 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On August 10 2013 17:17 gtrsrs wrote:
On August 10 2013 16:28 sylverfyre wrote:
I feel like since talon is melee you should be able to farm against him pre6. You CAN get a silence in the air when he blinksilences you to disrupt his combo, and once you're 6, all bets are off (dont get dunked by his ult, just go be kassadin, go double kill his bot lane a few times or something.)

I'd be a lot more scared of pantheon or other AD casters with longer range.

Oh and for the love of god, put armor runes on all your pages if you're playing kass. Even Morgana will auto harass the hell out of you.


talon can literally just walk up and auto attack you out of lane at level 1
so can jayce
panth a little less so but kinda

i just ban talon so i don't have to worry about it

What elo are you? I have literally seen one talon on gold level NA games in the last 100~ games.


No reason to pick Talon when Zed exists.

http://www.lolking.net/champions/zed&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics
http://www.lolking.net/champions/talon&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Objectively, Talon is better. I personnaly prefer him because his burst his way faster, and he deals way more AoE damage.
The legend of Darien lives on
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 10 2013 10:24 GMT
#3898
On August 10 2013 19:18 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 19:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 10 2013 19:09 FinestHour wrote:
holy shit singed is awesome

One of Riot's best designed champions imo. I stopped playing him after the proxy craze. ;;


did you know singed is anagram for design?


honestly i didnt until u just said this
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 10 2013 10:26 GMT
#3899
On August 10 2013 19:18 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 19:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
On August 10 2013 19:09 FinestHour wrote:
holy shit singed is awesome

One of Riot's best designed champions imo. I stopped playing him after the proxy craze. ;;


did you know singed is anagram for design?

Trying to be yanger with his knowledge bombs? Good attempt, Cheep.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
August 10 2013 10:36 GMT
#3900
On August 10 2013 19:20 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2013 18:19 JazzVortical wrote:
On August 10 2013 17:27 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
On August 10 2013 17:17 gtrsrs wrote:
On August 10 2013 16:28 sylverfyre wrote:
I feel like since talon is melee you should be able to farm against him pre6. You CAN get a silence in the air when he blinksilences you to disrupt his combo, and once you're 6, all bets are off (dont get dunked by his ult, just go be kassadin, go double kill his bot lane a few times or something.)

I'd be a lot more scared of pantheon or other AD casters with longer range.

Oh and for the love of god, put armor runes on all your pages if you're playing kass. Even Morgana will auto harass the hell out of you.


talon can literally just walk up and auto attack you out of lane at level 1
so can jayce
panth a little less so but kinda

i just ban talon so i don't have to worry about it

What elo are you? I have literally seen one talon on gold level NA games in the last 100~ games.


No reason to pick Talon when Zed exists.

http://www.lolking.net/champions/zed&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics
http://www.lolking.net/champions/talon&region=all&map=sr&queue=1x1#statistics

Objectively, Talon is better. I personnaly prefer him because his burst his way faster, and he deals way more AoE damage.


Why would you look at overall soloq winrate when you compare champs lol?

Talon is too jungler dependant imo.You WILL get camped most likely and if your jungler doesn't cover your ass you can barely farm.
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