About Eve's lane ganks, suppose you're in range to see her, but she's in a bush. Due to how vision works, if you drop a regular ward in said bush you still won't be able to see her because that'll be the ward's vision and not yours, right?

checo

Mexico1364 Posts

July 20 2012 09:10 GMT

#322

I kinda hate GP cause he gets a free qss, has heal, slow, poision(that by the way stacks), a Q that can crit, extra gold if q kills and now over all that he gets mana after a kill with Q now he will be even harder to take out of the lane and can jungle more eficiently on the early game... just a hatter doing some hate i guess.

Also, love the malz changes, hes my favorite AP and voidling AI was a needed improvement

Zhiroo

Kosovo2724 Posts

July 20 2012 09:14 GMT

#323

On July 20 2012 17:48 JackDino wrote:
Sona has never been gimped.

I found her way weak than other supports before these buffs of today. It seems that changed.

NeedsmoreCELLTECH

Netherlands1242 Posts

July 20 2012 09:15 GMT

#324

Can someone explain to me why Hecarim went from a spectacularly underwhelming jungler to 'free elo huehuehue'? Has he gotten any nerfs recently? His pre-6 ganks are still meh, his post 6 ganks are still strong, right?

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

July 20 2012 09:36 GMT

#325

gman seems to fluxuate between 1700 and 2300 honestly. Depending what champion he plays he randomly seems to have massive elo drops.

Looking at his match history he probably just improved probably a function of playing all day every day for the past like year or so since he switched from NA.

I suck as csing and I don't communicate at all except to troll in chat basically and I'm higher rated than him.

JackDino

Gabon6219 Posts

July 20 2012 09:46 GMT

#326

On July 20 2012 18:36 Slayer91 wrote:
gman seems to fluxuate between 1700 and 2300 honestly. Depending what champion he plays he randomly seems to have massive elo drops.

Looking at his match history he probably just improved probably a function of playing all day every day for the past like year or so since he switched from NA.

I suck as csing and I don't communicate at all except to troll in chat basically and I'm higher rated than him.

Clearly Udyr needs nerfs.

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

July 20 2012 09:47 GMT

#327

He got em!

Lmui

Canada6213 Posts

July 20 2012 10:25 GMT

#328

It feels really weird playing sona, I'm really used to hitting W, powerchording the nearest bruiser, hitting E>Q and then starting the spell rotation again. Now it's powerchord the nearest person you can and then either E>Q>W and powerchord someone or E>W>Q and powerchord someone, depending on which aura you want to be stuck with for the next 5 seconds. The initial burst of spells coming from sona when your team is getting engaged on from is extremely powerful (instant aegis like buff, semi-taric ulti, mini-shurelya's) but the aura lingering for 1 second instead of two is somewhat painful. It's no longer possible to have constant uptime on two spells which made sona so strong after she got enough cdr in teamfights.

Cloud9157

United States2968 Posts

July 20 2012 10:28 GMT

#329

I'm curious as to why everyone thinks be a man improved that much. He always reminded me of a male Irelia that didn't really get to build tanky while doing an absurd amount of damage.

Also, how viable would he be top instead of jungle?

JackDino

Gabon6219 Posts

July 20 2012 10:33 GMT

#330

Shouldn't using E cancel the teleport?

Lorken

New Zealand804 Posts

July 20 2012 10:40 GMT

#331

How do you guys feel about Eve changes? They feel like nerfs to me, I'm sure I'll play her even less than I did before. The entire point of her was the shock of getting a tonne of hp bursted down and now they see her coming from a mile away.

Shadowpostin

Germany798 Posts

July 20 2012 10:43 GMT

#332

I'm glad I get to spend my time on the coast right now,far away from my PC while this eve/twitch craze is going on.imo those are top 2 of the worst designed champs in game right now and riot would be much better of with just removing them.I'm happy that xin is in a better place now!

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

July 20 2012 10:59 GMT

#333

Eve sure feels squishier now... how come? She definitely got weaker at coop vs AI on dominion :p

Alaric

France45622 Posts

July 20 2012 11:05 GMT

#334

We were talking about how champs previously buying HoG would go more toward kindlegem if they plan on getting shurelya, or just skip it altogether. What about champs that don't want Shurelya, like Shen and Mundo? Mundo can get a kindlegem for an early SV, later Zeke's, or just get a ruby and rush aegis. Shen... get an early phage to get some HP? Or early aegis too. He can use Zeke's well, but I'm not sure it's worth the early kindlegem.

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

July 20 2012 11:06 GMT

#335

Or you save up a bit of money and get a Giant's Belt for SFC or Warmog's?

Alaric

France45622 Posts

July 20 2012 11:27 GMT

#336

Dunno, off of boots1 or 2 keeping 1k in the bank kinda sound like gimping yourself when jungling, especially if your opponents play aggressive or counterjungle.

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

July 20 2012 11:29 GMT

#337

Not really how often do you buy hog in 2 backs? Can easily buy a ruby and then get giants belt and have most of a warmogs.

Pamposek

Czech Republic56 Posts

July 20 2012 11:35 GMT

#338

On July 20 2012 17:47 Zhiroo wrote:
So how's Sona now? Is she still gimped or can you actually play her now? Playing only Janna(although my favorite champion) and Leona got a bit boring when playing support.

Sona is still good, but you must play her a little aggresive (her chord is pretty good, even better with patch)

Bladeorade

United States1898 Posts

July 20 2012 12:01 GMT

#339

How does Eve feel nerfed...dafaq? We playing the same champ?

BlueSpace

Germany2182 Posts

July 20 2012 12:43 GMT

#340

The cycle is actually very consistent...

He plays the heroes that he is good at (+ elo) -> His viewers start to whine about him always playing the same heroes -> He starts playing different heroes (- elo) -> His viewers start to whine that he is low elo -> He plays the heroes that he is good at (+elo) -> ...

You get the idea...