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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 06 2012 05:51 GMT
#1441
Yeah I don't play Kennen. Ranked is not the best place to learn either, apparently.
It's your boy Guzma!
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
September 06 2012 05:51 GMT
#1442
eve mid is fine to be honest. she's annoying because she spams aoe which clears fast and then roams, but if your team has map awareness she really isn't that big of a problem. Late game she is NOT an excuse for an AP carry either. She's a gimmick assassin who tries to gib someone with DFG. If she can't do that, her usefulness goes down quite a bit.

She's a good low elo/pubstomper but i dont think shes OP at all from what I've seen so far.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 06 2012 05:51 GMT
#1443
On September 06 2012 09:54 Zhiroo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 09:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 06 2012 09:51 nojitosunrise wrote:
well scoots just came out and called Riot out on "lying" basically....

more context? lying about what? and what should scoots care about LoL? It's not like EG has a LoL team.


Apparently Riot wanted teams in S3 to only have LoL teams and Riot denied it and Scoots is saying it was actually the case but some team managers talked with Riot to change that.


that's kind of disgraceful
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
September 06 2012 06:02 GMT
#1444
On September 06 2012 14:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 09:54 Zhiroo wrote:
On September 06 2012 09:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 06 2012 09:51 nojitosunrise wrote:
well scoots just came out and called Riot out on "lying" basically....

more context? lying about what? and what should scoots care about LoL? It's not like EG has a LoL team.


Apparently Riot wanted teams in S3 to only have LoL teams and Riot denied it and Scoots is saying it was actually the case but some team managers talked with Riot to change that.


that's kind of disgraceful


rofl, except Riot is probably infinitely more trustworthy than SirScoots... Either way it doesn't fucking matter since it's not happening, so basically he's being a drama queen for nothing lol.

"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 06 2012 06:05 GMT
#1445
On September 06 2012 15:02 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 14:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 06 2012 09:54 Zhiroo wrote:
On September 06 2012 09:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 06 2012 09:51 nojitosunrise wrote:
well scoots just came out and called Riot out on "lying" basically....

more context? lying about what? and what should scoots care about LoL? It's not like EG has a LoL team.


Apparently Riot wanted teams in S3 to only have LoL teams and Riot denied it and Scoots is saying it was actually the case but some team managers talked with Riot to change that.


that's kind of disgraceful


rofl, except Riot is probably infinitely more trustworthy than SirScoots... Either way it doesn't fucking matter since it's not happening, so basically he's being a drama queen for nothing lol.



complexity employee

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/zf6bg/dont_listen_to_riot_the_lol_team_exclusivity/c642gyf
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 06 2012 06:07 GMT
#1446
On September 06 2012 15:02 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 14:51 UniversalSnip wrote:
On September 06 2012 09:54 Zhiroo wrote:
On September 06 2012 09:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 06 2012 09:51 nojitosunrise wrote:
well scoots just came out and called Riot out on "lying" basically....

more context? lying about what? and what should scoots care about LoL? It's not like EG has a LoL team.


Apparently Riot wanted teams in S3 to only have LoL teams and Riot denied it and Scoots is saying it was actually the case but some team managers talked with Riot to change that.


that's kind of disgraceful


rofl, except Riot is probably infinitely more trustworthy than SirScoots... Either way it doesn't fucking matter since it's not happening, so basically he's being a drama queen for nothing lol.


From what I gathered, Riot changed the policy 2 days ago and he comes out about it now.

And people flamed me on reddit for pointing out that somebody that has a dota2 team,and no league team, is making a fuss about a league issue...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 06:19:12
September 06 2012 06:16 GMT
#1447
Clearly Riot figured out "derp , that was a retarded idea, time to scrap it." Then all of a sudden SirScoots, of which EG has no LoL team, gets all butthurt over something that's already been changed, thus causing everyone else to get butthurt over something that's been changed, before there were any implications.

It felt more like SirScoots, and non-LoL owning teams just shit talking Riot because that's what every non-LoL involved esports persons seems to like to do. Seriously, I don't think I've heard a single fucking positive thing about Riot/LoL from someone not involved with it. It's always along the lines "RIOT is an immature company, blah blah blah", or "Riot is handling the esports scene wrong, blah blah blah", or "LoL isn't real esports" or "LoL is dota copy, blah blah blah".

Fucking tired of the fucking shitstorm parade that people think they can just stomp/walk all over LoL, and get away with it just because other people share their uneducated opinions.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 06:18:37
September 06 2012 06:16 GMT
#1448
To be honest it obviously had been a rule, and it looks bad.

EG has no LoL team because of the fact the rule existed in the first place, Sirscoots is probly annoyed that he can't sign a team in time for season 3 with the change being made so late.

valid complaint imo, I'd love to have the major us esports teams get involved in lol, like it or not it's good for our game.
Carrilord has arrived.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
September 06 2012 06:21 GMT
#1449
Well it looked like Riot tried to do what most corporations do which is to establish a monopoly, but something tells me that the guys back at the DotA 2 forum are making this incident much more alarming than it actually is.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 06 2012 06:22 GMT
#1450
On September 06 2012 15:16 Slusher wrote:
To be honest it obviously had been a rule, and it looks bad.

EG has no LoL team because of the fact the rule existed in the first place, Sirscoots is probly annoyed that he can't sign a team in time for season 3 with the change being made so late.

valid complaint imo, I'd love to have the major us esports teams get involved in lol, like it or not it's good for our game.

They had the rule, but there were no clear implications/consequences from it. If there was, CLG would've had to insta-disband their Dota 2 team, which they didn't. And EG has had plenty of time to set up a LoL team, before this rule, they clearly didn't want to invest in a team for a long time, that's their fault. Scoots has no right to bitch about the rule, because all of a sudden he's pique'd an interest in LoL, as if.
liftlift > tsm
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
September 06 2012 06:40 GMT
#1451
Lo3 is a show about Esports, they'd be remiss to not talk about this. It's something that was going to happen and was changed(something Scoots praised Riot for changing it's mind) Considering you have multiple managers Complexity, EG, and I believe Dig all confirming the rule was actually going to happen that means it was actually going to be a S3 rule. Thankfully this was changed as it would hurt Riot and the gaming scene in general.

If you want League to be an Esport people who do the journalism are going to talk about it, some of it may not be positive and if it's obviously disgustingly against League then you have a right to call it out. This wasn't.

While I'll call out League bashing all day what they did was informative and discussion not bashing. Not talking about it would of been poor coverage. Now the subtle jabs about the complexity of League vs Dota by Slasher in the Dyrus interview is closer to "bashing" and that was just minor jokes.

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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 06 2012 06:41 GMT
#1452
On September 06 2012 15:16 Slusher wrote:
To be honest it obviously had been a rule, and it looks bad.

EG has no LoL team because of the fact the rule existed in the first place, Sirscoots is probly annoyed that he can't sign a team in time for season 3 with the change being made so late.

valid complaint imo, I'd love to have the major us esports teams get involved in lol, like it or not it's good for our game.


what no

EG could've signed a team years ago. Literally years ago. It's not like competitive LoL has only been around for the last month. Especially since, from what I've gathered, this rule only surfaced two weeks or so ago. EG doesn't have a LoL team because at first they didn't want one and then when they realized they wanted one it was at a time when practically every good team was already signed. Organizations like EG and coL still want LoL teams especially after the rule was revoked. They're likely just waiting for another Rock Solid.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 06 2012 06:45 GMT
#1453
On September 06 2012 15:40 Parnage wrote:
Lo3 is a show about Esports, they'd be remiss to not talk about this. It's something that was going to happen and was changed(something Scoots praised Riot for changing it's mind) Considering you have multiple managers Complexity, EG, and I believe Dig all confirming the rule was actually going to happen that means it was actually going to be a S3 rule. Thankfully this was changed as it would hurt Riot and the gaming scene in general.

If you want League to be an Esport people who do the journalism are going to talk about it, some of it may not be positive and if it's obviously disgustingly against League then you have a right to call it out. This wasn't.

While I'll call out League bashing all day what they did was informative and discussion not bashing. Not talking about it would of been poor coverage. Now the subtle jabs about the complexity of League vs Dota by Slasher in the Dyrus interview is closer to "bashing" and that was just minor jokes.


I have no qualms talking about it, but SirScoots acted as if that was the only reason that EG didn't have a LoL team, ergo "hurting esports" which is a giant load of elephant doo doo.
liftlift > tsm
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 06 2012 07:06 GMT
#1454
On September 06 2012 15:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Clearly Riot figured out "derp , that was a retarded idea, time to scrap it." Then all of a sudden SirScoots, of which EG has no LoL team, gets all butthurt over something that's already been changed, thus causing everyone else to get butthurt over something that's been changed, before there were any implications.

It felt more like SirScoots, and non-LoL owning teams just shit talking Riot because that's what every non-LoL involved esports persons seems to like to do. Seriously, I don't think I've heard a single fucking positive thing about Riot/LoL from someone not involved with it. It's always along the lines "RIOT is an immature company, blah blah blah", or "Riot is handling the esports scene wrong, blah blah blah", or "LoL isn't real esports" or "LoL is dota copy, blah blah blah".

Fucking tired of the fucking shitstorm parade that people think they can just stomp/walk all over LoL, and get away with it just because other people share their uneducated opinions.

What about Dignitas? They have a LoL team and no DotA team. How does their word fit into this?
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Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
September 06 2012 07:37 GMT
#1455
On September 06 2012 16:06 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 15:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Clearly Riot figured out "derp , that was a retarded idea, time to scrap it." Then all of a sudden SirScoots, of which EG has no LoL team, gets all butthurt over something that's already been changed, thus causing everyone else to get butthurt over something that's been changed, before there were any implications.

It felt more like SirScoots, and non-LoL owning teams just shit talking Riot because that's what every non-LoL involved esports persons seems to like to do. Seriously, I don't think I've heard a single fucking positive thing about Riot/LoL from someone not involved with it. It's always along the lines "RIOT is an immature company, blah blah blah", or "Riot is handling the esports scene wrong, blah blah blah", or "LoL isn't real esports" or "LoL is dota copy, blah blah blah".

Fucking tired of the fucking shitstorm parade that people think they can just stomp/walk all over LoL, and get away with it just because other people share their uneducated opinions.

What about Dignitas? They have a LoL team and no DotA team. How does their word fit into this?


sc2?
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 06 2012 07:44 GMT
#1456
On September 06 2012 16:37 Perplex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 16:06 TheYango wrote:
On September 06 2012 15:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Clearly Riot figured out "derp , that was a retarded idea, time to scrap it." Then all of a sudden SirScoots, of which EG has no LoL team, gets all butthurt over something that's already been changed, thus causing everyone else to get butthurt over something that's been changed, before there were any implications.

It felt more like SirScoots, and non-LoL owning teams just shit talking Riot because that's what every non-LoL involved esports persons seems to like to do. Seriously, I don't think I've heard a single fucking positive thing about Riot/LoL from someone not involved with it. It's always along the lines "RIOT is an immature company, blah blah blah", or "Riot is handling the esports scene wrong, blah blah blah", or "LoL isn't real esports" or "LoL is dota copy, blah blah blah".

Fucking tired of the fucking shitstorm parade that people think they can just stomp/walk all over LoL, and get away with it just because other people share their uneducated opinions.

What about Dignitas? They have a LoL team and no DotA team. How does their word fit into this?


sc2?

I thought the supposed agreement only applied to DotA/HoN teams. Scoots was saying that they would have to drop their DotA squad to have a LoL team, but I don't think it said anything about their SC2 team.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 06 2012 07:47 GMT
#1457
On September 06 2012 16:44 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 16:37 Perplex wrote:
On September 06 2012 16:06 TheYango wrote:
On September 06 2012 15:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Clearly Riot figured out "derp , that was a retarded idea, time to scrap it." Then all of a sudden SirScoots, of which EG has no LoL team, gets all butthurt over something that's already been changed, thus causing everyone else to get butthurt over something that's been changed, before there were any implications.

It felt more like SirScoots, and non-LoL owning teams just shit talking Riot because that's what every non-LoL involved esports persons seems to like to do. Seriously, I don't think I've heard a single fucking positive thing about Riot/LoL from someone not involved with it. It's always along the lines "RIOT is an immature company, blah blah blah", or "Riot is handling the esports scene wrong, blah blah blah", or "LoL isn't real esports" or "LoL is dota copy, blah blah blah".

Fucking tired of the fucking shitstorm parade that people think they can just stomp/walk all over LoL, and get away with it just because other people share their uneducated opinions.

What about Dignitas? They have a LoL team and no DotA team. How does their word fit into this?


sc2?

I thought the supposed agreement only applied to DotA/HoN teams. Scoots was saying that they would have to drop their DotA squad to have a LoL team, but I don't think it said anything about their SC2 team.

Yeah, I wasn't quite following.
What about M5/CLG/EHOME etc. who all have DotA and LoL teams...?
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
September 06 2012 08:11 GMT
#1458
what is considered high elo now, im so confused
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 06 2012 08:16 GMT
#1459
On September 06 2012 16:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 16:44 TheYango wrote:
On September 06 2012 16:37 Perplex wrote:
On September 06 2012 16:06 TheYango wrote:
On September 06 2012 15:16 wei2coolman wrote:
Clearly Riot figured out "derp , that was a retarded idea, time to scrap it." Then all of a sudden SirScoots, of which EG has no LoL team, gets all butthurt over something that's already been changed, thus causing everyone else to get butthurt over something that's been changed, before there were any implications.

It felt more like SirScoots, and non-LoL owning teams just shit talking Riot because that's what every non-LoL involved esports persons seems to like to do. Seriously, I don't think I've heard a single fucking positive thing about Riot/LoL from someone not involved with it. It's always along the lines "RIOT is an immature company, blah blah blah", or "Riot is handling the esports scene wrong, blah blah blah", or "LoL isn't real esports" or "LoL is dota copy, blah blah blah".

Fucking tired of the fucking shitstorm parade that people think they can just stomp/walk all over LoL, and get away with it just because other people share their uneducated opinions.

What about Dignitas? They have a LoL team and no DotA team. How does their word fit into this?


sc2?

I thought the supposed agreement only applied to DotA/HoN teams. Scoots was saying that they would have to drop their DotA squad to have a LoL team, but I don't think it said anything about their SC2 team.

Yeah, I wasn't quite following.
What about M5/CLG/EHOME etc. who all have DotA and LoL teams...?


I think the discussion was about the rule coming into place for S3 though, and Yango simply brought up Dig as a team only interested in LoL at the moment(although they did have a DotA2 team, no longer) who were corroborating Scoots/Rileno's statements. Essentially the word is that the gaming organizations put enough pressure on Riot to revoke the rule, but they still are reporting that it was a rule ready to go into effect(which we should assume would have effected the above named teams, but that's speculation so disregard if you want).
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 06 2012 08:33 GMT
#1460
Yet what I find sort of odd about all of this is that none of the aforementioned teams other than EG etc. have said a word about any of this.

It's safe to say that many of the teams (especially IG with their recent TI2 win) hold significant investment in both esports so why are we only seeing blind outrage from Dig/EG/coL?
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