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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 30 2013 00:55 GMT
#3961
Too bad Curse isn't too skilled at Smite then.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 30 2013 00:59 GMT
#3962
On May 30 2013 09:55 Alaric wrote:
Too bad Curse isn't too skilled at Smite then.


BOOM HEADSHOT!

Also, Capricious currently owning scarra on stream. #TLrepresent
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 30 2013 01:01 GMT
#3963
On May 30 2013 09:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 09:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm honestly surprised we have as many BW veterans as we do here that play LoL over Dota.

I'm not.

The things that make a "hardcore" MOBA that way are not the same things that make a game like Starcraft "hardcore". It's just a matter of choice/opinion/illogical prejudices. In the case of LoL, there are plenty of people who just find the game more fun/relaxing/have more friends playing the game.

Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 09:53 AsmodeusXI wrote:
fuk all u geeks, smite is the only srs and skilled moba

The one thing that both DotAers and LoLers can agree on.

You make a good point, go figure. I guess it just seems that way since no former BW content creators decided to cover LoL and either stuck with SC2 or started covering Dota as their MOBA of choice. But LoL is still in it's infancy though, the personalities will develop.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 01:03:16
May 30 2013 01:02 GMT
#3964
To be fair Scarra's playing Yorick. He's asking for it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 30 2013 01:03 GMT
#3965
On May 30 2013 10:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
You make a good point, go figure. I guess it just seems that way since no former BW content creators decided to cover LoL and either stuck with SC2 or started covering Dota as their MOBA of choice. But LoL is still in it's infancy though, the personalities will develop.

That's because by the end of BW's life, the content creation was predominantly in the sphere of learning and competitive play. That doesn't mean that's representative of all the players, though.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 30 2013 01:04 GMT
#3966
On May 30 2013 10:02 Alaric wrote:
To be fair Scarra's playing Yorick. He's asking for it.


If he were a gentleman he'd be playing Kha or Jayce, obv.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 30 2013 01:05 GMT
#3967
On May 30 2013 09:05 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 08:40 Mogwai wrote:
this has literally always been the right way to play singed.................

And Top nunu is supposed to be played with extra mana for sustain.

Riot doesn't follow their "right ways" to play a champion. Not that I've ever seen a singed play like the one against Dyrus. If they did then Singed wouldn't have lost his tenacity and Nunu much of his sustain.

Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 08:43 gtrsrs wrote:
On May 30 2013 08:36 obesechicken13 wrote:
On May 30 2013 08:02 affinity wrote:
Have any of you seen this super deep singed proxy farming? http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3495251

The singed just starts proxy farming between inner and inhib turrets at level 1 and is pretty much super relentless with trying to pull the enemy up to stop him. Then, he just suicides into the turret. I've seen a guy proxy farm at level 1, but not to this level. I thought it's brilliant and incredibly hilarious, and I have no idea how to stop it.

Post on the forums:

Seriously, this ruins PvP interaction in the laning phase as you're forced to either A) ignore the player doing this and just farm or B) try to stop him. Option A is something Riot has openly admitted they HATE (players ignoring each other in lane) and Option B is simply not viable due to how much you fall behind if you miss an entire wave of experience/CS.

Singed is the most blatant offender of this. There's currently a player who got to Diamond I by abusing this mechanic to the fullest extent possible. He begins by farming in between the enemy team's turrets at level 1, forcing the jungler to constantly gank him. Eventually he becomes worth as little gold as a blue wraith, making the difficult to kill Singed not worth killing as he continues pushing to the nexus.



Before anyone claims that this strategy is stupid and ineffective, check out the LolKing of the player I'm talking about: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/21239848#ranked-stats

As of right now, he is the highest win rate Singed in Diamond with a monstrous 70.7% win rate over 140 games played.

Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that he wins far more games than he loses with this strategy (even when he goes 1-12 he wins). The amount of pressure he exerts from doing this is just too much and requires the enemy team to commit far too many resources to prevent him from winning the game for his team.



VIDEO of this strategy being used against one of the best top laners in the world TSM Dyrus: http://www.twitch.tv/tsm_dyrus/b/409026360?t=6h7m30s

Another entertaining video, this time he farms all lanes from inside the enemy base (AT LEVEL 6): http://www.twitch.tv/robertxlee/b/409688891?t=1h30m30s

Reddit AMA and mini-guide by the creator of this strategy Druiddroid: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1epw32/iama_proxy_at_level_1_singed_that_just_reached/

This kind of game breaking stuff is what I live for ^_^

Slight exaggeration but I love this.

Wait...1.2 KDA and 8.4 deaths per game? nvm I was wrong. He is bad.


hahaha he's diamond 1 with a 71% win-ratio with his best champ
he's not only not bad, he's insanely good

It was a sneak jab about the discussion a few back where people were trying to determine how good an ally was by win rates or KDA.

Also I love Dyrus' stream. I found this gem of a song: + Show Spoiler +


I always hear songs on streams that I want to check out. How the heck did you catch what it was?
Freeeeeeedom
deathray797
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
196 Posts
May 30 2013 01:06 GMT
#3968
On May 30 2013 09:55 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 09:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm honestly surprised we have as many BW veterans as we do here that play LoL over Dota.


For every 1 serious ICCup/PGT/etc. game, there were 10 games of Sunken Defense/Minigame Party/whatever your favorite UMS was.
The one thing that both DotAers and LoLers can agree on.

Heavens last d was serious shit yo
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 30 2013 01:06 GMT
#3969
On May 30 2013 10:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 10:02 Alaric wrote:
To be fair Scarra's playing Yorick. He's asking for it.


If he were a gentleman he'd be playing Kha or Jayce, obv.

C'mon, don't diss Soniv while he's somewhere else, that's not kind. Plus, I think he'd feel more involved with the new Singed strat anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 30 2013 01:07 GMT
#3970
On May 30 2013 10:03 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 10:01 onlywonderboy wrote:
You make a good point, go figure. I guess it just seems that way since no former BW content creators decided to cover LoL and either stuck with SC2 or started covering Dota as their MOBA of choice. But LoL is still in it's infancy though, the personalities will develop.

That's because by the end of BW's life, the content creation was predominantly in the sphere of learning and competitive play. That doesn't mean that's representative of all the players, though.

I almost said something to that extent. I need to write all my thoughts lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 30 2013 01:08 GMT
#3971
On May 30 2013 10:06 deathray797 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 09:55 TheYango wrote:
On May 30 2013 09:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm honestly surprised we have as many BW veterans as we do here that play LoL over Dota.


For every 1 serious ICCup/PGT/etc. game, there were 10 games of Sunken Defense/Minigame Party/whatever your favorite UMS was.
The one thing that both DotAers and LoLers can agree on.

Heavens last d was serious shit yo


BEST FUCKING GAME MICHAEL OP
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 01:09:29
May 30 2013 01:09 GMT
#3972
brb updating Smite.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 01:10:01
May 30 2013 01:09 GMT
#3973
On May 30 2013 10:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 10:06 deathray797 wrote:
On May 30 2013 09:55 TheYango wrote:
On May 30 2013 09:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm honestly surprised we have as many BW veterans as we do here that play LoL over Dota.


For every 1 serious ICCup/PGT/etc. game, there were 10 games of Sunken Defense/Minigame Party/whatever your favorite UMS was.
The one thing that both DotAers and LoLers can agree on.

Heavens last d was serious shit yo


BEST FUCKING GAME MICHAEL OP


coming from the guy almost named asmo...

jehoel was where it was at, upgraded zealots too manly
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 30 2013 01:10 GMT
#3974
On May 30 2013 10:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 10:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 30 2013 10:06 deathray797 wrote:
On May 30 2013 09:55 TheYango wrote:
On May 30 2013 09:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm honestly surprised we have as many BW veterans as we do here that play LoL over Dota.


For every 1 serious ICCup/PGT/etc. game, there were 10 games of Sunken Defense/Minigame Party/whatever your favorite UMS was.
The one thing that both DotAers and LoLers can agree on.

Heavens last d was serious shit yo


BEST FUCKING GAME MICHAEL OP


coming from the guy almost named asmo...

jehoel was where it was at, upgraded zealots too manly


Real talk: I quit every time I had to play Hell. eff dat shit
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 01:12:34
May 30 2013 01:11 GMT
#3975
On May 30 2013 10:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 10:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
On May 30 2013 10:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 30 2013 10:06 deathray797 wrote:
On May 30 2013 09:55 TheYango wrote:
On May 30 2013 09:46 onlywonderboy wrote:
I'm honestly surprised we have as many BW veterans as we do here that play LoL over Dota.


For every 1 serious ICCup/PGT/etc. game, there were 10 games of Sunken Defense/Minigame Party/whatever your favorite UMS was.
The one thing that both DotAers and LoLers can agree on.

Heavens last d was serious shit yo


BEST FUCKING GAME MICHAEL OP


coming from the guy almost named asmo...

jehoel was where it was at, upgraded zealots too manly


Real talk: I quit every time I had to play Hell. eff dat shit


hell so fun though

hallucination is such a great spell

well, satan was kinda boring actually. you just muta micro all game.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
May 30 2013 01:11 GMT
#3976
Best BW UMS were the Golem wars/Yugioh games wtf is wrong with you people
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 30 2013 01:11 GMT
#3977
My god this singed strat.....

Trying in normals brb
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 30 2013 01:12 GMT
#3978
On May 30 2013 09:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 09:55 Alaric wrote:
Too bad Curse isn't too skilled at Smite then.


BOOM HEADSHOT!

Also, Capricious currently owning scarra on stream. #TLrepresent


By the way, wtf is with this SOTLE on every plausible champion? Isn't this what everyone predicted would happen when they came out with Machete and the buffed jungle?
Freeeeeeedom
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
May 30 2013 01:13 GMT
#3979
On May 30 2013 10:05 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 09:05 obesechicken13 wrote:
On May 30 2013 08:40 Mogwai wrote:
this has literally always been the right way to play singed.................

And Top nunu is supposed to be played with extra mana for sustain.

Riot doesn't follow their "right ways" to play a champion. Not that I've ever seen a singed play like the one against Dyrus. If they did then Singed wouldn't have lost his tenacity and Nunu much of his sustain.

On May 30 2013 08:43 gtrsrs wrote:
On May 30 2013 08:36 obesechicken13 wrote:
On May 30 2013 08:02 affinity wrote:
Have any of you seen this super deep singed proxy farming? http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3495251

The singed just starts proxy farming between inner and inhib turrets at level 1 and is pretty much super relentless with trying to pull the enemy up to stop him. Then, he just suicides into the turret. I've seen a guy proxy farm at level 1, but not to this level. I thought it's brilliant and incredibly hilarious, and I have no idea how to stop it.

Post on the forums:

Seriously, this ruins PvP interaction in the laning phase as you're forced to either A) ignore the player doing this and just farm or B) try to stop him. Option A is something Riot has openly admitted they HATE (players ignoring each other in lane) and Option B is simply not viable due to how much you fall behind if you miss an entire wave of experience/CS.

Singed is the most blatant offender of this. There's currently a player who got to Diamond I by abusing this mechanic to the fullest extent possible. He begins by farming in between the enemy team's turrets at level 1, forcing the jungler to constantly gank him. Eventually he becomes worth as little gold as a blue wraith, making the difficult to kill Singed not worth killing as he continues pushing to the nexus.



Before anyone claims that this strategy is stupid and ineffective, check out the LolKing of the player I'm talking about: http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/21239848#ranked-stats

As of right now, he is the highest win rate Singed in Diamond with a monstrous 70.7% win rate over 140 games played.

Honestly, it doesn't surprise me that he wins far more games than he loses with this strategy (even when he goes 1-12 he wins). The amount of pressure he exerts from doing this is just too much and requires the enemy team to commit far too many resources to prevent him from winning the game for his team.



VIDEO of this strategy being used against one of the best top laners in the world TSM Dyrus: http://www.twitch.tv/tsm_dyrus/b/409026360?t=6h7m30s

Another entertaining video, this time he farms all lanes from inside the enemy base (AT LEVEL 6): http://www.twitch.tv/robertxlee/b/409688891?t=1h30m30s

Reddit AMA and mini-guide by the creator of this strategy Druiddroid: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1epw32/iama_proxy_at_level_1_singed_that_just_reached/

This kind of game breaking stuff is what I live for ^_^

Slight exaggeration but I love this.

Wait...1.2 KDA and 8.4 deaths per game? nvm I was wrong. He is bad.


hahaha he's diamond 1 with a 71% win-ratio with his best champ
he's not only not bad, he's insanely good

It was a sneak jab about the discussion a few back where people were trying to determine how good an ally was by win rates or KDA.

Also I love Dyrus' stream. I found this gem of a song: + Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHEOF_rcND8


I always hear songs on streams that I want to check out. How the heck did you catch what it was?

he uses pandora and pandora cycles through the same songs for different stations. I recognize them because I've already heard on them on my pandora station.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 30 2013 01:14 GMT
#3980
scarra: i think i can take this guy

*dies in 2 seconds*

dem pro instincts man.
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