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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 06 2012 03:31 GMT
#1421
Save for Syndra and claim free ELO
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
September 06 2012 03:36 GMT
#1422
On September 06 2012 10:56 Flakes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 10:46 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
So I have 4800, which ap should I buy. I want something that isn't played (what's the point of me learning a mid when I never mid if someone else picks them), and is safe (since obviously I suck at mid). And not viktor.

TL's #1 hipster mid: Karma

Other less-played safe-ish picks: be Orianna, Swain, AP Kog, Lux

Simply not played much: Ziggs, Xerath, Malz, Veigar, Brand? (haven't seen him that much recently)



I only play ziggs, malz and brand mid just find all 3 so overpowered since near no one knows how to face them now
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 06 2012 03:57 GMT
#1423
On September 06 2012 12:31 MooMooMugi wrote:
Save for Syndra and claim free ELO


Hard to say. Her damage is not that high and her ult is single target. She is more like a CC-bot kind of mid laner.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 06 2012 03:59 GMT
#1424
On September 06 2012 12:57 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:31 MooMooMugi wrote:
Save for Syndra and claim free ELO


Hard to say. Her damage is not that high and her ult is single target. She is more like a CC-bot kind of mid laner.

Yeah, but all you gotta do is pull both blue golems into mid lane and sic them on the enemy laner, GG FIRST BLOOD
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 06 2012 04:06 GMT
#1425
On September 06 2012 12:59 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:31 MooMooMugi wrote:
Save for Syndra and claim free ELO


Hard to say. Her damage is not that high and her ult is single target. She is more like a CC-bot kind of mid laner.

Yeah, but all you gotta do is pull both blue golems into mid lane and sic them on the enemy laner, GG FIRST BLOOD


lol what
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 06 2012 04:10 GMT
#1426
On September 06 2012 12:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 10:56 Flakes wrote:
On September 06 2012 10:46 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
So I have 4800, which ap should I buy. I want something that isn't played (what's the point of me learning a mid when I never mid if someone else picks them), and is safe (since obviously I suck at mid). And not viktor.

TL's #1 hipster mid: Karma

Other less-played safe-ish picks: be Orianna, Swain, AP Kog, Lux

Simply not played much: Ziggs, Xerath, Malz, Veigar, Brand? (haven't seen him that much recently)



I only play ziggs, malz and brand mid just find all 3 so overpowered since near no one knows how to face them now

malz is really strong right now but people aren't playing him. i think there'll be 1 more buff before he becomes fotm.
ziggs is pretty good, but there are other people who do similar damage and are more safe / have more cc with range (gragas comes to mind). there are stronger duelist mages than brand i feel, but all 3 are really kewl buys too.
Hey! Listen!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 06 2012 04:27 GMT
#1427
On September 06 2012 13:06 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:59 MooMooMugi wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:31 MooMooMugi wrote:
Save for Syndra and claim free ELO


Hard to say. Her damage is not that high and her ult is single target. She is more like a CC-bot kind of mid laner.

Yeah, but all you gotta do is pull both blue golems into mid lane and sic them on the enemy laner, GG FIRST BLOOD


lol what


Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 06 2012 04:30 GMT
#1428
On September 06 2012 13:27 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 13:06 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:59 MooMooMugi wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:31 MooMooMugi wrote:
Save for Syndra and claim free ELO


Hard to say. Her damage is not that high and her ult is single target. She is more like a CC-bot kind of mid laner.

Yeah, but all you gotta do is pull both blue golems into mid lane and sic them on the enemy laner, GG FIRST BLOOD


lol what


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spnk_gpcBnI


I know about the video but I fail to understand how that is free Elo.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
September 06 2012 04:41 GMT
#1429
On September 06 2012 13:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 13:27 overt wrote:
On September 06 2012 13:06 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:59 MooMooMugi wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:31 MooMooMugi wrote:
Save for Syndra and claim free ELO


Hard to say. Her damage is not that high and her ult is single target. She is more like a CC-bot kind of mid laner.

Yeah, but all you gotta do is pull both blue golems into mid lane and sic them on the enemy laner, GG FIRST BLOOD


lol what


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spnk_gpcBnI


I know about the video but I fail to understand how that is free Elo.

I think he's being sarcastic
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 06 2012 04:49 GMT
#1430
Holy fuck why did no one warn me about AP Eve. I don't even know where my health went at all. It was just gone.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 06 2012 04:51 GMT
#1431
On September 06 2012 13:49 Requizen wrote:
Holy fuck why did no one warn me about AP Eve. I don't even know where my health went at all. It was just gone.

You've had like a month, Req. It's all I've been talking about in LP....
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 06 2012 04:52 GMT
#1432
On September 06 2012 13:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 13:49 Requizen wrote:
Holy fuck why did no one warn me about AP Eve. I don't even know where my health went at all. It was just gone.

You've had like a month, Req. It's all I've been talking about in LP....

Yeah, but I tend not to believe you. Especially with Eve related things.

It was like, holy fuck. Through a stun and damage/ult, just exploded me. I didn't even know how to respond.
It's your boy Guzma!
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
September 06 2012 04:54 GMT
#1433
I don't know why they even buffed Eve after her release. There was a reason we repeatedly nerfed her in testing...
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 06 2012 05:01 GMT
#1434
You have somethign against transvestites, don't you?
And yeah MB I'm not sure about the recent round of buffs. They were definitely too much, and now I'm worried that when they realize it they'll fucking destroy her again.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 06 2012 05:03 GMT
#1435
So Kennen was probably a bad pick vs her. She just stood behind creeps and hit with her spikey thing (honestly don't know what it's called) and then gibbed me when I got close. Or I just didn't know how to play against her at all.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 06 2012 05:07 GMT
#1436
On September 06 2012 14:03 Requizen wrote:
So Kennen was probably a bad pick vs her. She just stood behind creeps and hit with her spikey thing (honestly don't know what it's called) and then gibbed me when I got close. Or I just didn't know how to play against her at all.

Harass the living fuck out of her. You have crazy long range autoattacks, just force her to waste her mana csing with Q and stay out of range of low health minions (that's what her Q prioritizes).

Be careful about trading with her at 6 though; she trades REALLY well with her ult.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 06 2012 05:10 GMT
#1437
You aren't kidding. I hit 6 and thought I could stun -> run in with ult for chain stun, but she just kind of fucked me.

Then she got DFG. It wasn't pleasant.
It's your boy Guzma!
Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
September 06 2012 05:17 GMT
#1438
On September 06 2012 13:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 13:27 overt wrote:
On September 06 2012 13:06 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:59 MooMooMugi wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:31 MooMooMugi wrote:
Save for Syndra and claim free ELO


Hard to say. Her damage is not that high and her ult is single target. She is more like a CC-bot kind of mid laner.

Yeah, but all you gotta do is pull both blue golems into mid lane and sic them on the enemy laner, GG FIRST BLOOD


lol what


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spnk_gpcBnI


I know about the video but I fail to understand how that is free Elo.


That looks to me like a Skarner ult on a 9 second CD and longer displacement range. I'm dying to see if she's viable in the jungle.
Diamond 4 Jungle/Support - http://www.twitch.tv/cr4zyh0r5e/c/3051057 Zyra support 101
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 06 2012 05:18 GMT
#1439
On September 06 2012 14:17 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 13:30 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 13:27 overt wrote:
On September 06 2012 13:06 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:59 MooMooMugi wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:57 Sufficiency wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:31 MooMooMugi wrote:
Save for Syndra and claim free ELO


Hard to say. Her damage is not that high and her ult is single target. She is more like a CC-bot kind of mid laner.

Yeah, but all you gotta do is pull both blue golems into mid lane and sic them on the enemy laner, GG FIRST BLOOD


lol what


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spnk_gpcBnI


I know about the video but I fail to understand how that is free Elo.


That looks to me like a Skarner ult on a 9 second CD and longer displacement range. I'm dying to see if she's viable in the jungle.

Can't hit enemy champs. Only minions, neutral monsters (excluding baron/dragon), and your orbs.
It's your boy Guzma!
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
September 06 2012 05:46 GMT
#1440
On September 06 2012 14:10 Requizen wrote:
You aren't kidding. I hit 6 and thought I could stun -> run in with ult for chain stun, but she just kind of fucked me.

Then she got DFG. It wasn't pleasant.


???????
Kennen gets buttraped by anyone with burst =(, don't run at people. Either be a bitch with AD runes and auto attack or farm like a bitch until you're level 16 and the gayest hero in the game with a zhonyas.

But yea, AP eve mid is pretty hilarious once you get DFG. I think buffs were necessary though, like her stealth was almost completely useless aside from getting past wards to gank.
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
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