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[Patch 1.0.0.145: Rengar] General Discussion - Page 11

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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
August 15 2012 19:08 GMT
#201
On August 16 2012 04:05 TheKefka wrote:
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On August 16 2012 03:51 MindBreaker wrote:
I really like the looks of this new kat. def gonna play her today

I hate how the new kat looks,why are her knives so big?Doesn't make any sense.


The patch preview video makes it seem like new kat is hideous. I really hope that's not the case on live, I liked how she looked before D;
:3
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 19:09:22
August 15 2012 19:09 GMT
#202
On August 16 2012 04:08 Eiii wrote:
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On August 16 2012 04:05 TheKefka wrote:
On August 16 2012 03:51 MindBreaker wrote:
I really like the looks of this new kat. def gonna play her today

I hate how the new kat looks,why are her knives so big?Doesn't make any sense.


The patch preview video makes it seem like new kat is hideous. I really hope that's not the case on live, I liked how she looked before D;

I just played against her on NA she looks worse than before imo...
Cackle™
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 19:13:16
August 15 2012 19:11 GMT
#203
Saint jungling Kat, holy shit she is ugly from the side.

Her hair, especially from blue side, is just so bad. Jesus.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
August 15 2012 19:12 GMT
#204
On August 16 2012 04:11 HPoirot wrote:
Saint jungling Kat, holy shit she is ugly from the side.


Hearing Jacky sneeze was probably the most adorable thing I've ever heard
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 15 2012 19:14 GMT
#205
On August 16 2012 01:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On August 16 2012 01:21 gtrsrs wrote:
corki top is pretty good. he's not super super longrange though so you have to be mechanically sound. he does output a literal fuckton of damage, and no one is gonna be able to stand and fight him at level 1 if you get E or Q

unfortunately, champs like garen, udyr, and ww eat ranged carries alive up top, so you have to be careful of them


How, pray tell, do you measure a "literal fuckton"?

Not quite as much as a metric fuckton.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 15 2012 19:15 GMT
#206
New kat clears ridiculously fast.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 15 2012 19:17 GMT
#207
On August 16 2012 00:37 arb wrote:
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On August 15 2012 19:27 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On August 15 2012 19:11 Eiii wrote:
On August 15 2012 18:00 Caphe wrote:
Pdd(now on iG) did play an awesome Garen last year in IEM Guangzhou. Beside from that noone really plays Garen in high level tournament. I would love too see more Garen in competitive play since hes fun to watch cos we've seen so little of him.

I would build a movement speed + crit Garen with 3xPD just for the lol. Omg that Q crit is gonna be so fun.


Movespeed garen was one of my favorite normal game builds. The rules are basically that you're only allowed to build items that grant some kind of movespeed buff and come mid/lategame you're only allowed to roam around and steal/secure kills with your ult.

EDIT: for the record, I believe movespeed garen is one of the famous caller builds

One time caller did nothing but farm top lane for 40 minutes with mordekaiser then show up randomly after we got completely killed and 1v5'd them with boots, 2 phantom dancers, 2 full bloodthirsters and a FoN.

That was the high point of my lol rage career.

Saint Caller

What a god

I remember the other team saying something like "This proves morde can do everything: AP, tank, and now AD"
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 15 2012 19:22 GMT
#208
I dunno man, Kat's hair looks dumb (it did before), but I like the way she runs, kinda cool.
It's your boy Guzma!
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
August 15 2012 19:23 GMT
#209
How does Alistar combo work vs banshees veil?
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
August 15 2012 19:24 GMT
#210
The balance changes for this patch just seem kind of random to me... Did Garen and Kat really need messed with?
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
August 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#211
Doesn't anyone remember how TRM wrecked face with Jayce from the get go? He can't be that bad when TRM of all people can go 13-1-10 or smth in a tournament with a team he doesn't even know (when he was subbing for mTw). Not to speak of his solo queue rape fest. Btw is he still trying to get #1 with Yorick and Panth mid?
Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
August 15 2012 19:33 GMT
#212
On August 16 2012 04:04 Slayer91 wrote:
movement speed doesnt make something big and clunky not big and clunky his animation and sizes are the same it's just he moves faster


The most recent patch addressed his animations to make them more responsive. What about him do you still find to be "clunky" ?

Also i'm pretty sure movespeed effects turn speeds (not that it matters on cho anyway).
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 15 2012 19:34 GMT
#213
Jayce was always good, just his first autos were so annoying that people stopped playing him. He has good matchups and good scaling, ends up being pretty nice in teamfights as well. He just never caught on like other new champs for some reason.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 15 2012 19:37 GMT
#214
Jayce is like Kayle, except stronger. He has the factor that he can farm safely after a lane fails~, or he can go balls deep and trade well.

He can push lanes quickly, he can offer a lot of map control due to raw speed.

He's a jack of all trades
liftlift > tsm
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 19:45:23
August 15 2012 19:44 GMT
#215
new jayce animations are sexy. jayce remains strong as fuck also. he is one of the better scaling top laners imo. mid and late game you just wreck dudes.

edit: hes also pretty fun to play.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 15 2012 19:46 GMT
#216
On August 16 2012 04:23 Hakanfrog wrote:
How does Alistar combo work vs banshees veil?

It makes it easier since your W closes the gap but doesn't knock them back, pops the veil so you can easily Q.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
August 15 2012 19:46 GMT
#217
On August 16 2012 03:47 Seuss wrote:
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On August 16 2012 03:37 Slayer91 wrote:
cho real fat and clunky


Only if you don't run movespeed everything.

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On August 16 2012 03:42 h3r1n6 wrote:
I bought Diana yesterday. So good in mid, she is like an assassin Karthus. Farms everything and hurts a lot. I failed with her in the jungle, but snowballed really hard in 2 games of midlane with her. I guess I just suck at jungling, but why jungle her?


Jungling Diana lets you have an AoE burst AP mid like Annie, Orianna, Zyra etc. for stupid E->Enemy team dies combinations. Jungle Diana also has the easiest clear of any jungler I'm aware of, so in that regard she's almost newbie-proof (almost, because someone will always find a way to fail).

the diana + annie combo seemed ridiculously strong the one time i had a chance to play it
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 20:14:13
August 15 2012 20:09 GMT
#218
Saint jungling Kat still.

It looks pretty weak tbh. Her clears are pretty damn slow, way slower than shyv/mundo. I mean, of course you get the odd triple reset and quad/penta, but overall I think she's a lot worse than similar junglers.

Maybe it's because Saint maxes Q first, if I'm seeing it correctly.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-15 20:16:56
August 15 2012 20:15 GMT
#219
On August 16 2012 05:09 Doctorbeat wrote:
Saint jungling Kat still.

Her clears are pretty damn slow



On August 16 2012 04:15 JackDino wrote:
New kat clears ridiculously fast.


AAAAAAAA
The possibilities..
Cackle™
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
August 15 2012 20:18 GMT
#220
On August 16 2012 05:15 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 05:09 Doctorbeat wrote:
Saint jungling Kat still.

Her clears are pretty damn slow



Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 04:15 JackDino wrote:
New kat clears ridiculously fast.


AAAAAAAA
The possibilities..


Heh. I'm just going by what I've seen from saint.

He also started boots+3 instead of cloth+5, which saint complained about making him way slower.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
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