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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 09 2013 21:26 GMT
#7561
Just be glad that they haven't introduced Try-Vlad-Gar. The 575 Range Manaless ADC.

Passive: Furiocity. TVG gains 10 Furyocity for each autoattack and 25 for each spell cast. At 100 Furiocity TVG gains 25% od his AD as bonus AD and All spellcasts have bonus effects. Deteriorats 1/s when out of combat.
Q: TVG Drains life from the target, restoring Vladgar's health for the amount drained.
Bonus: Places Critical Wounds on Target
W: TVG Dashes to the target location
Bonus: TVG Gains V/W/X/Y/Z Attack speed for A seconds
E: TVG Throws a thing at a guy. This slows the guy.
Bonus: The root is now a snare.
R: TVG Stealths Instantly Getting 100 Furiocity
Bonus: If cast with 100 Furiocity TVG can re-activate within 5 seconds restoring 50% life and restealthing.

Freeeeeeedom
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 21:28:44
July 09 2013 21:26 GMT
#7562
I'm mostly just excited about watching Doublelift play Lucian (a high mobility champ). A built-in semi-cleanse/dash is going to be invaluable for an ADC. Of course it all comes down to numbers and what his AA range will be and whether his spells/procs are magic or physical damage.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
July 09 2013 21:27 GMT
#7563
I'm off to bed anyway, can't wait for OGN tomorrow. In other news, here is a Thresh with 6.5k+ AP.
http://www.twitch.tv/koerrie
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
July 09 2013 21:33 GMT
#7564
On July 10 2013 06:26 cLutZ wrote:
Just be glad that they haven't introduced Try-Vlad-Gar. The 575 Range Manaless ADC.

Passive: Furiocity. TVG gains 10 Furyocity for each autoattack and 25 for each spell cast. At 100 Furiocity TVG gains 25% od his AD as bonus AD and All spellcasts have bonus effects. Deteriorats 1/s when out of combat.
Q: TVG Drains life from the target, restoring Vladgar's health for the amount drained.
Bonus: Places Critical Wounds on Target
W: TVG Dashes to the target location
Bonus: TVG Gains V/W/X/Y/Z Attack speed for A seconds
E: TVG Throws a thing at a guy. This slows the guy.
Bonus: The root is now a snare.
R: TVG Stealths Instantly Getting 100 Furiocity
Bonus: If cast with 100 Furiocity TVG can re-activate within 5 seconds restoring 50% life and restealthing.



wheres the built in GA
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
July 09 2013 21:36 GMT
#7565
Good God, that is patience.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 09 2013 21:36 GMT
#7566
On July 10 2013 06:33 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 06:26 cLutZ wrote:
Just be glad that they haven't introduced Try-Vlad-Gar. The 575 Range Manaless ADC.

Passive: Furiocity. TVG gains 10 Furyocity for each autoattack and 25 for each spell cast. At 100 Furiocity TVG gains 25% od his AD as bonus AD and All spellcasts have bonus effects. Deteriorats 1/s when out of combat.
Q: TVG Drains life from the target, restoring Vladgar's health for the amount drained.
Bonus: Places Critical Wounds on Target
W: TVG Dashes to the target location
Bonus: TVG Gains V/W/X/Y/Z Attack speed for A seconds
E: TVG Throws a thing at a guy. This slows the guy.
Bonus: The root is now a snare.
R: TVG Stealths Instantly Getting 100 Furiocity
Bonus: If cast with 100 Furiocity TVG can re-activate within 5 seconds restoring 50% life and restealthing.



wheres the built in GA


I give them some credit.
Freeeeeeedom
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 09 2013 21:37 GMT
#7567
On July 10 2013 06:27 XaCez wrote:
I'm off to bed anyway, can't wait for OGN tomorrow. In other news, here is a Thresh with 6.5k+ AP.
http://www.twitch.tv/koerrie


Pretty cool script he's got running. Really simple but effective. He misprogrammed the latern toss though IMO. I see only like 1/3 of the souls getting picked up by the lantern.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 09 2013 21:39 GMT
#7568
A kit doesn't have to be super innovative and awe inspiring to be interesting. Ez is just a jump and skillshots, which is pretty standard for any champ really, but because his kit's focus on Q it gives him a completely different feel from every other AD. It used to be super different when he had a damn heal and AS slow but it was also pretty fucking broken.

I think the best kits are the ones that just play damn different, like Singed or Swain. Neither is super strong right now sure, but they're both really different and interesting from a design point because they don't follow the formulas of their roles. You have to have a different mindset when playing them, you have to play against them differently.

Not every champ can be innovative and different, but honestly with 100+ champs it's really starting to get repetitive and a bit bland. I'd rather they spent another 2 months without a champ and design a more interesting kit. Hell Aatrox is pretty bland even though I think his design is sick, Lucian much of the same. They could have done a lot more with a dual wielding idea, they could have focused on mobility but given him no steroid and slightly lower damage, etc. Instead we get a dull passive and a standard skillshot/dash kit.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm a bit bitter yes.
It's your boy Guzma!
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
July 09 2013 21:43 GMT
#7569
every time i play lee sin after a longer break im amazed how fun he is, will riot ever create new champion who is close to that?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
July 09 2013 21:44 GMT
#7570
Welp, I tried.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 09 2013 21:47 GMT
#7571
The problem I have is that Riot is developing champs from roles, rather than developing champs from kits, and letting players decide what role the champ should play.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 21:49:39
July 09 2013 21:49 GMT
#7572
So I'm hoping that his bundle skin will be Matrix Lucian. So much awesomeness o.o
On July 10 2013 06:44 Ketara wrote:
Welp, I tried.

It was a good try, hi5
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
July 09 2013 21:50 GMT
#7573
Viktor has decent kill potential but because he can't really 100-0 people unless he commits his Flash, probably Ignite, and has other items on top of Augment:Death, it usually just requires him to hit several E which ends with people zoning themselves and farming from afar/trying to nuke the wave (fuck you Lux, TF, Anivia and other snoozefest-when-behind fail proof mids) so you just roam and try to kill other lanes.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
July 09 2013 21:50 GMT
#7574
1 Fiddle ult by my jungler decided that I am resigned to stay in Silver today. Perhaps next week.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 22:16:32
July 09 2013 21:53 GMT
#7575
On July 10 2013 06:47 Amui wrote:
The problem I have is that Riot is developing champs from roles, rather than developing champs from kits, and letting players decide what role the champ should play.


And Riot said they don't like the meta.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
July 09 2013 21:55 GMT
#7576
I just realized that Lucian even has a reset on kills.

Riot aced this champ.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 09 2013 21:58 GMT
#7577
for anyone interested in more drama

http://www.twitch.tv/sotl?????
will talk about the MRN thing, with slasher as guest.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
July 09 2013 22:00 GMT
#7578
Honestly the (lane-assignment) meta makes solo queue go so much smoother. Imagine if you had to discuss whether you're sending AP+support bot or AD+support bot or doing double jungle or no jungle or dual mid every single time you entered a queue, only to end up with AP+support bot, AP mid, AP top, and AP jungler. The meta ensures that even groups of people with absolutely no concept of team composition can come up with a serviceable team comp.

ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 09 2013 22:04 GMT
#7579
Everyone is well aware that it's standard to have ADC/support bot nowadays

It evolved like that from days when you had ADC solo mid and stuff like blitz/ali bot. Do you remember S1 worlds? ADC/Support bot was still called "EU style" back then
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
July 09 2013 22:07 GMT
#7580
I been away from the game for a bit and just ran into a couple of people who swear that nunu is #1 ban priority. I don't see nunu as being ban worthy period.... Is he that good now? I thought he was still kinda just ok in the current swing of things. This is in Silver btw.
Never Knows Best.
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