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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
July 18 2013 11:03 GMT
#2641
Don't know if it has been mentioned, but TF's passive on the PBE now gives 1-6 gold when he kills something, it's no longer global.
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People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 18 2013 11:05 GMT
#2642
Yeah let's bring rng back in.I've missed it so much.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
July 18 2013 11:09 GMT
#2643
Well seeing the number of creeps you'll kill and the low-impact it'll have in the game if it's well normalized it won't change much.
The legend of Darien lives on
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
July 18 2013 11:11 GMT
#2644
For Wriggle's, I think it'd be better if the lifesteal was just replaced with a unique passive that gives health back only when attacking jungle monsters. Then you could lower its cost, maybe nerf some stats or add some new ones in, and get that annoying vamp sceptre out of the recipe.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 18 2013 11:12 GMT
#2645
Well it def is worse than his current one no arguing I just REALLY hate rng.I was probably one of the only people who started going spirit stone since day 1 just because I got almost no procs on madred lol.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 18 2013 11:24 GMT
#2646
passives that just give you gold are sooooooo boring though. It literally has absolutely no gameplay effect.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 18 2013 11:42 GMT
#2647
On July 18 2013 20:03 XaCez wrote:
Don't know if it has been mentioned, but TF's passive on the PBE now gives 1-6 gold when he kills something, it's no longer global.
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wtf isn't Riot all about getting rid of the "luck based" things ?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 11:58:18
July 18 2013 11:51 GMT
#2648
On July 18 2013 20:42 Lylat wrote:
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On July 18 2013 20:03 XaCez wrote:
Don't know if it has been mentioned, but TF's passive on the PBE now gives 1-6 gold when he kills something, it's no longer global.
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wtf isn't Riot all about getting rid of the "luck based" things ?

It's not really that luck based. Assuming it's an equal chance of any amount from 1-6, at 100 CS, the standard deviation of the bonus gold is less than 5% of the expected value.

On July 18 2013 20:24 sob3k wrote:
passives that just give you gold are sooooooo boring though. It literally has absolutely no gameplay effect.


Can't really disagree here, though.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 18 2013 12:11 GMT
#2649
jesus, idk if im playing better or what. But in ~20 games, I've gone from unranked to gold 1. I was placed into gold 5 and have only lost 1 game so far while being placed, and lost 3 of my games in the placements themselves lol. I skipped both divisions 4 and 2. I'm not sure if im playing really well or if i've been getting ridiculously lucky with teammates, but my mmr is so high right now i'm playing high plats/low diamonds in gold 1.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 18 2013 12:15 GMT
#2650
On July 18 2013 20:42 Lylat wrote:
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On July 18 2013 20:03 XaCez wrote:
Don't know if it has been mentioned, but TF's passive on the PBE now gives 1-6 gold when he kills something, it's no longer global.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

wtf isn't Riot all about getting rid of the "luck based" things ?


It isn't luck or RNG based. If there was a greater variance in reward then it would be luck based but as it stands it's basically same as saying something like 3 gold per creep but has some flair/lore component to spice things up.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 18 2013 12:23 GMT
#2651
Where is our LCS thread @_@ I want to make more bad predictions
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
July 18 2013 12:36 GMT
#2652
On July 18 2013 21:23 schmutttt wrote:
Where is our LCS thread @_@ I want to make more bad predictions


Cant be that hard to make bad predictions for na. Just predict crs dig clg win and flip a coin if they meet. And always predict c9 loss. Best worst predictions na.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 18 2013 12:39 GMT
#2653
On July 18 2013 21:23 schmutttt wrote:
Where is our LCS thread @_@ I want to make more bad predictions

Dig will get a lead and then keep it

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It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 18 2013 12:39 GMT
#2654
On July 18 2013 21:11 IMoperator wrote:
jesus, idk if im playing better or what. But in ~20 games, I've gone from unranked to gold 1. I was placed into gold 5 and have only lost 1 game so far while being placed, and lost 3 of my games in the placements themselves lol. I skipped both divisions 4 and 2. I'm not sure if im playing really well or if i've been getting ridiculously lucky with teammates, but my mmr is so high right now i'm playing high plats/low diamonds in gold 1.

After a few fuck-ups in late s2, I ended up at 1301 Elo, while I was well between 1400 and 1500 for the most part before that, so there was a deviation of 100-150 below the level I usually played at before the loss streak. I didn't perform too well in the placement matches either (went 6-4 or something like that), ended up in Silver V.
Then I just barely lost any game and bolted through, skipping Silver IV and II to get to Silver I ~40 LP in around 20 games. When you get placed amongst people lower than you and get on a streak your LP start increasing super fast to follow the accelerated Elo gains you get.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 18 2013 12:39 GMT
#2655
BTW EU LCS starts in 20min and no thread ? I know it's bad but still ...
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 18 2013 12:41 GMT
#2656
On July 18 2013 21:39 Alaric wrote:
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On July 18 2013 21:11 IMoperator wrote:
jesus, idk if im playing better or what. But in ~20 games, I've gone from unranked to gold 1. I was placed into gold 5 and have only lost 1 game so far while being placed, and lost 3 of my games in the placements themselves lol. I skipped both divisions 4 and 2. I'm not sure if im playing really well or if i've been getting ridiculously lucky with teammates, but my mmr is so high right now i'm playing high plats/low diamonds in gold 1.

After a few fuck-ups in late s2, I ended up at 1301 Elo, while I was well between 1400 and 1500 for the most part before that, so there was a deviation of 100-150 below the level I usually played at before the loss streak. I didn't perform too well in the placement matches either (went 6-4 or something like that), ended up in Silver V.
Then I just barely lost any game and bolted through, skipping Silver IV and II to get to Silver I ~40 LP in around 20 games. When you get placed amongst people lower than you and get on a streak your LP start increasing super fast to follow the accelerated Elo gains you get.

I'm just scared that I'm not actually at this skill level lol, I'm afraid to play even though this is the closest i've ever been to plat. Feels way too easy, considering my main account has 600+ games played and is gold 2, and I play literally 22 games and I'm gold 1 on this account. Maybe I am getting better, Idk. I really hope that's the case lol.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 12:43:37
July 18 2013 12:42 GMT
#2657
It's in 3h20, not 20 minutes. 6 PM for us GMT+2.

^ maybe you're just lucky. I wasn't a dead weight by any means in my promotion series to Gold but I didn't carry any of the games either, I could as well be sitting at Silver I 50 LP right now.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 18 2013 12:44 GMT
#2658
Sometimes all it takes is a new perspective.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
July 18 2013 12:44 GMT
#2659
Yeah, maybe lol. I like to think I carry though, since I've been getting mid almost every game xD
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
July 18 2013 13:00 GMT
#2660
I support carry every game!
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
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