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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
June 21 2013 00:52 GMT
#2721
On June 21 2013 09:51 Shikyo wrote:
Oh by the way, Nidalee spear hitting = g.g. just like Jayce shockblast hitting = g.g. but Nidalee doesn't have a skill that gives his team +50% movespeed to catch up to the enemy team and kill them when they're low.

Nid spears also don't travel that fast.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
June 21 2013 00:52 GMT
#2722
On June 21 2013 09:50 mr_tolkien wrote:
When I stream, I keep getting sniped by an asshole who made an habit of trolling me hard, insulting me, and reporting me every game. I got the «negativity warning» from Riot while not speaking once except for calls in my last 20 games, and being VERY careful about my chat, since next ban is perma-ban.

This guy is pretty obviously aware of that (he must follow my FB page or stg) and, since he reports me every game, I'm bound to go the tribunal. Once in the tribunal, I'm pretty much already perma-banned, we all know how it works.

This is just depressing.


if you get reported constantly by the same person it's not the same as different people reporting you im pretty sure
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 00:56:09
June 21 2013 00:54 GMT
#2723
Meh, current Jayce is a product of other Champion nerfs and muramana change , less so him being fucktard strong. The pick/ban rate in OGN posted earlier is a pretty striking. As far as 'free farm' goes with Jayce, his shock blast takes significant amount of levels and farm to get to khaziks level clear. Also when did gd turn into qq thread and reddit 'riot plz' post?
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 21 2013 01:05 GMT
#2724
On June 21 2013 09:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Meh, current Jayce is a product of other Champion nerfs and muramana change , less so him being fucktard strong. The pick/ban rate in OGN posted earlier is a pretty striking. As far as 'free farm' goes with Jayce, his shock blast takes significant amount of levels and farm to get to khaziks level clear. Also when did gd turn into qq thread and reddit 'riot plz' post?

Huh?

He clears entire waves with melee QW as he does with a shockblast. Look the numbers up perhaps? He clears better than Kha'Zix.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23442 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 01:18:24
June 21 2013 01:15 GMT
#2725
yeah its not like jayce is insanely broken its just he has everything. Safe waveclear if he's behind, strong bullying if he's not, great anti gank tools, great teamfight utility.

Typically, any laner that can both all in well and has an escape is going to be a competitive pick. Talon? havent seen him in ages, here comes zed, basically the same champ but with longer range farming and an escape skill (better single target nuking too and oracles doesnt hard counter him but stuff like zhonyas does so w/e) and suddenly he's being spamming. Katarina? Relies a bit too much on an interruptable ult and needs wards/creeps/champs to jump too. Khazix with a long ass range jungle to escape and great waveclear is played way more even though the basic champ is the same (reset based jump champ)

a huge amount of the game is simply based around ability to lane effectively in games against high level junglers (who typically pick champs with insane cc or double jumps and shit see elise, lee sin, naut etc)

really the champs without escapes should have a marked advantage but so far there seems to be no power difference between a champ with an escape and one without one even though it changes how you can play quite a bit. (and by escape I mean talons jump can be used to juke like irelias q or lee's w but its not the same as just jumping away liek zed or kha or jayce acceleration gate+knockback+already he can farm from massive range)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 21 2013 01:19 GMT
#2726
On June 21 2013 10:05 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 09:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Meh, current Jayce is a product of other Champion nerfs and muramana change , less so him being fucktard strong. The pick/ban rate in OGN posted earlier is a pretty striking. As far as 'free farm' goes with Jayce, his shock blast takes significant amount of levels and farm to get to khaziks level clear. Also when did gd turn into qq thread and reddit 'riot plz' post?

Huh?

He clears entire waves with melee QW as he does with a shockblast. Look the numbers up perhaps? He clears better than Kha'Zix.

Difference is qw combo puts you in risk range. The issue you guys were saying was 'free farm' which means risk free. If he has to jump into creeps it's not risk free.

The main issue I have about jayce is that his melee form is so boring. In team fight only E is remotely useful.
liftlift > tsm
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-21 01:24:54
June 21 2013 01:23 GMT
#2727
On June 21 2013 10:19 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 10:05 Shikyo wrote:
On June 21 2013 09:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Meh, current Jayce is a product of other Champion nerfs and muramana change , less so him being fucktard strong. The pick/ban rate in OGN posted earlier is a pretty striking. As far as 'free farm' goes with Jayce, his shock blast takes significant amount of levels and farm to get to khaziks level clear. Also when did gd turn into qq thread and reddit 'riot plz' post?

Huh?

He clears entire waves with melee QW as he does with a shockblast. Look the numbers up perhaps? He clears better than Kha'Zix.

Difference is qw combo puts you in risk range. The issue you guys were saying was 'free farm' which means risk free. If he has to jump into creeps it's not risk free.

The main issue I have about jayce is that his melee form is so boring. In team fight only E is remotely useful.

Jayce Q clears entire waves at lower levels than Khaz W even without using acceleration gate. With gate it's nowhere near a contest. Jayce also stacks tear about 3 times as fast unless Khaz can melee.

Might also add that Jayce is a far stronger laner than Kha'Zix and while it's quite usual for Kha'Zix to get denied and fall behind, the same doesn't really happen to Jayce.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 21 2013 01:33 GMT
#2728
The difference is E max is a pretty common jayce build, sometimes even w max. So more often than naught. Khaziks more likely to reach wave clear potential even earlier.
liftlift > tsm
Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
June 21 2013 01:47 GMT
#2729
On June 21 2013 09:52 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 09:50 mr_tolkien wrote:
When I stream, I keep getting sniped by an asshole who made an habit of trolling me hard, insulting me, and reporting me every game. I got the «negativity warning» from Riot while not speaking once except for calls in my last 20 games, and being VERY careful about my chat, since next ban is perma-ban.

This guy is pretty obviously aware of that (he must follow my FB page or stg) and, since he reports me every game, I'm bound to go the tribunal. Once in the tribunal, I'm pretty much already perma-banned, we all know how it works.

This is just depressing.


if you get reported constantly by the same person it's not the same as different people reporting you im pretty sure

This is correct -- there's a lot of grudges at the higher leagues because they're always queuing into eachother lol
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 21 2013 01:51 GMT
#2730
On June 20 2013 11:23 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 11:09 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 20 2013 11:07 LaNague wrote:
is anyone else using ctrl+q etc for smartcasting?

this patch did somethine and now sometimes my spells dont fire when i try to use them this way.
I havent figured out what it is.


I've noticed that alt+q/w/e/r for self-casting seems delayed. I don't know what it is, but it's really weird.


Alt to self-cast is awful, I swear I have to cast some abilities like 3 times before they go off.


Before this patch it always worked instantly for me. What do you use instead?
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
June 21 2013 01:56 GMT
#2731
On June 21 2013 10:33 wei2coolman wrote:
The difference is E max is a pretty common jayce build, sometimes even w max. So more often than naught. Khaziks more likely to reach wave clear potential even earlier.

No they aren't? Q max is all we ever see anymore.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 21 2013 02:24 GMT
#2732
On June 21 2013 10:56 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 10:33 wei2coolman wrote:
The difference is E max is a pretty common jayce build, sometimes even w max. So more often than naught. Khaziks more likely to reach wave clear potential even earlier.

No they aren't? Q max is all we ever see anymore.

Yup, Kha'Zix Q max is more common than Jayce non-Q max. Seriously..
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 21 2013 02:25 GMT
#2733
On June 21 2013 11:24 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 10:56 sylverfyre wrote:
On June 21 2013 10:33 wei2coolman wrote:
The difference is E max is a pretty common jayce build, sometimes even w max. So more often than naught. Khaziks more likely to reach wave clear potential even earlier.

No they aren't? Q max is all we ever see anymore.

Yup, Kha'Zix Q max is more common than Jayce non-Q max. Seriously..

Was still under impression e max was still common.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 21 2013 02:25 GMT
#2734
MegaZero went Q max on Kha'Zix in Top Lane against Trynd yesterday. Totally shat all over Trynd.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 21 2013 02:34 GMT
#2735
It's so good against melees especially after the new evolve. The range is incredible and it has crazy bonus damage even if the target isn't isolated.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 21 2013 02:34 GMT
#2736
Noticed a Snapdragon advert during game 7 of the NBA finals. TSM is so setup.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 21 2013 02:49 GMT
#2737
On June 21 2013 11:34 Irave wrote:
Noticed a Snapdragon advert during game 7 of the NBA finals. TSM is so setup.

Considering Qualcomm made a 6 billion profit last year it's a decent sponsor.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
June 21 2013 03:08 GMT
#2738
On June 21 2013 11:49 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 11:34 Irave wrote:
Noticed a Snapdragon advert during game 7 of the NBA finals. TSM is so setup.

Considering Qualcomm made a 6 billion profit last year it's a decent sponsor.

Heh, made sure my new phone has a Qualcomm processor.

#TSM #BAYLIFE #FREEPHONE
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
June 21 2013 03:16 GMT
#2739
omfg 3 games won in a row and i am still 99 pts +0, how many more till 100??????
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 21 2013 03:17 GMT
#2740
On June 21 2013 10:23 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 10:19 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 21 2013 10:05 Shikyo wrote:
On June 21 2013 09:54 wei2coolman wrote:
Meh, current Jayce is a product of other Champion nerfs and muramana change , less so him being fucktard strong. The pick/ban rate in OGN posted earlier is a pretty striking. As far as 'free farm' goes with Jayce, his shock blast takes significant amount of levels and farm to get to khaziks level clear. Also when did gd turn into qq thread and reddit 'riot plz' post?

Huh?

He clears entire waves with melee QW as he does with a shockblast. Look the numbers up perhaps? He clears better than Kha'Zix.

Difference is qw combo puts you in risk range. The issue you guys were saying was 'free farm' which means risk free. If he has to jump into creeps it's not risk free.

The main issue I have about jayce is that his melee form is so boring. In team fight only E is remotely useful.

Jayce Q clears entire waves at lower levels than Khaz W even without using acceleration gate. With gate it's nowhere near a contest. Jayce also stacks tear about 3 times as fast unless Khaz can melee.

Might also add that Jayce is a far stronger laner than Kha'Zix and while it's quite usual for Kha'Zix to get denied and fall behind, the same doesn't really happen to Jayce.


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