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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 18 2013 03:53 GMT
#761
On January 18 2013 12:05 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 11:57 UniversalSnip wrote:
Well obviously beacuse koreans read tl.lol and use everything we talk about. Yango theorized about an adc building warmogs third to counter ad assasin meta and the VERY NEXT DAY we saw it in OGN.

That or yango secretly is a korean pro lol gamer. Would believe the second more likely TBH.


I'd be more willing to believe craton is morello and guitar is phantomlord than that.

And Roffles is Saint Vicious?

No, I would be SV and just telling everyone how great I was.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
January 18 2013 03:59 GMT
#762
On January 18 2013 12:27 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 09:08 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Destiny should report them for breach of contract and failure to pay wages. If he can get the contract voided on the grounds that own3d violated it first, he won't be liable to pay them shit. 6 months late on payments is fucking absurd. This shit goes to court when people haven't been paid after just 2 weeks.

Also you people should take business law (contract law) regardless of what you are being educated for. Hell Sears tried to rip my dad off for about 40 bucks because he didn't know any better.

'cause the world needs more armchair lawyers. I've seen firsthand just how worthless a lot of civil law is with trying to get bills paid. There's a large difference between going to court, winning in court, and actually getting paid.

As I said in the other destiny thread, IF Own3d is a registered corporation in Austria (which they allegedly are, frankly I can't be bothered to check) no there is not. A large difference between going to court and winning in court I mean.

This part of our law system is VERY static, almost any law student can tell you within 5 minutes of looking at a case how the judge is going to decide. The question is fairly simple: a) does a debt exist? b) can it be proven?. In destiny's case those two seem to be fairly clear (he has not posted his full contract, but it seems to exist. Proving that Own3d has not fullfilled their obligation is usually done by providing the court your bank records). If that is as he has described suing them here is literally a formality.

The only thing that might create a problem is if Own3d is truly unable to pay, that would lead to an execution of their assets, and frankly would get messy and might take a while, but let's be serious here, Own3d most likely has between 100k and 1m € invested in infrastructure of one kind or another, do you honestly think they would risk execution by the courts for the 10k or so they might owe destiny?
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
January 18 2013 04:00 GMT
#763
On January 18 2013 12:36 Craton wrote:
I hate the kid, so I couldn't care less. I'm not going to condemn Own3D over not paying one douchebag. Even if CLG is changing partners, it's far more likely because Azubu is willing to pay big money than it is because of grievances with Own3D.

Azubu is a Korean entity trying to break into the western market and they need an extremely visible entity to do so. Given the strength and size of CLG's franchise and CLG's ties with Korea (they very likely have much stronger ties than any other western team), it's really no surprise that Azubu would pursue them and that Hotshot would jump at the chance.

There's obviously a lot more involved with the whole situation.

Dimaga is also on the record announcing that he has been screwed by own3d as well. Look at how quickly CLG.Eu swapped over to twitch after they lost the CLG tag. Basically every streamer that does it for a living that was once on own3d has switched.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 18 2013 04:04 GMT
#764
On January 18 2013 11:55 Alaric wrote:
It's 'k, MoonBear caught Dignitas' attention at least twice in the writing team's tourney write-ups, doing the same with KT B or Azubu Frost is only a question of time.


I am pretty sure scarra reads every article written by TL.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
January 18 2013 04:08 GMT
#765
for everyone that loved him during the LCS, cris is streaming right now
i'm gonna have him start a streaming thread here and give his input on everything in the forum but for now

www.twitch.tv/lolcris
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
January 18 2013 04:10 GMT
#766
On January 18 2013 13:00 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 12:36 Craton wrote:
I hate the kid, so I couldn't care less. I'm not going to condemn Own3D over not paying one douchebag. Even if CLG is changing partners, it's far more likely because Azubu is willing to pay big money than it is because of grievances with Own3D.

Azubu is a Korean entity trying to break into the western market and they need an extremely visible entity to do so. Given the strength and size of CLG's franchise and CLG's ties with Korea (they very likely have much stronger ties than any other western team), it's really no surprise that Azubu would pursue them and that Hotshot would jump at the chance.

There's obviously a lot more involved with the whole situation.

Dimaga is also on the record announcing that he has been screwed by own3d as well. Look at how quickly CLG.Eu swapped over to twitch after they lost the CLG tag. Basically every streamer that does it for a living that was once on own3d has switched.


Not a fan either but being happy that someone is being screwed over effecting ones life and his earnings is.. disturbingly hateful.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17288 Posts
January 18 2013 04:12 GMT
#767
On January 18 2013 13:10 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 13:00 Irave wrote:
On January 18 2013 12:36 Craton wrote:
I hate the kid, so I couldn't care less. I'm not going to condemn Own3D over not paying one douchebag. Even if CLG is changing partners, it's far more likely because Azubu is willing to pay big money than it is because of grievances with Own3D.

Azubu is a Korean entity trying to break into the western market and they need an extremely visible entity to do so. Given the strength and size of CLG's franchise and CLG's ties with Korea (they very likely have much stronger ties than any other western team), it's really no surprise that Azubu would pursue them and that Hotshot would jump at the chance.

There's obviously a lot more involved with the whole situation.

Dimaga is also on the record announcing that he has been screwed by own3d as well. Look at how quickly CLG.Eu swapped over to twitch after they lost the CLG tag. Basically every streamer that does it for a living that was once on own3d has switched.


Not a fan either but being happy that someone is being screwed over effecting ones life and his earnings is.. disturbingly hateful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude
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hasuprotoss
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States4664 Posts
January 18 2013 04:18 GMT
#768
On January 18 2013 13:00 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 12:36 Craton wrote:
I hate the kid, so I couldn't care less. I'm not going to condemn Own3D over not paying one douchebag. Even if CLG is changing partners, it's far more likely because Azubu is willing to pay big money than it is because of grievances with Own3D.

Azubu is a Korean entity trying to break into the western market and they need an extremely visible entity to do so. Given the strength and size of CLG's franchise and CLG's ties with Korea (they very likely have much stronger ties than any other western team), it's really no surprise that Azubu would pursue them and that Hotshot would jump at the chance.

There's obviously a lot more involved with the whole situation.

Dimaga is also on the record announcing that he has been screwed by own3d as well. Look at how quickly CLG.Eu swapped over to twitch after they lost the CLG tag. Basically every streamer that does it for a living that was once on own3d has switched.


I want to say that TSM as well switched to Twitch because they weren't getting paid by own3d as well.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?viewdays=0&show_part=5 <--- Articles Section on TL
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
January 18 2013 04:23 GMT
#769
On January 18 2013 13:12 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 13:10 Parnage wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:00 Irave wrote:
On January 18 2013 12:36 Craton wrote:
I hate the kid, so I couldn't care less. I'm not going to condemn Own3D over not paying one douchebag. Even if CLG is changing partners, it's far more likely because Azubu is willing to pay big money than it is because of grievances with Own3D.

Azubu is a Korean entity trying to break into the western market and they need an extremely visible entity to do so. Given the strength and size of CLG's franchise and CLG's ties with Korea (they very likely have much stronger ties than any other western team), it's really no surprise that Azubu would pursue them and that Hotshot would jump at the chance.

There's obviously a lot more involved with the whole situation.

Dimaga is also on the record announcing that he has been screwed by own3d as well. Look at how quickly CLG.Eu swapped over to twitch after they lost the CLG tag. Basically every streamer that does it for a living that was once on own3d has switched.


Not a fan either but being happy that someone is being screwed over effecting ones life and his earnings is.. disturbingly hateful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude

Whats the one for having elo in a signature, and calling someone a douchebag/kid in two sentences?
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 04:41:16
January 18 2013 04:38 GMT
#770
On January 18 2013 13:18 hasuprotoss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 13:00 Irave wrote:
On January 18 2013 12:36 Craton wrote:
I hate the kid, so I couldn't care less. I'm not going to condemn Own3D over not paying one douchebag. Even if CLG is changing partners, it's far more likely because Azubu is willing to pay big money than it is because of grievances with Own3D.

Azubu is a Korean entity trying to break into the western market and they need an extremely visible entity to do so. Given the strength and size of CLG's franchise and CLG's ties with Korea (they very likely have much stronger ties than any other western team), it's really no surprise that Azubu would pursue them and that Hotshot would jump at the chance.

There's obviously a lot more involved with the whole situation.

Dimaga is also on the record announcing that he has been screwed by own3d as well. Look at how quickly CLG.Eu swapped over to twitch after they lost the CLG tag. Basically every streamer that does it for a living that was once on own3d has switched.


I want to say that TSM as well switched to Twitch because they weren't getting paid by own3d as well.


Yes, one of the main reasons was that(own3d did not pay in time) from what I recall as well. I mean it's a big deal that CLG is leaving Own3d. CLG was the team that pretty much put own3d on the map with LoL players.

For example, I remember Dyrus getting some heat for saying this reason, which was something along the lines of own3d was months late in paying him.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 04:54:56
January 18 2013 04:51 GMT
#771
On January 18 2013 13:23 Irave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 13:12 Craton wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:10 Parnage wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:00 Irave wrote:
On January 18 2013 12:36 Craton wrote:
I hate the kid, so I couldn't care less. I'm not going to condemn Own3D over not paying one douchebag. Even if CLG is changing partners, it's far more likely because Azubu is willing to pay big money than it is because of grievances with Own3D.

Azubu is a Korean entity trying to break into the western market and they need an extremely visible entity to do so. Given the strength and size of CLG's franchise and CLG's ties with Korea (they very likely have much stronger ties than any other western team), it's really no surprise that Azubu would pursue them and that Hotshot would jump at the chance.

There's obviously a lot more involved with the whole situation.

Dimaga is also on the record announcing that he has been screwed by own3d as well. Look at how quickly CLG.Eu swapped over to twitch after they lost the CLG tag. Basically every streamer that does it for a living that was once on own3d has switched.


Not a fan either but being happy that someone is being screwed over effecting ones life and his earnings is.. disturbingly hateful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude

Whats the one for having elo in a signature, and calling someone a douchebag/kid in two sentences?


IRAVE PULLS NO PUNCHES.

To continue the dumbasshood we're starting up around here, can I be the guy who says everything on wikipedia is wrong because anyone can edit it? Where did those people all go? I missed that argument.
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BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
January 18 2013 04:56 GMT
#772
LoL Login Music doesn't get enough credit.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
January 18 2013 04:57 GMT
#773
On January 18 2013 13:51 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 13:23 Irave wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:12 Craton wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:10 Parnage wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:00 Irave wrote:
On January 18 2013 12:36 Craton wrote:
I hate the kid, so I couldn't care less. I'm not going to condemn Own3D over not paying one douchebag. Even if CLG is changing partners, it's far more likely because Azubu is willing to pay big money than it is because of grievances with Own3D.

Azubu is a Korean entity trying to break into the western market and they need an extremely visible entity to do so. Given the strength and size of CLG's franchise and CLG's ties with Korea (they very likely have much stronger ties than any other western team), it's really no surprise that Azubu would pursue them and that Hotshot would jump at the chance.

There's obviously a lot more involved with the whole situation.

Dimaga is also on the record announcing that he has been screwed by own3d as well. Look at how quickly CLG.Eu swapped over to twitch after they lost the CLG tag. Basically every streamer that does it for a living that was once on own3d has switched.


Not a fan either but being happy that someone is being screwed over effecting ones life and his earnings is.. disturbingly hateful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude

Whats the one for having elo in a signature, and calling someone a douchebag/kid in two sentences?


IRAVE PULLS NO PUNCHES.

To continue the dumbasshood we're starting up around here, can I be the guy who says everything on wikipedia is wrong because anyone can edit it? Where did those people all go? I missed that argument.


That's a very random thing to bring up. How does this relate exactly?
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 05:01:32
January 18 2013 04:59 GMT
#774
On January 18 2013 13:57 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 13:51 Zdrastochye wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:23 Irave wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:12 Craton wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:10 Parnage wrote:
On January 18 2013 13:00 Irave wrote:
On January 18 2013 12:36 Craton wrote:
I hate the kid, so I couldn't care less. I'm not going to condemn Own3D over not paying one douchebag. Even if CLG is changing partners, it's far more likely because Azubu is willing to pay big money than it is because of grievances with Own3D.

Azubu is a Korean entity trying to break into the western market and they need an extremely visible entity to do so. Given the strength and size of CLG's franchise and CLG's ties with Korea (they very likely have much stronger ties than any other western team), it's really no surprise that Azubu would pursue them and that Hotshot would jump at the chance.

There's obviously a lot more involved with the whole situation.

Dimaga is also on the record announcing that he has been screwed by own3d as well. Look at how quickly CLG.Eu swapped over to twitch after they lost the CLG tag. Basically every streamer that does it for a living that was once on own3d has switched.


Not a fan either but being happy that someone is being screwed over effecting ones life and his earnings is.. disturbingly hateful.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude

Whats the one for having elo in a signature, and calling someone a douchebag/kid in two sentences?


IRAVE PULLS NO PUNCHES.

To continue the dumbasshood we're starting up around here, can I be the guy who says everything on wikipedia is wrong because anyone can edit it? Where did those people all go? I missed that argument.


That's a very random thing to bring up. How does this relate exactly?


If you have as much brain damage as I do, it does. It certainly does.

But no, Craton linked Schadenfreude on a wikipedia article. One could simply dispute that it's not a correct portrayal of the situation here.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 18 2013 05:10 GMT
#775
http://www.twitch.tv/phantoml0rd

Goats v FXO

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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 05:15:30
January 18 2013 05:10 GMT
#776
Navi playing jungle Mumu with Bischu mid against Phantom Lords team. On PL's stream. Ranked 5's.

On January 18 2013 14:10 NeoIllusions wrote:
http://www.twitch.tv/phantoml0rd

Goats v FXO


Were you watching earlier when Jaximus finally figured out that PL could be easily banned out? Resulting in PL to have his feelings hurt.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
January 18 2013 05:17 GMT
#777
Why FXO never streams? :<
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 18 2013 05:24 GMT
#778
PL's team going down after a strong start. They'll be behind midgame for sure. They might even be out of this if the other team plays intelligently.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 18 2013 05:27 GMT
#779
Vi's fixes are so good! Well, at least the E ones. Never had a problem with her ult, and I suck at using Q so I fail whether or not it's fixed, can't tell. :<
But yay, E so good! It helps not only her farming and standing dps, but also her ganks (still have to play her top more than once) when you have to chase your target.

On January 18 2013 12:32 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 12:14 Alaric wrote:
Not a fan of the Kayle login screen. But the visual style reminds me a lof of Jayce's, which I didn't like either.


It's cause the proportions are all wrong for her. The armor/bust are is so huge while her head/waist is seriously is so so small.

Not even that, just the face. There's the fact that it reminds me a bit of Lux's current splash art (which is simply awkward) and also the similarity to Jayce in terms of visual style (when he came out I think somebody pointed out that it was close to US cartoons' style and that it went prretty well with Jayce's archetype. Sounded sensible, but didn't make me like him for all that ).

On January 18 2013 12:36 Craton wrote:
I hate the kid, so I couldn't care less. I'm not going to condemn Own3D over not paying one douchebag. Even if CLG is changing partners, it's far more likely because Azubu is willing to pay big money than it is because of grievances with Own3D.

Azubu is a Korean entity trying to break into the western market and they need an extremely visible entity to do so. Given the strength and size of CLG's franchise and CLG's ties with Korea (they very likely have much stronger ties than any other western team), it's really no surprise that Azubu would pursue them and that Hotshot would jump at the chance.

There's obviously a lot more involved with the whole situation.

For all I know isn't Azubu related to a German bank rather than a Korean company?
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Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-18 05:36:00
January 18 2013 05:28 GMT
#780
16 minute inhib for FXO, based on the environment of PL's skype call, they're having trouble with synergy. Aka they have none.

6-21, 23 minute PL's team throws out the GGs, can't yet surrender due to failed surrender vote earlier. Kinda unfun game to watch.
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