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Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
July 27 2013 17:10 GMT
#5981
Is leona just a bad pick vs ez? I have a really hard time playing support vs. ez, I never know how to engage a fight. For example, if I EQ on to him as leona, he just jumps back...who is a good support pick vs ez?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 27 2013 17:15 GMT
#5982
So, my computer's been acting a little odd lately and I'd like to scan it. Problem is, I don't have Norton (I like Norton gtfo haters) because I have some useless shit that my school makes me install.

Anyone know a good free (trial is okay) internet security program I could use to check-up on my computer with?
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 27 2013 17:17 GMT
#5983
Microsoft Security essential is surprisingly good.
liftlift > tsm
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 17:17:51
July 27 2013 17:17 GMT
#5984
Avast
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 27 2013 17:22 GMT
#5985
Malwarebytes, Super Antispyware, Spybot Seach and Destroy.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 27 2013 17:25 GMT
#5986
I would think that the Korean teams hire a personal trainer because they understand that looking good is important. Too bad NA teams don't understand that.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 27 2013 17:30 GMT
#5987
On July 28 2013 02:25 kainzero wrote:
I would think that the Korean teams hire a personal trainer because they understand that looking good is important. Too bad NA teams don't understand that.

Eh, NA teams don't want for popularity, and I think they have more important kinks to work out first
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 17:32:52
July 27 2013 17:31 GMT
#5988
On July 28 2013 02:25 kainzero wrote:
I would think that the Korean teams hire a personal trainer because they understand that looking good is important. Too bad NA teams don't understand that.


Wat.

People love to suck off Korean boys on this site but you sir take the cake. O.o

EDIT: follow some of the NA teams on twitter and it's non-stop Gym action. Curse and CLG in particular.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 27 2013 17:36 GMT
#5989
On July 28 2013 02:31 TheLink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 02:25 kainzero wrote:
I would think that the Korean teams hire a personal trainer because they understand that looking good is important. Too bad NA teams don't understand that.


Wat.

People love to suck off Korean boys on this site but you sir take the cake. O.o

EDIT: follow some of the NA teams on twitter and it's non-stop Gym action. Curse and CLG in particular.


Saint, Chauster and Liquid yeah...DOublelift, Link and co "gym time" is more like to 2-3 useless excercises and then watch Chauster with puppy eyes pressuring him to finish early and drive them home again :D at least that's what DL said in one of his vlogs.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 27 2013 18:03 GMT
#5990
On July 28 2013 02:10 Complete wrote:
Is leona just a bad pick vs ez? I have a really hard time playing support vs. ez, I never know how to engage a fight. For example, if I EQ on to him as leona, he just jumps back...who is a good support pick vs ez?


sona
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 27 2013 18:04 GMT
#5991
On July 28 2013 02:31 TheLink wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 02:25 kainzero wrote:
I would think that the Korean teams hire a personal trainer because they understand that looking good is important. Too bad NA teams don't understand that.


Wat.

People love to suck off Korean boys on this site but you sir take the cake. O.o

EDIT: follow some of the NA teams on twitter and it's non-stop Gym action. Curse and CLG in particular.

No one in clg looks like they lift. At least curse has saint and had elementz. All the other NA teams are dyel status.
liftlift > tsm
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
July 27 2013 18:16 GMT
#5992
as far as twitter goes, CLG's been working out for like 2 years if that's to be belived
Bronze player stuck in platinum
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 18:26:50
July 27 2013 18:26 GMT
#5993
On July 28 2013 02:10 Complete wrote:
Is leona just a bad pick vs ez? I have a really hard time playing support vs. ez, I never know how to engage a fight. For example, if I EQ on to him as leona, he just jumps back...who is a good support pick vs ez?

Melee All-inners are gonna have a hard time vs Ezreal because he's too slippery. You're probably better off with Janna/Sona/Lulu/Nami (Depending on your what own AD and their support are playing) He's really vulnerable to harass/chip damage if he doesn't get a vamp scepter (many ezreals delay it for tear)

Alternatively, DO play leona, ignore ezreal and blow up his support over and over.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 18:51:34
July 27 2013 18:49 GMT
#5994
Leona isn't *that* bad versus Ez if you play well early on.

With bush control (Leona can bully most other supports out of a bush, exceptions are a good Nami, the hooks and Ali), you can threaten an E->Q detonate W without him being able to react in time.

Also, you can force him to reserve mana for his E, which prevents him from being as effective with Q spam. If he goes under 90 mana, he's in trouble.

Remember Arcane shift starts off with like a 20 second CD too, so if you force him to use it he has no escape for awhile.

It's one of those matchups where you're like "this is going to be hard", but you can smash pretty hard if you play it out well early.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
July 27 2013 19:17 GMT
#5995
you can just ward the bush and bush control doesnt mean too much unless you pink it and they dont have one
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-27 19:25:50
July 27 2013 19:25 GMT
#5996
On July 28 2013 02:15 ticklishmusic wrote:
So, my computer's been acting a little odd lately and I'd like to scan it. Problem is, I don't have Norton (I like Norton gtfo haters) because I have some useless shit that my school makes me install.

Anyone know a good free (trial is okay) internet security program I could use to check-up on my computer with?

Microsoft Security Essentials for viruses
Malwarebytes for non-virus malware

Both are free.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 27 2013 19:33 GMT
#5997
On July 28 2013 04:25 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2013 02:15 ticklishmusic wrote:
So, my computer's been acting a little odd lately and I'd like to scan it. Problem is, I don't have Norton (I like Norton gtfo haters) because I have some useless shit that my school makes me install.

Anyone know a good free (trial is okay) internet security program I could use to check-up on my computer with?

Microsoft Security Essentials for viruses
Malwarebytes for non-virus malware

Both are free.


This is exactly what I did nearly every day working for my college's IT help squad. Highly recommend.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 27 2013 19:35 GMT
#5998
On July 28 2013 04:17 Slayer91 wrote:
you can just ward the bush and bush control doesnt mean too much unless you pink it and they dont have one


Use Leona's Q for an auto reset and enemy tears.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
July 27 2013 19:36 GMT
#5999
I will say if anyone here wanted to watch the international but has a hard time telling what is going on, i can set up a skype group that can watch together and you can ask questions and get answers. :D
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
July 27 2013 19:55 GMT
#6000
On July 28 2013 04:36 PrinceXizor wrote:
I will say if anyone here wanted to watch the international but has a hard time telling what is going on, i can set up a skype group that can watch together and you can ask questions and get answers. :D


It's funny because I think 'The Play' at TI2 is my favourite e-sports moment ever, but I probably couldn't describe in detail exactly how and why Na'vi turned that fight around. Link to youtube of said play

A good spectator e-sport should be like that - specifics aren't important but someone who is seeing the game for the first time *should* be able to tell you the general facts of what is going on.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
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