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ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
July 28 2012 17:37 GMT
#121
Can't stop thinking that Zenon sounds like Khaldor
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 28 2012 17:37 GMT
#122
M5 have terrible judgement when they aren't ahead. Also M5 have almost no hard cc for team fights.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:38 GMT
#123
Insane communication.

I had no idea why Krepo Shurelya'd and chase after a Kog by himself but he wanted to Headbutt/Pulv Kog to low enough where Froggen could Req for the kill.
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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 28 2012 17:38 GMT
#124
Three of M5 walk into the top tribush right into Malph+Ali CC and lots of AoE. Ouch.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 17:39 GMT
#125
On July 29 2012 02:37 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
M5 have terrible judgement when they aren't ahead. Also M5 have almost no hard cc for team fights.

I think their judgement stays the same, but once they are behind, the other team can punish them for their aggressive playstyle and it makes them look bad.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:40 GMT
#126
ahaha, CLG's favorite nom: Darien. 5 man'd np
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:41:02
July 28 2012 17:40 GMT
#127
My god Froggen is a farming beast. Can't believe Darien was somewhat coming back though, I'd have ragequit lol.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:42:22
July 28 2012 17:41 GMT
#128
As well as Pete did feeding on Darien, late game, Froggen back in the driver seat.

30 min: 270 CS, Deathcap, RoA, DFG, 12-1-2
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
July 28 2012 17:42 GMT
#129
Gold difference, under 2k. wtf
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
July 28 2012 17:43 GMT
#130
Nunu with zekes. Nunu is one of the few supports that actually needs real items. Compare him to cow's items.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
July 28 2012 17:43 GMT
#131
Why does m5 have so many chain vests and stacking armour vs a quad AP team and a stupidly fed Froggen?
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 28 2012 17:44 GMT
#132
Karthus going for Void Staff over Zhonyas. Hm. Still amazed how well M5 are doing trying to keep the gold difference as small as possible.

Re CC issue: CLG have the advantage by having Alistar from the get-go. It's why Ali is top ban material. TSM always keeps him banned, and CLG Ali gets a lot of respect ban in Korea. With Ali+someone else you can AoE CC-lock down a long time.

This is starting to be a repeat of Dreamhack. CLG take bot inhib, let minions push in, bait baron. Force the fight and take Baron.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 17:44 GMT
#133
On July 29 2012 02:43 TheLink wrote:
Why does m5 have so many chain vests and stacking armour vs a quad AP team and a stupidly fed Froggen?

You need chain vest for GA... just saying...
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
July 28 2012 17:46 GMT
#134
On July 29 2012 02:43 TheLink wrote:
Why does m5 have so many chain vests and stacking armour vs a quad AP team and a stupidly fed Froggen?

Froggen has a Void Staff already. Getting MR won't help much any more.

Really great play by CLG forcing M5 to split hard at Baron. Wickd suicided himself onto Koggles to force him to keep running. That let the rest of CLG get the dps on. M5 also failed to burst Ezrael only taking him to 10% before E'ing out and let him proceed to keep right-clicking for the rest of the fight too.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:53:02
July 28 2012 17:51 GMT
#135
Okay so that was good play overall from CLG, but really, Froggen is really doing so much for them. I wonder how CLG would do with another AP of good skill, but not froggen level :D

Edit: also lol Krepo
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
July 28 2012 17:53 GMT
#136
We got lucky sounds much nicer than saying GP did a huge mistake.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-28 17:55:41
July 28 2012 17:54 GMT
#137
RiotJaws: Krepo, when you guys start out the match did you think you'd face the TP Gangplank when you were picking your bot lane?
Krepo: We remember M5 running this strat half a year ago and then take a buff lvl 1. So that's why we warded. We also predicted the counterjungle. He tp-ed when I was lvl 2 right on top of me where I could Pulverise him and that let us get firstblood and snowball and win the early game. (Chiharu Note: M5 GP TP was first shown against TSM in the finals of IEM Kiev)
RiotJaws: You mentioned first blood being a turning point. But it always seemed like a close match. What was the big turning moment in your opinion?
Krepo: It was the late game. We had a good teamfight combo and they have a Koggles with no escape. The later the game goes, the better it gets. Malphite can just go in and shut him down. We just need to get our carries like Ezrael fed, freeze bot lane, and win.
RiotJaws: Good luck for the rest of the tournament.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Sicariidae
Profile Joined May 2011
50 Posts
July 28 2012 17:57 GMT
#138
Rumble should have been banned from the tournament. In his current state, he is ridiculously broken.

450 damage. 135% AP ratio. Or, in Danger Zone, 585 damage. 175% AP ratio. With a 6 second cooldown.

You can't argue any form of balance for Rumble, at the moment. Morello has admitted how much they screwed up and he is being patched as such. Just a shame we have to see him ruin this tournament.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 28 2012 17:58 GMT
#139
Malphite picks UP, Kog picks DOWN.

Another reason why picks/bans so important. If you want to run Kog, ban the rock.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22677 Posts
July 28 2012 17:59 GMT
#140
Then the team that gos second just has to ban him or run the risk of him being picked.

The nature of the draft allowed them to not have to ban champions outright from play.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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