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On December 26 2012 09:41 Slusher wrote: I still remember the day that Loci came in and laid the smack down on people doubting Dan.
That was simply as a captain, not a player. I still don't think Dan can compete with other top (read: even NA, not going to even speak of International) junglers unless he really practices a certain pool of champs on the new S3 patch.
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On December 26 2012 09:41 Slusher wrote: I still remember the day that Loci came in and laid the smack down on people doubting Dan. He can say whatever he wants. Dan's (poor) results in tournies and solo queue are pretty telling.
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Dan should coach that team, not play for it.
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On December 26 2012 08:34 Dandel Ion wrote: This subforum is finished. You guys are discussing tier lists.
GG Traditional sports have power rankings, not much different here.
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SO can we also have EU tierlist?
The teams i think are gonna make it:
Millennium / Fnatic / +3 (have no idea)
contenders: aaa (going high alle online tourney's) Copehagen Wolves (doing good lately) Acer (hope citizenwayne is gonna do the magic)
Who are gonna fail miserably: aTn (3k ELO doesnt do that well in teamgames) Crs.EU (Their teamcrisis made them unstable) MYM (1trick pony mid player cant really play any other mid good then katarina)
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I'd bet money on Wolves making it. They're doing really well atm.
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On December 26 2012 10:12 ExoFun wrote: SO can we also have EU tierlist?
The teams i think are gonna make it:
Millennium / Fnatic / +3 (have no idea) In no particular order ALTERNATE, Copenhagen Wolves, and MYM come to mind.
Edit: Also I'm skeptic about Curse.EU considering the massive roster change, it's pretty much a whole new team at this point.
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zzz
You guys know there is no Crs.eu anymore? -o-
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I don't know much about EU. But you obviously have the big 4 CLG, SK, M5 and Fnatic. The other four, maybe MYM , Acer, and Wolves with a surprise team coming from the ladder portion.
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On December 26 2012 10:27 NeoIllusions wrote: zzz
You guys know there is no Crs.eu anymore? -o- You know that they are rebuilding it?
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On December 26 2012 10:30 ExoFun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2012 10:27 NeoIllusions wrote: zzz
You guys know there is no Crs.eu anymore? -o- You know that they are rebuilding it?
They're rebuilding but will they be in time for the qualifiers? All we heard from liquid was that they will start the process after the holidays.
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On December 26 2012 10:29 Irave wrote: I don't know much about EU. But you obviously have the big 4 CLG, SK, M5 and Fnatic. The other four, maybe MYM , Acer, and Wolves with a surprise team coming from the ladder portion.
From recent tourneys Wolves are looking much stronger than both MYM and Acer imo.
Edit: For those wondering what tournaments I'm talking about: http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/THOR_Open_2012 http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Eclypsia_Christmas_Cup http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/NorthCon_eSport_Arena_2012
In THOR Open they beat Alternate and Mouz, in Northcon they beat Acer and in Eclypsia Cup they beat Giants and MYM. Basically they haven't played that many tournaments but the only teams they've dropped BoX's to in notable tournaments are Clg.EU and Fnatic.
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On December 26 2012 08:34 Dandel Ion wrote: This subforum is finished. You guys are discussing tier lists.
GG We are next level meta-tier listing
On December 26 2012 09:41 Slusher wrote: I still remember the day that Loci came in and laid the smack down on people doubting Dan. Dyrus has told me in 1v1 RL conversations that Dan is the reason that every team he (Dan) has been on was ever remotely successful.
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Dan prolly has a lot of intangibles as to what he brings to a team. Ability to get teams together to practice/scrim, making calls, etc etc. It's just tough to judge his ability as a player, when his skills in game seems to be lacking.
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On December 26 2012 10:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2012 08:34 Dandel Ion wrote: This subforum is finished. You guys are discussing tier lists.
GG We are next level meta-tier listing Show nested quote +On December 26 2012 09:41 Slusher wrote: I still remember the day that Loci came in and laid the smack down on people doubting Dan. Dyrus has told me in 1v1 RL conversations that Dan is the reason that every team he (Dan) has been on was ever remotely successful. Dan is the only person I would ever say could come close to Chauster in terms of knowledge of how to win games n shit.
The problem is he always gimped himself by never doing even a remotely efficient build. On like anyone.
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Dan is a huge mentor role to guys like Dyrus and Salce. He's older and gave them a lot of guidance. As a result, Dyrus and Salce are extremely loyal to Dan.
But like wei2coolman said, these things are less important, especially come S3, when it really comes down to mechanics, execution, and decision making.
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Hence why I said he should coach, not play.
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On December 26 2012 11:22 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On December 26 2012 10:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On December 26 2012 08:34 Dandel Ion wrote: This subforum is finished. You guys are discussing tier lists.
GG We are next level meta-tier listing On December 26 2012 09:41 Slusher wrote: I still remember the day that Loci came in and laid the smack down on people doubting Dan. Dyrus has told me in 1v1 RL conversations that Dan is the reason that every team he (Dan) has been on was ever remotely successful. Dan is the only person I would ever say could come close to Chauster in terms of knowledge of how to win games n shit. The problem is he always gimped himself by never doing even a remotely efficient build. On like anyone. spirit visage gangplank midway through S2; I've never laughed so hard. Dan's builds are complete mindfucks. I swear he has a dart board with items on there, and he just blindly tosses a dart on it, and goes "looks like i'm going warmogs on annie".
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On December 26 2012 11:22 Two_DoWn wrote: The problem is he always gimped himself by never doing even a remotely efficient build. On like anyone. No, this is wrong.
When he's not straight-up trolling (and that's actually quite often, but is fairly obvious when he is), his builds are quite smart. The vast majority of "innovative" things he's done were called dumb at the time, but later when other players did them a long while later, they were considered smart buys. Dan never got any credit for it.
Example: Revolver on Singed. Retarded when Dan did it. Smart when Shy did it.
Dan doesn't have the execution to make his smart choices look good. But I wouldn't question his understanding of the game--when he actually understands the game, and doesn't just follow the conventional routes of item development. He's one of the few players that actually looks at the game to choose his items, rather than following the same cookie-cutter deveopment every game.
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