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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 07 2012 06:11 GMT
#1341
On August 07 2012 14:51 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 14:50 IMoperator wrote:
Is Riot ever going to release a 3150/4800 champion?


They made an announcement a few months ago. All champs are 6300 now.


I missed this... anyone have a link?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 07 2012 06:13 GMT
#1342
I don't even know why we're nitpicking numbers when anyone can just watch the damn spotlight or skill video on her champ profile and see how big it is.
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Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:16:40
August 07 2012 06:14 GMT
#1343
On August 07 2012 15:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:01 Feartheguru wrote:
On August 07 2012 14:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 07 2012 14:33 Craton wrote:
Ryuu would do well on Fox News, imo. There's a reason you should stay consistent with your units of measurement. Changing the units midway distorts the appearance of the data and is misleading to the reader.

Or I'm just copy pasting from the wiki exactly as it says. I don't distort what my source says. Not my fault the wiki lists Diana's E aoe as radius and Oriana's aoe as diameter. My bad for assuming people are smart enough to know diameter = 2x radius. I also didnt bring up Oriana's aoe radius/diameter until after feartheguru said it was small.


You are literally arguing that since a>b, b is small. Sorry I cannot respond to this argument, it's too foolproof.

No, I'm arguing that Diana's E radius is 250, which is quite large, considering that the champ spotlight shows the aoe to almost cover the entire lane. I offered Oriana's ulti diameter at 410 (radius 205 in case you can't do the math as Craton suggests) as comparison. Then I'm further assuming that you don't think Oriana's ulti aoe is small and if that is true, then Diana E radius cannot also be small. If you do think Oriana's ulti aoe is small then I have no idea what you consider to be not small outside of like...2 skills in all of LoL.


Well now I see the problem. You think there are only 2 skills in LoL with bigger aoe than ori ult. So obviously we have a different definition of what small is.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
August 07 2012 06:16 GMT
#1344
On August 07 2012 15:13 TheYango wrote:
I don't even know why we're nitpicking numbers when anyone can just watch the damn spotlight or skill video on her champ profile and see how big it is.


Yes because the definition of big is what TheYango thinks is big. Thanks for showing me the light.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:19:21
August 07 2012 06:17 GMT
#1345
On August 07 2012 15:14 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 07 2012 15:01 Feartheguru wrote:
On August 07 2012 14:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 07 2012 14:33 Craton wrote:
Ryuu would do well on Fox News, imo. There's a reason you should stay consistent with your units of measurement. Changing the units midway distorts the appearance of the data and is misleading to the reader.

Or I'm just copy pasting from the wiki exactly as it says. I don't distort what my source says. Not my fault the wiki lists Diana's E aoe as radius and Oriana's aoe as diameter. My bad for assuming people are smart enough to know diameter = 2x radius. I also didnt bring up Oriana's aoe radius/diameter until after feartheguru said it was small.


You are literally arguing that since a>b, b is small. Sorry I cannot respond to this argument, it's too foolproof.

No, I'm arguing that Diana's E radius is 250, which is quite large, considering that the champ spotlight shows the aoe to almost cover the entire lane. I offered Oriana's ulti diameter at 410 (radius 205 in case you can't do the math as Craton suggests) as comparison. Then I'm further assuming that you don't think Oriana's ulti aoe is small and if that is true, then Diana E radius cannot also be small. If you do think Oriana's ulti aoe is small then I have no idea what you consider to be not small outside of like...2 skills in all of LoL.


Well now I see the problem. You think there are only 2 skills in LoL with bigger aoe than ori ult O.O...... So obviously we have a different definition of what small is.

Exaggeration bro. I picked Ori ulti because it's the most similar to Diana's E.

I'll even link to the spotlight again so everyone can decide for themselves:

Demonstration of Diana's E at 1:20.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35172 Posts
August 07 2012 06:17 GMT
#1346
On August 07 2012 15:14 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 07 2012 15:01 Feartheguru wrote:
On August 07 2012 14:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 07 2012 14:33 Craton wrote:
Ryuu would do well on Fox News, imo. There's a reason you should stay consistent with your units of measurement. Changing the units midway distorts the appearance of the data and is misleading to the reader.

Or I'm just copy pasting from the wiki exactly as it says. I don't distort what my source says. Not my fault the wiki lists Diana's E aoe as radius and Oriana's aoe as diameter. My bad for assuming people are smart enough to know diameter = 2x radius. I also didnt bring up Oriana's aoe radius/diameter until after feartheguru said it was small.


You are literally arguing that since a>b, b is small. Sorry I cannot respond to this argument, it's too foolproof.

No, I'm arguing that Diana's E radius is 250, which is quite large, considering that the champ spotlight shows the aoe to almost cover the entire lane. I offered Oriana's ulti diameter at 410 (radius 205 in case you can't do the math as Craton suggests) as comparison. Then I'm further assuming that you don't think Oriana's ulti aoe is small and if that is true, then Diana E radius cannot also be small. If you do think Oriana's ulti aoe is small then I have no idea what you consider to be not small outside of like...2 skills in all of LoL.


Well now I see the problem. You think there are only 2 skills in LoL with bigger aoe than ori ult. So obviously we have a different definition of what small is.

He means outside of the skills currently being discussed, because you ahve expressed your opinion.

I think everybody needs to take a nap. Math and reading comprehension is not high atm.=O
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:26:09
August 07 2012 06:19 GMT
#1347
On August 07 2012 15:17 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:14 Feartheguru wrote:
On August 07 2012 15:06 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 07 2012 15:01 Feartheguru wrote:
On August 07 2012 14:37 Ryuu314 wrote:
On August 07 2012 14:33 Craton wrote:
Ryuu would do well on Fox News, imo. There's a reason you should stay consistent with your units of measurement. Changing the units midway distorts the appearance of the data and is misleading to the reader.

Or I'm just copy pasting from the wiki exactly as it says. I don't distort what my source says. Not my fault the wiki lists Diana's E aoe as radius and Oriana's aoe as diameter. My bad for assuming people are smart enough to know diameter = 2x radius. I also didnt bring up Oriana's aoe radius/diameter until after feartheguru said it was small.


You are literally arguing that since a>b, b is small. Sorry I cannot respond to this argument, it's too foolproof.

No, I'm arguing that Diana's E radius is 250, which is quite large, considering that the champ spotlight shows the aoe to almost cover the entire lane. I offered Oriana's ulti diameter at 410 (radius 205 in case you can't do the math as Craton suggests) as comparison. Then I'm further assuming that you don't think Oriana's ulti aoe is small and if that is true, then Diana E radius cannot also be small. If you do think Oriana's ulti aoe is small then I have no idea what you consider to be not small outside of like...2 skills in all of LoL.


Well now I see the problem. You think there are only 2 skills in LoL with bigger aoe than ori ult O.O...... So obviously we have a different definition of what small is.

Exaggeration bro. I picked Ori ulti because it's the most similar to Diana's E.

I'll even link to the spotlight at the appropriate time so everyone can decide for themselves:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7WSLWcACiw&t=1m20s


Nvm, I wave the white flag. You guys have proven beyond doubt that my opinion of "small" is wrong.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 07 2012 06:22 GMT
#1348
Hmm, I'm not sure an aoe you can place anywhere is really directly comparable with one that self-centers. For example ori's ult vs amumu's ult, ori's ult feels huge but it's actually got significantly less radius than amumu's, and amumu's feels large but not ridiculously so.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 07 2012 06:25 GMT
#1349
this is actually the dumbest argument i've ever read here LOL
TranslatorBaa!
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
August 07 2012 06:25 GMT
#1350
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=8331242#post8331242

Zyra's getting a pile of nerfs. Not sure if they're quite enough but it's a good starting point.
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:33:18
August 07 2012 06:28 GMT
#1351
On August 07 2012 15:25 Lmui wrote:
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=8331242#post8331242

Zyra's getting a pile of nerfs. Not sure if they're quite enough but it's a good starting point.


Wo, that's a lot. I think it might be too much actually. Like the Rioter says the range reduction on ult is basically almost a 1/4 reduction in where it can be cast
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:35:41
August 07 2012 06:34 GMT
#1352
how would you compare the radius on Zyra ult to that of Diana E?

my real question is for Yango, would I be looking foreword to seeing this Sentinels team at the IPL thing next weekend?
Carrilord has arrived.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 07 2012 06:37 GMT
#1353
furthermore, how would you guys compare the radius of both ults to a basketball? What about an irregular fruit, for example a tangerine? Please include math.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:39:52
August 07 2012 06:38 GMT
#1354
On August 07 2012 15:34 Slusher wrote:
how would you compare the radius on Zyra ult to that of Diana E?


The whole point I was trying to get across was that Zyra ult and Orianna ult are ranged while Diana E originates from herself so in most situations a realistic comparison would be comparing Orianna ult diameter to Diana E radius.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:43:00
August 07 2012 06:38 GMT
#1355
On August 07 2012 15:34 Slusher wrote:
how would you compare the radius on Zyra ult to that of Diana E?

my real question is for Yango, would I be looking foreword to seeing this Sentinels team at the IPL thing next weekend?

Meh, I've never really been impressed by the Singapore Sentinels. They're OK, but nothing super inspiring about their play. Part of it might be that they've always been outshined by TPA in GPL, but even a slumping TPA outperforms them, so I'm still quite skeptical.
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 07 2012 06:39 GMT
#1356
You guys are fucking retarded

This thread is not an English course

User was warned for this post
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:55:24
August 07 2012 06:41 GMT
#1357
On August 07 2012 15:28 Feartheguru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 07 2012 15:25 Lmui wrote:
http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=8331242#post8331242

Zyra's getting a pile of nerfs. Not sure if they're quite enough but it's a good starting point.


Wo, that's a lot. I think it might be too much actually. Like the Rioter says the range reduction on ult is basically almost a 1/4 reduction in where it can be cast


It also happens to be one of the largest AoE ultimates in the game that isn't self-centered, has a near instant cast time and basically acts as an area denial for about 1.5s until it pops. If you look at Anivia for example, the only champion I think has a similar ranged large AoE attack, it's 625 range. I was actually expecting a nerf on it down to 650-700 range for a while now. The only person I can find that does more damage with a longer range is leona at level 16 (350 +0.8AP vs the 0.7AP of zyra) at 1200 range.

Edit:: Also hitbox adjustments on the plants would be awesome. They're stupidly hard to click on at some particular angles for no good reason.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-07 06:43:47
August 07 2012 06:43 GMT
#1358
My take on Diana's E is basically this: Diana's E is to Dark Seer's Vacuum just as Anivia Wall is to Earthshaker's Fissure. Both of the LoL-ported versions of the skills are significantly weaker (neither do damage; Anivia Wall doesn't stun, has shorter placement range, and doesn't block as much space until you hit rank 5; Diana's E is PBAoE rather than ranged and doesn't pull as large of an area at higher ranks, but slows), but you're still effectively porting 2 of the most game-changing skills in all of DotA (Dark Seer and Earthshaker are considered to be 2 of the top 4 teamfight heroes in Chinese DotA). Look how game-changing Anivia wall is--that's how important Diana's E is going to be.
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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
August 07 2012 06:45 GMT
#1359
Who's patoy? Is he a regular for dig now or just a sub?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
August 07 2012 06:47 GMT
#1360
On August 07 2012 15:45 Nos- wrote:
Who's patoy? Is he a regular for dig now or just a sub?

he take over permanently for locust
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