It is really low at higher levels with 40% cdr though. W reduces the cd so much if you get the whole thing off. Her self-E -> W -> RQ just as her target gets rooted is crazy strong too in lane and smaller skirmishes.

Just realized you might be talking about support karma, I've mostly played her mid.

Gahlo

United States35127 Posts

June 11 2013 02:52 GMT

#42

On June 11 2013 11:43 Lmui wrote:
Off topic but is there a thread for the E3 coverage? PS4 just burned Xbone hard...

What happened?

Lmui

Canada6213 Posts

June 11 2013 03:01 GMT

#43

On June 11 2013 11:52 Gahlo wrote:

Show nested quote +

What happened?

Used games, offline capable,

http://yamamoto114.deviantart.com/art/Comprehensive-8th-Generation-Console-Comparison-373228423

sums up a bunch of the differences.

FinestHour

United States18466 Posts

June 11 2013 03:02 GMT

#44

ps4 can play games offline

sad that it has to be announced as a 'feature'

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

June 11 2013 03:06 GMT

#45

Oh and it's $100 cheaper. Microsoft just got wrecked so hard.

bittman

Australia8759 Posts

June 11 2013 03:09 GMT

#46

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=416632 - E3...literally in the sidebar, didn't even search =P

In other news, I like the idea of a more tanky tibbers.

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

June 11 2013 03:09 GMT

#47

On June 11 2013 12:06 onlywonderboy wrote:
Oh and it's $100 cheaper. Microsoft just got wrecked so hard.

that entire press conference was just Sony screaming at Microsoft "SUCK MY DICK"

Navi

5286 Posts

June 11 2013 03:11 GMT

#48

microsoft is moving in the direction that games will probably go at some point in the future. but they're shooting themselves in the foot by being the only console to do so in this generation.

Chrispy

Canada5878 Posts

June 11 2013 03:11 GMT

#49

LOL. Yeah... I really don't see how Microsoft's going to compete with Sony at all this generation. At fucking all. I just wish I could plug in the 360 controller into the PS4 or something though because I hate sony's tiny little controller and their buttery ass analog stick.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

June 11 2013 03:12 GMT

#50

these jungle changes seem like the most ridiculous jungler nerf ever

caelym

United States6421 Posts

June 11 2013 03:12 GMT

#51

I thought $499 for xbox is reasonable, but $399 for ps4 is just gg. Just imagine during holiday sales, a household is going to decide between the two. So many people are going to pick ps4 over xbox purely based on price.

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

June 11 2013 03:14 GMT

#52

On June 11 2013 12:11 Chrispy wrote:
LOL. Yeah... I really don't see how Microsoft's going to compete with Sony at all this generation. At fucking all. I just wish I could plug in the 360 controller into the PS4 or something though because I hate sony's tiny little controller and their buttery ass analog stick.

I know right. Xbox will probably still have a better controller but that's about all they got going for them. Fuck...I was prepared to come out of this thinking "That's cool but I'll probably still get XBO." Nope, PS4 hands down right now.

On June 11 2013 12:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
these jungle changes seem like the most ridiculous jungler nerf ever

Care to expound?

cLutZ

United States19573 Posts

June 11 2013 03:15 GMT

#53

A major blow IMO is still that Microsoft's exclusive game list is just pure rubbish.

OutlaW-

Czech Republic5053 Posts

June 11 2013 03:21 GMT

#54

Thresh

Death Sentence

Fixed a bug where Thresh could cast Flash while casting Death Sentence
hello? Riot? hello?

AsmodeusXI

United States15536 Posts

June 11 2013 03:27 GMT

#55

On June 11 2013 12:21 OutlaW- wrote:
Thresh

Death Sentence

Removed a feature where Thresh could cast Flash while casting Death Sentence
hello? Riot? hello?

Think I nailed it.

Gahlo

United States35127 Posts

June 11 2013 03:27 GMT

#56

On June 11 2013 12:21 OutlaW- wrote:
Thresh

Death Sentence

Fixed a bug where Thresh could cast Flash while casting Death Sentence
hello? Riot? hello?

Well, it was a bug. Whether or not it was good for the game is besides the point.

OutlaW-

Czech Republic5053 Posts

June 11 2013 03:28 GMT

#57

On June 11 2013 12:27 Gahlo wrote:

Show nested quote +

Well, it was a bug. Whether or not it was good for the game is besides the point.

are you saying that bugs that are beneficial for the game should still be removed based solely on the reason that they weren't intended?

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

June 11 2013 03:29 GMT

#58

doesn't this make it one of the only spells in the game that you can't cast a summoner during?

Gahlo

United States35127 Posts

June 11 2013 03:30 GMT

#59

On June 11 2013 12:28 OutlaW- wrote:

Show nested quote +

are you saying that bugs that are beneficial for the game should still be removed based solely on the reason that they weren't intended?

Ahem, "Whether or not it was good for the game is besides the point."

Such ancillary things on Thresh are what obfuscates what his actual power is.

On June 11 2013 12:29 Slusher wrote:
doesn't this make it one of the only spells in the game that you can't cast a summoner during?

From what I have heard, there was a time when Blitz's hook did the same, and they patched it out.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

June 11 2013 03:31 GMT

#60

YOU GUYS MISSED THE BIGGEST PART OF SONY'S CONFERENCE

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