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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 26 2012 18:02 kongoline wrote: hes playing smurf vs low elo people, that kassadin dying 1v1 to full hp anivia lvl2 was pathetic True, but I am willing to wager that 1500 Elo KR >>> 1500 Elo NA. | ||
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kongoline
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On December 26 2012 18:06 Sufficiency wrote: True, but I am willing to wager that 1500 Elo KR >>> 1500 Elo NA. judging by the games i've seen i'd say people are similarly atrocious on both servers | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 26 2012 18:11 kongoline wrote: judging by the games i've seen i'd say people are similarly atrocious on both servers Sure, if you lane against a top level pro mid laner you will look bad. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Btw, Rapidstar is playing Noc mid on OGN right now. | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
On December 26 2012 18:52 Sufficiency wrote: Sigh. With Diana gibbed, I need a new counterpick against Katarina. After playing the match up quite a few times on both sides, I feel that Mordekaiser is a bit too unreliable as a counterpick. Probably need to seriously start practicing Ahri/Swain. Btw, Rapidstar is playing Noc mid on OGN right now. Ahri loses to Kat every time. Dunno bout Swain. Cho'Gath mid beats all assassins, AD or AP. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 26 2012 19:10 Irave wrote: I've had some success against Kat as Annie. Always pressure with the fear of the stun, decent auto attack range too. Relatively good push to punish her if she feels like roaming more than you. I tried it before. It's absolutely terrible. If you have stun up, Kat can just poke you. If you don't have stun up, Kat can do free EQW (R) combo. But just in case maybe I will ask for damionwings' opinion on this. On December 26 2012 19:04 Dusty wrote: Ahri loses to Kat every time. Dunno bout Swain. Cho'Gath mid beats all assassins, AD or AP. Perhaps. I probably need to try the Ahri vs Kat match up a bit more. My understanding is that it's not that bad if Ahri maxes W first. I could be terribly wrong. Chogath should absolutely crush Katarina in lane, but I find it a bit too cheesy. The other choices I am considering are Akali and Rumble. Akali should crush Katarina post-6, but I am not sure if I enjoy playing Akali at all. I theorycraft that mid Rumble should out-trade Katarina really hard... but I need to actually try to play the match up. I will know in time. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On December 26 2012 18:52 Sufficiency wrote: Sigh. With Diana gibbed, I need a new counterpick against Katarina. After playing the match up quite a few times on both sides, I feel that Mordekaiser is a bit too unreliable as a counterpick. Probably need to seriously start practicing Ahri/Swain. Btw, Rapidstar is playing Noc mid on OGN right now. Swain beats her pretty hard, even had one go all in on me at 6 earlier, bird power so strong. also spamming e + auto attacks during entire lane phase pretty good. she cant shunpo to you or she eats a full Q on top of an e + auto attack spam. pretty firm in swains favor imo | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 26 2012 19:24 Irave wrote: That pretty much sums up playing against her on any champion. Annie just has the upside of having the damage interrupt with a good possibility of winning a 1v1. I guess to be really annoying and shut her down more in lane, you could just Fiddlesticks. Yeah I know for a fact that I can outplay Annies around my level as Katarina. It's actually not that hard. Just need to max Q first. Btw, Katarina's Q actually outrange Annie's Q by 50. Tiensinoakuma's guide actually suggests Soraka as a possible counter (http://www.lolpro.com/guides/katarina/132-katarina-build-guide-mid-lane-by-tiensinoakuma). Interesting.... something else to try! | ||
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bmn
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 26 2012 19:32 bmn wrote: I've usually found Malz does really well against Kat. Outpush her all day or harrass if she goes to cs, and once both of you have ult she has to be very careful about just getting in range of you. I am familiar with this match up from Katarina's side and I agree he counters Katarina pretty hard. Unfortunately I don't even have Malzahar..... also my understanding is that he is actually pretty tricky to learn and play. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On December 26 2012 19:33 Sufficiency wrote: I am familiar with this match up from Katarina's side and I agree he counters Katarina pretty hard. Unfortunately I don't even have Malzahar..... Swain dawg, Swain. | ||
Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21245 Posts
its especially easy since they fixed the w cast so you can actually WR instantly now. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Truth be told my lasthitting with Swain is so bad it's downright embarrassing. A lot of practice will be needed. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
Also, Viktor wrecks Kat AMA | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 26 2012 19:45 Cloud9157 wrote: I'd imagine Cassie could at least break even with Kat. Also, Viktor wrecks Kat AMA I am not brave enough to play Cassiopeia vs Katarina T_T way too many opportunities for a Katarina to outplay me if I play Cassiopeia. Katarina has an instant gapcloser AND a large MS steroid. On December 26 2012 19:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: malzahar is like the easiest champ you spam e and WR ppl who try to hard engage you its especially easy since they fixed the w cast so you can actually WR instantly now. Hmmm.... ok maybe I should buy him... | ||
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
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