• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:22
CET 17:22
KST 01:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros7[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win52025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest4
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four DreamHack Open 2013 revealed
Tourneys
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder Map Matchup Stats
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Big Programming Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
KPDH "Golden" as Squid Game…
Peanutsc
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1462 users

[Patch 3.08: Aatrox Patch] General Discussion - Page 379

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 377 378 379 380 Next
Interested in helping start an on-topic, serious League discussion thread? PM Neo to talk about how to get started.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 09 2013 21:26 GMT
#7561
Just be glad that they haven't introduced Try-Vlad-Gar. The 575 Range Manaless ADC.

Passive: Furiocity. TVG gains 10 Furyocity for each autoattack and 25 for each spell cast. At 100 Furiocity TVG gains 25% od his AD as bonus AD and All spellcasts have bonus effects. Deteriorats 1/s when out of combat.
Q: TVG Drains life from the target, restoring Vladgar's health for the amount drained.
Bonus: Places Critical Wounds on Target
W: TVG Dashes to the target location
Bonus: TVG Gains V/W/X/Y/Z Attack speed for A seconds
E: TVG Throws a thing at a guy. This slows the guy.
Bonus: The root is now a snare.
R: TVG Stealths Instantly Getting 100 Furiocity
Bonus: If cast with 100 Furiocity TVG can re-activate within 5 seconds restoring 50% life and restealthing.

Freeeeeeedom
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 21:28:44
July 09 2013 21:26 GMT
#7562
I'm mostly just excited about watching Doublelift play Lucian (a high mobility champ). A built-in semi-cleanse/dash is going to be invaluable for an ADC. Of course it all comes down to numbers and what his AA range will be and whether his spells/procs are magic or physical damage.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
July 09 2013 21:27 GMT
#7563
I'm off to bed anyway, can't wait for OGN tomorrow. In other news, here is a Thresh with 6.5k+ AP.
http://www.twitch.tv/koerrie
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 09 2013 21:33 GMT
#7564
On July 10 2013 06:26 cLutZ wrote:
Just be glad that they haven't introduced Try-Vlad-Gar. The 575 Range Manaless ADC.

Passive: Furiocity. TVG gains 10 Furyocity for each autoattack and 25 for each spell cast. At 100 Furiocity TVG gains 25% od his AD as bonus AD and All spellcasts have bonus effects. Deteriorats 1/s when out of combat.
Q: TVG Drains life from the target, restoring Vladgar's health for the amount drained.
Bonus: Places Critical Wounds on Target
W: TVG Dashes to the target location
Bonus: TVG Gains V/W/X/Y/Z Attack speed for A seconds
E: TVG Throws a thing at a guy. This slows the guy.
Bonus: The root is now a snare.
R: TVG Stealths Instantly Getting 100 Furiocity
Bonus: If cast with 100 Furiocity TVG can re-activate within 5 seconds restoring 50% life and restealthing.



wheres the built in GA
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 09 2013 21:36 GMT
#7565
Good God, that is patience.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 09 2013 21:36 GMT
#7566
On July 10 2013 06:33 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 06:26 cLutZ wrote:
Just be glad that they haven't introduced Try-Vlad-Gar. The 575 Range Manaless ADC.

Passive: Furiocity. TVG gains 10 Furyocity for each autoattack and 25 for each spell cast. At 100 Furiocity TVG gains 25% od his AD as bonus AD and All spellcasts have bonus effects. Deteriorats 1/s when out of combat.
Q: TVG Drains life from the target, restoring Vladgar's health for the amount drained.
Bonus: Places Critical Wounds on Target
W: TVG Dashes to the target location
Bonus: TVG Gains V/W/X/Y/Z Attack speed for A seconds
E: TVG Throws a thing at a guy. This slows the guy.
Bonus: The root is now a snare.
R: TVG Stealths Instantly Getting 100 Furiocity
Bonus: If cast with 100 Furiocity TVG can re-activate within 5 seconds restoring 50% life and restealthing.



wheres the built in GA


I give them some credit.
Freeeeeeedom
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 09 2013 21:37 GMT
#7567
On July 10 2013 06:27 XaCez wrote:
I'm off to bed anyway, can't wait for OGN tomorrow. In other news, here is a Thresh with 6.5k+ AP.
http://www.twitch.tv/koerrie


Pretty cool script he's got running. Really simple but effective. He misprogrammed the latern toss though IMO. I see only like 1/3 of the souls getting picked up by the lantern.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 09 2013 21:39 GMT
#7568
A kit doesn't have to be super innovative and awe inspiring to be interesting. Ez is just a jump and skillshots, which is pretty standard for any champ really, but because his kit's focus on Q it gives him a completely different feel from every other AD. It used to be super different when he had a damn heal and AS slow but it was also pretty fucking broken.

I think the best kits are the ones that just play damn different, like Singed or Swain. Neither is super strong right now sure, but they're both really different and interesting from a design point because they don't follow the formulas of their roles. You have to have a different mindset when playing them, you have to play against them differently.

Not every champ can be innovative and different, but honestly with 100+ champs it's really starting to get repetitive and a bit bland. I'd rather they spent another 2 months without a champ and design a more interesting kit. Hell Aatrox is pretty bland even though I think his design is sick, Lucian much of the same. They could have done a lot more with a dual wielding idea, they could have focused on mobility but given him no steroid and slightly lower damage, etc. Instead we get a dull passive and a standard skillshot/dash kit.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm a bit bitter yes.
It's your boy Guzma!
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 09 2013 21:43 GMT
#7569
every time i play lee sin after a longer break im amazed how fun he is, will riot ever create new champion who is close to that?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
July 09 2013 21:44 GMT
#7570
Welp, I tried.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 09 2013 21:47 GMT
#7571
The problem I have is that Riot is developing champs from roles, rather than developing champs from kits, and letting players decide what role the champ should play.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 21:49:39
July 09 2013 21:49 GMT
#7572
So I'm hoping that his bundle skin will be Matrix Lucian. So much awesomeness o.o
On July 10 2013 06:44 Ketara wrote:
Welp, I tried.

It was a good try, hi5
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 09 2013 21:50 GMT
#7573
Viktor has decent kill potential but because he can't really 100-0 people unless he commits his Flash, probably Ignite, and has other items on top of Augment:Death, it usually just requires him to hit several E which ends with people zoning themselves and farming from afar/trying to nuke the wave (fuck you Lux, TF, Anivia and other snoozefest-when-behind fail proof mids) so you just roam and try to kill other lanes.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
July 09 2013 21:50 GMT
#7574
1 Fiddle ult by my jungler decided that I am resigned to stay in Silver today. Perhaps next week.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 22:16:32
July 09 2013 21:53 GMT
#7575
On July 10 2013 06:47 Amui wrote:
The problem I have is that Riot is developing champs from roles, rather than developing champs from kits, and letting players decide what role the champ should play.


And Riot said they don't like the meta.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 09 2013 21:55 GMT
#7576
I just realized that Lucian even has a reset on kills.

Riot aced this champ.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 09 2013 21:58 GMT
#7577
for anyone interested in more drama

http://www.twitch.tv/sotl?????
will talk about the MRN thing, with slasher as guest.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
July 09 2013 22:00 GMT
#7578
Honestly the (lane-assignment) meta makes solo queue go so much smoother. Imagine if you had to discuss whether you're sending AP+support bot or AD+support bot or doing double jungle or no jungle or dual mid every single time you entered a queue, only to end up with AP+support bot, AP mid, AP top, and AP jungler. The meta ensures that even groups of people with absolutely no concept of team composition can come up with a serviceable team comp.

ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 09 2013 22:04 GMT
#7579
Everyone is well aware that it's standard to have ADC/support bot nowadays

It evolved like that from days when you had ADC solo mid and stuff like blitz/ali bot. Do you remember S1 worlds? ADC/Support bot was still called "EU style" back then
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 09 2013 22:07 GMT
#7580
I been away from the game for a bit and just ran into a couple of people who swear that nunu is #1 ban priority. I don't see nunu as being ban worthy period.... Is he that good now? I thought he was still kinda just ok in the current swing of things. This is in Silver btw.
Never Knows Best.
Prev 1 377 378 379 380 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Epic.LAN
13:00
Epic.LAN 46 Group Stage
Liquipedia
CrankTV Team League
13:00
Playoffs: Bo13
BASILISK vs Team LiquidLIVE!
LiquipediaDiscussion
WardiTV Invitational
12:15
Playoffs
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
TBD vs Solar
WardiTV1028
TKL 267
IndyStarCraft 188
Rex113
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 313
TKL 267
IndyStarCraft 188
LamboSC2 132
Rex 113
BRAT_OK 29
UpATreeSC 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4605
Hyuk 2878
Bisu 2068
Mini 810
Flash 735
Shuttle 531
firebathero 260
actioN 223
sas.Sziky 64
Sea.KH 62
[ Show more ]
Soulkey 50
Mong 50
yabsab 25
Free 19
JulyZerg 18
soO 16
Shine 13
Sacsri 11
HiyA 8
Dota 2
Gorgc7524
qojqva2809
Dendi969
420jenkins290
syndereN269
XcaliburYe194
canceldota21
Counter-Strike
fl0m2294
oskar109
pashabiceps26
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor133
Other Games
B2W.Neo698
DeMusliM393
Lowko332
crisheroes330
Hui .293
Sick150
KnowMe138
Fuzer 106
QueenE51
nookyyy 49
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL17276
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 61
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade831
• Shiphtur558
Other Games
• imaqtpie318
• WagamamaTV183
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
6h 38m
Epic.LAN
19h 38m
BSL Team A[vengers]
21h 38m
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
LAN Event
21h 38m
BSL 21
1d 2h
BSL Team A[vengers]
1d 21h
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
LAN Event
1d 22h
BSL 21
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.