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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 27 2012 22:57 GMT
#3441
On December 28 2012 07:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 03:00 Parnage wrote:
I am kind of annoyed by the Santa baron icon, mostly because being the good little summoner that I am I've still yet to receive it. I've accepted it but it does confuse me as to why I was not given such.


I don't have Santa Baron either. :<
But I'm using my Beta Rammus anyways. :D


OG Show Off.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
December 27 2012 22:59 GMT
#3442
On December 28 2012 07:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 03:00 Parnage wrote:
I am kind of annoyed by the Santa baron icon, mostly because being the good little summoner that I am I've still yet to receive it. I've accepted it but it does confuse me as to why I was not given such.


I don't have Santa Baron either. :<
But I'm using my Beta Rammus anyways. :D

This BM Neo mods us all when he's a bad person himself.

GG. We got fucked by TL.
God Bless
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 27 2012 23:08 GMT
#3443
We live in a world of hypocrisy.

Take that Roffles!
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 27 2012 23:28 GMT
#3444
We need to make a ranked team exclusively for Santa Baron icon holders :D
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
December 27 2012 23:32 GMT
#3445
On December 28 2012 07:44 Requizen wrote:
I've been sporting my Santa Baron just for you all, TL.

:D


Is Santa Baron really that rare?

I have it, but I thought it was fairly simple to obtain since most of my close friends have it as well :S
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 27 2012 23:36 GMT
#3446
On December 28 2012 06:39 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 06:32 AsnSensation wrote:
On December 28 2012 05:45 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 28 2012 05:38 AsnSensation wrote:
On December 28 2012 05:28 Sufficiency wrote:
Absolute Legend got dropped lol. Bad PR move by Zekent to admit it imo.


what do you mean admit, they were stupid enough that somehow a screenshot of the skype convo was leaked, would you recommend to stay silent and deny it?


I saw the screenshots. All I saw was Unstoppable cheating, not the whole team.

Unstoppable, as far as I know, is not even an official member of aL. Zekent could have claimed that aL had no knowledge of the incident. Sure, we can reasonably deduce that the entire aL are involved even if Zekent did not admit to it (because haters gonna hate), but to admit it is a HUGE betrayal of the fans of aL.


http://ggchronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/al-ghosting-21.jpg

read again..


welp.

Good riddance aL.



oh look, wetdreams team is cheating, what a surprise.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-27 23:42:37
December 27 2012 23:38 GMT
#3447
Neo's a good man don't hate,he's the only thing that stand between me,that gmarshal and a long term ban.
Cackle™
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 27 2012 23:42 GMT
#3448
On December 28 2012 08:36 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 06:39 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 28 2012 06:32 AsnSensation wrote:
On December 28 2012 05:45 Sufficiency wrote:
On December 28 2012 05:38 AsnSensation wrote:
On December 28 2012 05:28 Sufficiency wrote:
Absolute Legend got dropped lol. Bad PR move by Zekent to admit it imo.


what do you mean admit, they were stupid enough that somehow a screenshot of the skype convo was leaked, would you recommend to stay silent and deny it?


I saw the screenshots. All I saw was Unstoppable cheating, not the whole team.

Unstoppable, as far as I know, is not even an official member of aL. Zekent could have claimed that aL had no knowledge of the incident. Sure, we can reasonably deduce that the entire aL are involved even if Zekent did not admit to it (because haters gonna hate), but to admit it is a HUGE betrayal of the fans of aL.


http://ggchronicle.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/al-ghosting-21.jpg

read again..


welp.

Good riddance aL.



oh look, wetdreams team is cheating, what a surprise.


lol... to be fair, what aL.na did has nothing to do with wetdream.
Kinda amusing coincidence though. haha
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
December 27 2012 23:48 GMT
#3449
Has anyone any experience with LoL and windows 8? I resetup my computer today and decided to try out Win8 and have some really weird laggs, while I had absolutely 0 problems under win7. My system is relatively up to date and High end, so it's gotta either be Win8 or EUW is just lagging atm which I'm questioning since nobody complained about it in the game just now^^.
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
December 27 2012 23:48 GMT
#3450
azingy jungle leona
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 27 2012 23:51 GMT
#3451
On December 28 2012 07:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 03:00 Parnage wrote:
I am kind of annoyed by the Santa baron icon, mostly because being the good little summoner that I am I've still yet to receive it. I've accepted it but it does confuse me as to why I was not given such.


I don't have Santa Baron either. :<
But I'm using my Beta Rammus anyways. :D



I'd be more impressed if it was a Master Yi icon.

*sunglasses* Wuju think Riot would of put one in by now.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 28 2012 00:18 GMT
#3452
On December 28 2012 06:27 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 05:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
the ideas are horrible lol. Statement to the tribunal? Your conduct in game is your statement, if that's not good enough to sway the jury stop being such a bitch. Being told that somebody just reported me? That's REALLY not a good idea. Imagine a new player to the game jumps in, he sees the little TIP: REPORT PEOPLE AND WE'LL BAN THEM, then a dude in his game flames and rages and reports everyone. If i were them i'd conclude the trolls are armed in this game. I mean, jeez, it already freaks newbies out when people claim to be reporting them. Luckily people almost never follow through because there's no incentive for them to do so, but this would let them squeeze that extra little bit of harassment out of a game.


I don't see how being able to make a statement to the tribunal would be a "horrible idea". Being able to defend oneself is an important part of a just punishment system. At the moment, the accuser could basically lie about anything that would not be seen in the logs. For example, if someone starts flaming in the postgame lobby, or obviously trolls in the pregame lobby, i will state that in the report with a description or quote of what they said. I am pretty sure that the people judging the tribunal do not completely ignore such a statement. I am a honest person, thus i only write stuff in there that is actually true. However, someone could very well just make up random shit, and the accused would be unable to respond in any way to that.

I have never been banned or warned by the Tribunal, and i don't fear that it will happen because i know that my behaviour in game does not warrant it. However, i fail to see how transparency and a right to defend yourself could ever be a bad idea.


cuz it's a joke. this isn't a just punishment system, as far as I can tell it isn't designed to be, it's intended to get toxic people out of the game, or to shut up, for the benefit of the rest of us. Strictly utilitarian, just making the game better, not satisfying abstract principles like a legal system is supposed to. Just by statistical means like requiring a large number of reports from credible reporters and requiring multiple cases for even a temp ban they seem to have gotten the false positive rate to a level I'm more than comfortable with, once that's the case I'm happy to take a hit to some nebulous measure of fairness in favor of efficiency.

Allowing players to defend themselves is literally one of the worst possible methods of dealing with the problem you cite.

- It hangs up the tribunal because now every case has to wait a period of time that allows the person under examination to reply before they can be judged.

- it doesn't actually solve the problem which is that people who troll pre/postgame AREN'T being judged guilty - it actually has completely the opposite effect and exacerbates the issue.

- it means that innocent people can now see when they are in the tribunal (DISASTER) and will feel pressured to defend themselves (nightmare scenario. the way this will read is that you get an email that, to them, effectively says "explain yourself now or be banned").

- not to mention it doesn't work efficiently with people who act properly but have poor english skills.

The proper way to handle pre/postgame trolling is to add the pre/post chat logs to the tribunal, which I am certain they will do eventually. Makes no sense to implement some awful system where you try to act as your own lawyer to sway the tribunal voters. The game is recorded, they check the recording and vote on whether you're a jerk, you don't need representation for this process cuz it aint law.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
December 28 2012 00:34 GMT
#3453
Did they do something to Jarvan IV in the last week or so? I just played a game with him and way more of my EQ combos did not connect than normal. And not the ones where a wall pushes it out of range, ones in the lane where there's no way I wasn't in range. Didn't get that kind of stuff in the other 40+ J4 games I played the few weeks before.
3.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 28 2012 00:40 GMT
#3454
Watching wings play Xerath then read his chat and everyone is saying how cool Xerath is as if they have never seen it before. Kind of sad how fotm our community is :<
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
December 28 2012 00:44 GMT
#3455
Well...my jimmies are rustled
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15jebv/my_name_is_nick_allen_and_i_am_the_league_of/c7n0ip6

With Riot's Season 3 plans, IPL6 will look vastly different. With that being said, I am not sure the IPL5 level of competition will be seen again until Season 3 World Champs.


IPL5 was easily one of the most enjoyable tournaments of 2012, sucks that we aren't going to see anything like that for a very very long time.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 28 2012 00:47 GMT
#3456
On December 28 2012 09:18 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 06:27 Simberto wrote:
On December 28 2012 05:27 UniversalSnip wrote:
the ideas are horrible lol. Statement to the tribunal? Your conduct in game is your statement, if that's not good enough to sway the jury stop being such a bitch. Being told that somebody just reported me? That's REALLY not a good idea. Imagine a new player to the game jumps in, he sees the little TIP: REPORT PEOPLE AND WE'LL BAN THEM, then a dude in his game flames and rages and reports everyone. If i were them i'd conclude the trolls are armed in this game. I mean, jeez, it already freaks newbies out when people claim to be reporting them. Luckily people almost never follow through because there's no incentive for them to do so, but this would let them squeeze that extra little bit of harassment out of a game.


I don't see how being able to make a statement to the tribunal would be a "horrible idea". Being able to defend oneself is an important part of a just punishment system. At the moment, the accuser could basically lie about anything that would not be seen in the logs. For example, if someone starts flaming in the postgame lobby, or obviously trolls in the pregame lobby, i will state that in the report with a description or quote of what they said. I am pretty sure that the people judging the tribunal do not completely ignore such a statement. I am a honest person, thus i only write stuff in there that is actually true. However, someone could very well just make up random shit, and the accused would be unable to respond in any way to that.

I have never been banned or warned by the Tribunal, and i don't fear that it will happen because i know that my behaviour in game does not warrant it. However, i fail to see how transparency and a right to defend yourself could ever be a bad idea.


cuz it's a joke. this isn't a just punishment system, as far as I can tell it isn't designed to be, it's intended to get toxic people out of the game, or to shut up, for the benefit of the rest of us. Strictly utilitarian, just making the game better, not satisfying abstract principles like a legal system is supposed to. Just by statistical means like requiring a large number of reports from credible reporters and requiring multiple cases for even a temp ban they seem to have gotten the false positive rate to a level I'm more than comfortable with, once that's the case I'm happy to take a hit to some nebulous measure of fairness in favor of efficiency.

Allowing players to defend themselves is literally one of the worst possible methods of dealing with the problem you cite.

- It hangs up the tribunal because now every case has to wait a period of time that allows the person under examination to reply before they can be judged.

- it doesn't actually solve the problem which is that people who troll pre/postgame AREN'T being judged guilty - it actually has completely the opposite effect and exacerbates the issue.

- it means that innocent people can now see when they are in the tribunal (DISASTER) and will feel pressured to defend themselves (nightmare scenario. the way this will read is that you get an email that, to them, effectively says "explain yourself now or be banned").

- not to mention it doesn't work efficiently with people who act properly but have poor english skills.

The proper way to handle pre/postgame trolling is to add the pre/post chat logs to the tribunal, which I am certain they will do eventually. Makes no sense to implement some awful system where you try to act as your own lawyer to sway the tribunal voters. The game is recorded, they check the recording and vote on whether you're a jerk, you don't need representation for this process cuz it aint law.


Innocent people SHOULD see when they are in the tribunal, even if they need not defend themselves. This can let them counter-report people who reported for nonsense. or let them see what is pissing people off (even if its not punished).
Freeeeeeedom
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 00:54:15
December 28 2012 00:53 GMT
#3457
On December 28 2012 09:44 nojitosunrise wrote:
Well...my jimmies are rustled
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15jebv/my_name_is_nick_allen_and_i_am_the_league_of/c7n0ip6

Show nested quote +
With Riot's Season 3 plans, IPL6 will look vastly different. With that being said, I am not sure the IPL5 level of competition will be seen again until Season 3 World Champs.


IPL5 was easily one of the most enjoyable tournaments of 2012, sucks that we aren't going to see anything like that for a very very long time.


I thought everyone knew that was what was going to happen with the Riot Season 3 stuff. All the top teams are Riot teams and they only play in Riot events.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
December 28 2012 00:55 GMT
#3458
On December 28 2012 09:53 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2012 09:44 nojitosunrise wrote:
Well...my jimmies are rustled
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/15jebv/my_name_is_nick_allen_and_i_am_the_league_of/c7n0ip6

With Riot's Season 3 plans, IPL6 will look vastly different. With that being said, I am not sure the IPL5 level of competition will be seen again until Season 3 World Champs.


IPL5 was easily one of the most enjoyable tournaments of 2012, sucks that we aren't going to see anything like that for a very very long time.


I thought everyone knew that was what was going to happen with the Riot Season 3 stuff. All the top teams are Riot teams and they only play in Riot events.


doesn't make our jimmies any less rustled :\
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-28 00:57:32
December 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#3459
Yea but your jimmies are being rustled rather late Should have been rustled when this was first known! Can't do much about it now if you wanted I guess. Not saying something needs to be done though.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 28 2012 01:07 GMT
#3460
On December 28 2012 09:40 Numy wrote:
Watching wings play Xerath then read his chat and everyone is saying how cool Xerath is as if they have never seen it before. Kind of sad how fotm our community is :<

all communities have their bandwagons

in american football, the spread offense became fotm in college and the wildcat offense became fotm at the pro level.

not like it matters anyway though, just play whatever you wanna play
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