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On July 29 2013 03:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
Define modest first-- do you mean like 40 bucks, 60 bucks, 80 bucks or under 200? You could pick up something functional (but not much else) from Ikea for under 40, but for a nice chair you're looking at around 80 minimum I'd say.
I actually really like folding chairs. Right now I'm subletting an empty apartment for the summer, so I'm sitting on a box of school junk I have.
$100 is as far as I could see myself going, but only in a "This chair is slightly more than I want to pay, but it is REALLY nice for the price" fashion.
I wish I could go cheapo cheapo mode, but health issues make it a waste of money currently.
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Haha Saint and Double duoing and talking about their LCS match.
Edit: LOL DL not helping Saint on his 1st pull when he went Dorans hahah this is gold.
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On July 29 2013 04:21 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 04:19 MrMercuG wrote:
I'm curious do you think Cloud 9 would be able to pull of the same performance as they're doing right now in America in Europe? There's no way to tell, honestly. We've had these discussions a lot in the LR thread, and I think the consensus is that nobody gets anywhere because its impossible to really tell and everyone just fanboys about it. TSM was undisputed NA champs, beat every European team at least once, but still have never won a game vs a Korean team where less successful teams did. So I don't think a definitive ranking system will come about until Riot introduces interleague play.
There's no way C9 could go 18-2 in EU lcs. I think they'd be a top contender though not near dominant a they are in NA
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On July 29 2013 05:13 Slaughter wrote:
Haha Saint and Double duoing and talking about their LCS match.
Edit: LOL DL not helping Saint on his 1st pull when he went Dorans hahah this is gold.
That's just mean.
Had similar happen to me, enemy jungle proceeded to succesfuly gank both top and mid.
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So, I am in a game where they picked Fizz to counter, with a Xin Zhao top and J4 jungle. XinZhao, J4, and Fizz have been diving me since level 3, and Xin Zhao has rotated between top and mid constantly. Our jungle ganked bottom and tried to help everywhere. Our top and bottom >LOST<
Any advice here? or should I just accept this as unavoidable loss because the enemy committed 3 heroes to mid and my team didn't do shit about it?
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On July 29 2013 05:27 XilDarkz wrote:
So, I am in a game where they picked Fizz to counter, with a Xin Zhao top and J4 jungle. XinZhao, J4, and Fizz have been diving me since level 3, and Xin Zhao has rotated between top and mid constantly. Our jungle ganked bottom and tried to help everywhere. Our top and bottom >LOST<
Any advice here? or should I just accept this as unavoidable loss because the enemy committed 3 heroes to mid and my team didn't do shit about it?
1. What were you playing, what side, and where did you ward.
2. Saying you got dived by J4 and fizz doesn't tell me much. For all I know you mispositioned, blew flash, and they followed, taking a tower shot or two. Unless you were under turret to start with, I don't count that as a dive.
3. Shit happens. QQ thread for that.
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Syndra I assume. That's the only hero he plays.
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On July 29 2013 05:33 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 05:27 XilDarkz wrote:
So, I am in a game where they picked Fizz to counter, with a Xin Zhao top and J4 jungle. XinZhao, J4, and Fizz have been diving me since level 3, and Xin Zhao has rotated between top and mid constantly. Our jungle ganked bottom and tried to help everywhere. Our top and bottom >LOST<
Any advice here? or should I just accept this as unavoidable loss because the enemy committed 3 heroes to mid and my team didn't do shit about it? 1. What were you playing, what side, and where did you ward. 2. Saying you got dived by J4 and fizz doesn't tell me much. For all I know you mispositioned, blew flash, and they followed, taking a tower shot or two. Unless you were under turret to start with, I don't count that as a dive. 3. Shit happens. QQ thread for that.
1.) Syndra (I'm the syndra-only player here)
2.) I was under tower. At full HP. Danced around and they killed me at our tier2 tower--Xin Zhao and J4 tanked the tier1, Fizz tanked the tier2. Fiddle tried helping from our wraith-bush, failed and died. This happened twice before level 6. Bottom (with the only pressure being our Fiddle) went 0-4 and our top went 0-3 during the same period. I was 0-2 from the straight up dives mid.
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You're going to die vs 3 ppl that dive that hard, pretty inevitable. Past that though, I would just hope your top laner could outfarm Xin and splitpush easily since he shouldn't be able to duel.
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On July 29 2013 05:43 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
You're going to die vs 3 ppl that dive that hard, pretty inevitable. Past that though, I would just hope your top laner could outfarm Xin and splitpush easily since he shouldn't be able to duel.
He died to Xin solo (he was Jax) and then died to the 3man going top after killing me (this was seen by wards, btw--he did not react)
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Also, I requested VODs/Replays of high level Syndra vs Fizz earlier but didn't get a response from NeoIllusion in which this request was towards; does anyone have any? I still haven't been able to deal with Fizz...
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On July 29 2013 05:39 XilDarkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 05:33 Amui wrote:On July 29 2013 05:27 XilDarkz wrote:
So, I am in a game where they picked Fizz to counter, with a Xin Zhao top and J4 jungle. XinZhao, J4, and Fizz have been diving me since level 3, and Xin Zhao has rotated between top and mid constantly. Our jungle ganked bottom and tried to help everywhere. Our top and bottom >LOST<
Any advice here? or should I just accept this as unavoidable loss because the enemy committed 3 heroes to mid and my team didn't do shit about it? 1. What were you playing, what side, and where did you ward. 2. Saying you got dived by J4 and fizz doesn't tell me much. For all I know you mispositioned, blew flash, and they followed, taking a tower shot or two. Unless you were under turret to start with, I don't count that as a dive. 3. Shit happens. QQ thread for that. 1.) Syndra (I'm the syndra-only player here) 2.) I was under tower. At full HP. Danced around and they killed me at our tier2 tower--Xin Zhao and J4 tanked the tier1, Fizz tanked the tier2. Fiddle tried helping from our wraith-bush, failed and died. This happened twice before level 6. Bottom (with the only pressure being our Fiddle) went 0-4 and our top went 0-3 during the same period. I was 0-2 from the straight up dives mid.
Fizz is a ward matchup. That means picking an opening which allows you to buy a ward. Favor that side, and J4 should never be able to EQ you without blowing flash, which you can counterflash.
2. If you got killed under your tier 2, I'm 90% sure you mispositioned/misplayed.
You let fizz build up and push up with a large minion wave(very bad). J4 walked right up to the tower so you backed off, but probably not far enough. EXP range is longer than J4 EQ range. There should be no way for them to follow up if creeps are at turret and you're just getting exp, assuming all flashes are up. Xin came around and everybody bumrushed you at T2 and you died. If J4/fizz could follow up, it definitely means you were too close.
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On July 29 2013 05:50 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 05:39 XilDarkz wrote:On July 29 2013 05:33 Amui wrote:On July 29 2013 05:27 XilDarkz wrote:
So, I am in a game where they picked Fizz to counter, with a Xin Zhao top and J4 jungle. XinZhao, J4, and Fizz have been diving me since level 3, and Xin Zhao has rotated between top and mid constantly. Our jungle ganked bottom and tried to help everywhere. Our top and bottom >LOST<
Any advice here? or should I just accept this as unavoidable loss because the enemy committed 3 heroes to mid and my team didn't do shit about it? 1. What were you playing, what side, and where did you ward. 2. Saying you got dived by J4 and fizz doesn't tell me much. For all I know you mispositioned, blew flash, and they followed, taking a tower shot or two. Unless you were under turret to start with, I don't count that as a dive. 3. Shit happens. QQ thread for that. 1.) Syndra (I'm the syndra-only player here) 2.) I was under tower. At full HP. Danced around and they killed me at our tier2 tower--Xin Zhao and J4 tanked the tier1, Fizz tanked the tier2. Fiddle tried helping from our wraith-bush, failed and died. This happened twice before level 6. Bottom (with the only pressure being our Fiddle) went 0-4 and our top went 0-3 during the same period. I was 0-2 from the straight up dives mid. Fizz is a ward matchup. That means picking an opening which allows you to buy a ward. Favor that side, and J4 should never be able to EQ you without blowing flash, which you can counterflash. 2. If you got killed under your tier 2, I'm 90% sure you mispositioned/misplayed. You let fizz build up and push up with a large minion wave(very bad). J4 walked right up to the tower so you backed off, but probably not far enough. EXP range is longer than J4 EQ range. There should be no way for them to follow up if creeps are at turret and you're just getting exp. Xin came around and everybody bumrushed you at T2 and you died. If J4/fizz could follow up, it definitely means you were too close.
I was dodging Fizz under Tier 1 when J4 EQ'd me. Dodging Fizz means sometimes I'm going forward and backward and shit. Should I just eat his jump? The 1st time there was no creep wave and the misplay might've been trying to dodge Fizz's jump; the 2nd time there was a creep wave and my misplay might've been trying to hold at tier 2 instead of backing.
EDIT: Just found out that EXP range is 1600 in this game, which is 450 more than I thought it was. Well... shit. I'm abusing this now.
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On July 29 2013 05:52 XilDarkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 05:50 Amui wrote:On July 29 2013 05:39 XilDarkz wrote:On July 29 2013 05:33 Amui wrote:On July 29 2013 05:27 XilDarkz wrote:
So, I am in a game where they picked Fizz to counter, with a Xin Zhao top and J4 jungle. XinZhao, J4, and Fizz have been diving me since level 3, and Xin Zhao has rotated between top and mid constantly. Our jungle ganked bottom and tried to help everywhere. Our top and bottom >LOST<
Any advice here? or should I just accept this as unavoidable loss because the enemy committed 3 heroes to mid and my team didn't do shit about it? 1. What were you playing, what side, and where did you ward. 2. Saying you got dived by J4 and fizz doesn't tell me much. For all I know you mispositioned, blew flash, and they followed, taking a tower shot or two. Unless you were under turret to start with, I don't count that as a dive. 3. Shit happens. QQ thread for that. 1.) Syndra (I'm the syndra-only player here) 2.) I was under tower. At full HP. Danced around and they killed me at our tier2 tower--Xin Zhao and J4 tanked the tier1, Fizz tanked the tier2. Fiddle tried helping from our wraith-bush, failed and died. This happened twice before level 6. Bottom (with the only pressure being our Fiddle) went 0-4 and our top went 0-3 during the same period. I was 0-2 from the straight up dives mid. Fizz is a ward matchup. That means picking an opening which allows you to buy a ward. Favor that side, and J4 should never be able to EQ you without blowing flash, which you can counterflash. 2. If you got killed under your tier 2, I'm 90% sure you mispositioned/misplayed. You let fizz build up and push up with a large minion wave(very bad). J4 walked right up to the tower so you backed off, but probably not far enough. EXP range is longer than J4 EQ range. There should be no way for them to follow up if creeps are at turret and you're just getting exp. Xin came around and everybody bumrushed you at T2 and you died. If J4/fizz could follow up, it definitely means you were too close. I was dodging Fizz under Tier 1 when J4 EQ'd me. Dodging Fizz means sometimes I'm going forward and backward and shit. Should I just eat his jump? The 1st time there was no creep wave and the misplay might've been trying to dodge Fizz's jump; the 2nd time there was a creep wave and my misplay might've been trying to hold at tier 2 instead of backing.
How is fizz not getting punished for blowing his pole under turret to harass you. If he poles under turret, he is going to have to use it to leave, or he takes turret shots. You should eat his jump if you're under turret because if you hit anything you'll outtrade him. There's no need to try and dodge it under turret. Flash J4's EQ, if you had a minion wave, there are only 2 places J4 could come from without you seeing him coming(both over walls, and very position dependant)
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On July 29 2013 06:01 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 05:52 XilDarkz wrote:On July 29 2013 05:50 Amui wrote:On July 29 2013 05:39 XilDarkz wrote:On July 29 2013 05:33 Amui wrote:On July 29 2013 05:27 XilDarkz wrote:
So, I am in a game where they picked Fizz to counter, with a Xin Zhao top and J4 jungle. XinZhao, J4, and Fizz have been diving me since level 3, and Xin Zhao has rotated between top and mid constantly. Our jungle ganked bottom and tried to help everywhere. Our top and bottom >LOST<
Any advice here? or should I just accept this as unavoidable loss because the enemy committed 3 heroes to mid and my team didn't do shit about it? 1. What were you playing, what side, and where did you ward. 2. Saying you got dived by J4 and fizz doesn't tell me much. For all I know you mispositioned, blew flash, and they followed, taking a tower shot or two. Unless you were under turret to start with, I don't count that as a dive. 3. Shit happens. QQ thread for that. 1.) Syndra (I'm the syndra-only player here) 2.) I was under tower. At full HP. Danced around and they killed me at our tier2 tower--Xin Zhao and J4 tanked the tier1, Fizz tanked the tier2. Fiddle tried helping from our wraith-bush, failed and died. This happened twice before level 6. Bottom (with the only pressure being our Fiddle) went 0-4 and our top went 0-3 during the same period. I was 0-2 from the straight up dives mid. Fizz is a ward matchup. That means picking an opening which allows you to buy a ward. Favor that side, and J4 should never be able to EQ you without blowing flash, which you can counterflash. 2. If you got killed under your tier 2, I'm 90% sure you mispositioned/misplayed. You let fizz build up and push up with a large minion wave(very bad). J4 walked right up to the tower so you backed off, but probably not far enough. EXP range is longer than J4 EQ range. There should be no way for them to follow up if creeps are at turret and you're just getting exp. Xin came around and everybody bumrushed you at T2 and you died. If J4/fizz could follow up, it definitely means you were too close. I was dodging Fizz under Tier 1 when J4 EQ'd me. Dodging Fizz means sometimes I'm going forward and backward and shit. Should I just eat his jump? The 1st time there was no creep wave and the misplay might've been trying to dodge Fizz's jump; the 2nd time there was a creep wave and my misplay might've been trying to hold at tier 2 instead of backing. How is fizz not getting punished for blowing his pole under turret to harass you. If he poles under turret, he is going to have to use it to leave, or he takes turret shots. You should eat his jump if you're under turret because if you hit anything you'll outtrade him. There's no need to try and dodge it under turret. Flash J4's EQ, if you had a minion wave, there are only 2 places J4 could come from without you seeing him coming(both over walls, and very position dependant)
I saw him coming, I just didn't think that they would be able to do it. Evidently, they can.
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On July 29 2013 06:07 XilDarkz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 06:01 Amui wrote:On July 29 2013 05:52 XilDarkz wrote:On July 29 2013 05:50 Amui wrote:On July 29 2013 05:39 XilDarkz wrote:On July 29 2013 05:33 Amui wrote:On July 29 2013 05:27 XilDarkz wrote:
So, I am in a game where they picked Fizz to counter, with a Xin Zhao top and J4 jungle. XinZhao, J4, and Fizz have been diving me since level 3, and Xin Zhao has rotated between top and mid constantly. Our jungle ganked bottom and tried to help everywhere. Our top and bottom >LOST<
Any advice here? or should I just accept this as unavoidable loss because the enemy committed 3 heroes to mid and my team didn't do shit about it? 1. What were you playing, what side, and where did you ward. 2. Saying you got dived by J4 and fizz doesn't tell me much. For all I know you mispositioned, blew flash, and they followed, taking a tower shot or two. Unless you were under turret to start with, I don't count that as a dive. 3. Shit happens. QQ thread for that. 1.) Syndra (I'm the syndra-only player here) 2.) I was under tower. At full HP. Danced around and they killed me at our tier2 tower--Xin Zhao and J4 tanked the tier1, Fizz tanked the tier2. Fiddle tried helping from our wraith-bush, failed and died. This happened twice before level 6. Bottom (with the only pressure being our Fiddle) went 0-4 and our top went 0-3 during the same period. I was 0-2 from the straight up dives mid. Fizz is a ward matchup. That means picking an opening which allows you to buy a ward. Favor that side, and J4 should never be able to EQ you without blowing flash, which you can counterflash. 2. If you got killed under your tier 2, I'm 90% sure you mispositioned/misplayed. You let fizz build up and push up with a large minion wave(very bad). J4 walked right up to the tower so you backed off, but probably not far enough. EXP range is longer than J4 EQ range. There should be no way for them to follow up if creeps are at turret and you're just getting exp. Xin came around and everybody bumrushed you at T2 and you died. If J4/fizz could follow up, it definitely means you were too close. I was dodging Fizz under Tier 1 when J4 EQ'd me. Dodging Fizz means sometimes I'm going forward and backward and shit. Should I just eat his jump? The 1st time there was no creep wave and the misplay might've been trying to dodge Fizz's jump; the 2nd time there was a creep wave and my misplay might've been trying to hold at tier 2 instead of backing. How is fizz not getting punished for blowing his pole under turret to harass you. If he poles under turret, he is going to have to use it to leave, or he takes turret shots. You should eat his jump if you're under turret because if you hit anything you'll outtrade him. There's no need to try and dodge it under turret. Flash J4's EQ, if you had a minion wave, there are only 2 places J4 could come from without you seeing him coming(both over walls, and very position dependant) I saw him coming, I just didn't think that they would be able to do it. Evidently, they can.
There's your misplay then. The only reason J4 would EQ you under turret is because he wants to dive you. Also if you saw him coming, there's no reason for you to be in range of EQ anyways. Experience range is about 500 more than EQ. If you were still trying to CS with autos with 2 people in your lane, that's another problem.
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On July 29 2013 04:54 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
Define modest first-- do you mean like 40 bucks, 60 bucks, 80 bucks or under 200? You could pick up something functional (but not much else) from Ikea for under 40, but for a nice chair you're looking at around 80 minimum I'd say.
I actually really like folding chairs. Right now I'm subletting an empty apartment for the summer, so I'm sitting on a box of school junk I have. $100 is as far as I could see myself going, but only in a "This chair is slightly more than I want to pay, but it is REALLY nice for the price" fashion. I wish I could go cheapo cheapo mode, but health issues make it a waste of money currently.
I am going to be honest. Get the cheaper chairs. And definitely avoid armrests. If you have health issues, just get an El-Cheapo swivel chair with decent padding, most expensive chairs just perpetuate bad posture.
Or you could go with a $20 Yoga ball.
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http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40193191/ I highly, highly recommend this chair. It was one of the chairs available to us at the Quantic house and I liked it so much that I bought it when I moved back home. I also strongly recommend no armwrests no matter what--worst case scenario, you're resting your arms on them, and you're promoting poor wrist posture; best case scenario, you don't use them and they just get in the way.
edit: the game immediately after the rage-inducing Fizz game, this happens:
http://i.imgur.com/h9100H8.jpg
I... have no words for the frustration.
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On July 29 2013 04:54 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2013 03:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
Define modest first-- do you mean like 40 bucks, 60 bucks, 80 bucks or under 200? You could pick up something functional (but not much else) from Ikea for under 40, but for a nice chair you're looking at around 80 minimum I'd say.
I actually really like folding chairs. Right now I'm subletting an empty apartment for the summer, so I'm sitting on a box of school junk I have. $100 is as far as I could see myself going, but only in a "This chair is slightly more than I want to pay, but it is REALLY nice for the price" fashion. I wish I could go cheapo cheapo mode, but health issues make it a waste of money currently.
My chair was 100 euros and I still think it could be better.
I couldn't use a 50 euro chair at all though, if I used the computer this much with a shitty chair my back would be in shambles by now. I recommend not being too stingy about it, you will be using it for a long time and it's very important for your health, one of the most important pieces of furniture you will have
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