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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 07 2012 01:45 GMT
#1701
On September 07 2012 10:37 Slaughter wrote:
Why would they Bench Elementz when West was dropping the ball more then anyone else?

Because when shit happens, YOU BETTER BENCH ELEMENTZ.

Not that I like the dude, but it's kinda sad. Imo he did improve a lot while he was in curse. He used to be an abysmal support though, so "improve" can be applied loosely.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
September 07 2012 01:45 GMT
#1702
Do any of you use keyboard to control camera movement instead of using mouse?
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
September 07 2012 01:50 GMT
#1703
On September 07 2012 10:12 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 10:00 Numy wrote:
On September 07 2012 09:53 Dandel Ion wrote:
[sarcasm] DotA M5 got disbanded because of Riot, heard it here first.[/sarcasm]

Intrestingly, that leaves only coL and EG in the "exclusivity situation". Both teams do not even have a LoL team currently. So I would bet money they don't know shit about what Riot wants the current multi-teams to do.
And for Riot, it makes NO SENSE at all to talk about this with EG before discussing with their current teams.

The mere fact that CLG/M5/SK have not (to anyone's knowledge) talked about anything like this makes me thinks it only concerned coL and EG in the first place.

I conclude either A) Scoots is lying
or B) Riot and dignitas are lying and every other proteam keeps quiet about talking with Riot about this.

Considering the likelyness of A against B, I'd bet money on Scoots being more wrong than Riot. (worded thusly, since we will never know 100% what was going on)


I doubt people are lying. It's most likely just a massive misunderstanding. Like maybe someone on riot mentioned it and then it got taken as law etc.

I consider proclaiming something false to be the truth lying.
But if you want to call it something more soft, like "misunderstanding", I understand. Some people need that to make the world look nicer.

I know another post touched on this but it really should be repeated: you don't get to decide what words mean. Lying has a very specific meaning the English language and requires the person doing the lying to know that what he/she is saying is not factually accurate. If you really believe that what you are saying is true (when it is not) that is not lying by the very definition of the word. Please don't misuse words for emotional impact, leave that to the politicians.
Creator of LoLTool.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 07 2012 01:51 GMT
#1704
Oh man, Dig making Scoots look like a giant d-bag. Can't wait for all the butthurt on the Dota forums, and denial from them.

If you guys saw the thread in the Dota forum, it's disgusting the amount of hate and contempt they have of LoL and Riot.
liftlift > tsm
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 07 2012 01:53 GMT
#1705
Dota has always seemed to be a very ruthless community.
Never Knows Best.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 01:54:38
September 07 2012 01:53 GMT
#1706
Slasher posts some clarifcation on /r/Dota2

ODEE is only talking about the context of my personal tweet, not of what has happened in the last day and a half. To clarify for everyone:

Scoots not did 'confirm' anything about Dignitas on Live On Three, that was me, he may have said it first because I talked with him during the pre-show. What I confirmed was something you already knew by Tuesday afternoon/Wednesday - that Dignitas COULD pick up a Dota team if they wanted to. That was the first time Riot told a team they could use other games beyond their statement. Digntias simply did not ask Riot previously before that if they could acquire a dota/moba team or not, mostly ODEE just being busy, and he can attest to both of these things. So because Dignitas never asked, they were never told they couldn't. I should have made this more clear.

Complexity and EG did ask previously, and then were given this answer. My original tweet included ire towards Riot for saying it was a misunderstanding between the teams (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=29022381#post29022381). I includes Dignitas along with EG and Complexity, which is admittedly wrong in this context. Sorry about that.
I was attempting to reach comment from Riot and Valve before releasing this story as a whole, but there's some of it.


http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/zh6qq/i_wonder_what_sirscoots_has_to_say_about_this/c64kwjn

Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 07 2012 01:53 GMT
#1707
On September 07 2012 10:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh man, Dig making Scoots look like a giant d-bag. Can't wait for all the butthurt on the Dota forums, and denial from them.

If you guys saw the thread in the Dota forum, it's disgusting the amount of hate and contempt they have of LoL and Riot.



I've always thought of the Dota community as uhh... not the nicest of people.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
September 07 2012 01:54 GMT
#1708
On September 07 2012 10:45 nosliw wrote:
Do any of you use keyboard to control camera movement instead of using mouse?


No, you would have to take your hand off of your skills....
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
AwayFromLife
Profile Joined August 2011
United States441 Posts
September 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#1709
On September 07 2012 10:53 nojitosunrise wrote:
Slasher posts some clarifcation on /r/Dota2

Show nested quote +
ODEE is only talking about the context of my personal tweet, not of what has happened in the last day and a half. To clarify for everyone:

Scoots not did 'confirm' anything about Dignitas on Live On Three, that was me, he may have said it first because I talked with him during the pre-show. What I confirmed was something you already knew by Tuesday afternoon/Wednesday - that Dignitas COULD pick up a Dota team if they wanted to. That was the first time Riot told a team they could use other games beyond their statement. Digntias simply did not ask Riot previously before that if they could acquire a dota/moba team or not, mostly ODEE just being busy, and he can attest to both of these things. So because Dignitas never asked, they were never told they couldn't. I should have made this more clear.

Complexity and EG did ask previously, and then were given this answer. My original tweet included ire towards Riot for saying it was a misunderstanding between the teams (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=29022381#post29022381). I includes Dignitas along with EG and Complexity, which is admittedly wrong in this context. Sorry about that.
I was attempting to reach comment from Riot and Valve before releasing this story as a whole, but there's some of it.


http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/zh6qq/i_wonder_what_sirscoots_has_to_say_about_this/c64kwjn


That's assuming anyone gives a shit or believes anything that Slasher says.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 02:00:12
September 07 2012 01:58 GMT
#1710
On September 07 2012 10:53 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 10:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh man, Dig making Scoots look like a giant d-bag. Can't wait for all the butthurt on the Dota forums, and denial from them.

If you guys saw the thread in the Dota forum, it's disgusting the amount of hate and contempt they have of LoL and Riot.



I've always thought of the Dota community as uhh... not the nicest of people.


Every gaming community is quite bad. I think LoL one is same just on TL it's a far smaller better community compared to rest. Much like the old TL before SC2 came along. I think part of the problem is that it's very easy to be apart of the mob and far harder to be an individual. People tend to gravitate towards what is easy.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 07 2012 02:00 GMT
#1711
On September 07 2012 10:53 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 10:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Oh man, Dig making Scoots look like a giant d-bag. Can't wait for all the butthurt on the Dota forums, and denial from them.

If you guys saw the thread in the Dota forum, it's disgusting the amount of hate and contempt they have of LoL and Riot.



I've always thought of the Dota community as uhh... not the nicest of people.

I played a lot of dota for a while, so yeah i know how unforgiving the community is, but it's fucking hilarious how pirahana like they are when it comes to an issue like this. Now they're going through the denial phase, after this Odee tweet.
liftlift > tsm
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 07 2012 02:00 GMT
#1712
On September 07 2012 07:18 LoCicero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 06:28 Craton wrote:
He couldn't cut it as a top player, so the next best thing involving League was being a caster, but he's not cut out for a top caster, either. Probably is why he's doing the gimmicky telestrator screen.

On September 07 2012 05:43 cLutZ wrote:
My roblem with casters is when they try to explain things that are so basic I feel like an idiot listening.

"The goal is to lasthit minions so you can get gold." or "Taking that first dragon is going to give them global gold."

Then there are the ones who say things that are bizarre/wrong. "Maokai is a really strong farmer against Shyvana."

Sounds like Phreak.


I 100% disagree with the fact that Dan "isn't a top player."

Dan is one of the best leaders in the game. I put Dan and Jatt as the two best leaders. If I made a team I would have Dan or Jatt as my jungler, period. Remember when EG was pretty good? They had Dan. Remember how EG isn't as good? They don't have Dan. Mechanically Dan may not be the best player and in solo queue he's willing to take chances that he wouldn't normally take, but don't for a second think that Dan plays competitively like he does in solo queue. Competitive LoL isn't so much about mechanics as it is about strategy and execution of the strategy. I'm not saying that mechanics don't mean anything, but I think people tend to put too much emphasis on them.

I'll try to give you guys some insight into playing competitively that might be lacking on TL (note: this is just my opinion and by no means the final word on competitive play). When I played for Dignitas at IPL the sole reason we won was because of our play calling and cohesiveness. Who called our plays? Our jungler (Jatt). He did a damn fine job of it too. If you guys watch the series on youtube I think we got literally every single dragon in that tournament. If you then watch our teamfighting, Jatt would usually run in and pretty much die, and we would win. Why? Because he knew how to initiate. Initiation does not require much "mechanical" skill, but it requires a good understanding of teamcomposition and each team's current positioning and current powerlevel. You need to know who to initiate on and how the teamfight will play out. Hell, when Jatt was Trundle he would literally pillar, run in, ult a carry, and die. What I find teams are usually missing are good leaders and disciplined players. An example of a lack of discipline would be in a recent game I saw (can't remember if it was a different IPL or not) when Regi as Ahri went for a kill against Elementz's fiddle support in mid lane. While almost killing Elementz, he got feared in the process and Crs came out of the jungle and got a free kill. Even if Regi did get the kill against Elementz most of Crs was missing and there was the chance he would die as well. In a competitive game you shouldn't take those chances. Those kind of mistakes can cause a team to lose the game. At the end of the day a team needs a leader and it needs people willing to follow that leader, otherwise you get bickering and indecision that leads to slow reactions and losses. At IPL we were the most organized team, and I believe it showed.

I would have talked about my time on CLG but that was a couple years ago and everyone was bad at the game. Just for those who don't know, I used to actually play for CLG. The original team was myself, Hotshot, Chauster, Jiji, and Kobe. Elementz ended up taking my spot because I decided it was more important to focus on school at the time (He went to WCG 2010 in my place).


As always, thank you very much for your insight locicero.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
September 07 2012 02:08 GMT
#1713
On September 07 2012 10:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 10:37 Slaughter wrote:
Why would they Bench Elementz when West was dropping the ball more then anyone else?

Because when shit happens, YOU BETTER BENCH ELEMENTZ.

Not that I like the dude, but it's kinda sad. Imo he did improve a lot while he was in curse. He used to be an abysmal support though, so "improve" can be applied loosely.


Well, keep in mind that Westrice did deny any rumors of dropping Elementz, and that Salce was not joining Crs's immediate lineup.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
September 07 2012 02:10 GMT
#1714
MY CAPS LOCK IS STUCK ON HOW DO I TURN IT OFF I DISABLED CAPS LOCK KEY ON MY KEYBOARD YET CAPS LOCK IS ON WUT DO

SRY FOR CAPS I CANT HELP IT DONT BAN ME PLZZZZZZZ
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 07 2012 02:12 GMT
#1715
Lolwut
It's your boy Guzma!
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 07 2012 02:12 GMT
#1716
On September 07 2012 11:10 Xevious wrote:
MY CAPS LOCK IS STUCK ON HOW DO I TURN IT OFF I DISABLED CAPS LOCK KEY ON MY KEYBOARD YET CAPS LOCK IS ON WUT DO

SRY FOR CAPS I CANT HELP IT DONT BAN ME PLZZZZZZZ

press shift.
Forever.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
September 07 2012 02:12 GMT
#1717
IT DOESNT WORK
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 07 2012 02:13 GMT
#1718
On September 07 2012 11:12 Xevious wrote:
IT DOESNT WORK

Well shit.... Good luck trying to fix that. You'll be known as the resident caplock guy.
liftlift > tsm
Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 02:19:29
September 07 2012 02:13 GMT
#1719
On September 07 2012 11:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 11:12 Xevious wrote:
IT DOESNT WORK

Well shit.... Good luck trying to fix that. You'll be known as the resident caplock guy.

BRB BUYING NEW $200 KEYBOARD

edit: ok fixed
and now my space bar doesn't work in game....wut
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
September 07 2012 02:17 GMT
#1720
Aren't all communities rabid sharks who rage at everything when given the chance? Esspecially ingame people will rage and do stupid things out of spite just because they know they'll never see those people again. I wish I could go into one LoL game and people aren't raging at each other or being disrespectful, Though it happens in every game, make a mistake get blamed for everything.
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