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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 21:19:29
June 25 2012 21:18 GMT
#3421
On June 26 2012 06:15 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 05:42 spinesheath wrote:
LoL has the game mechanics to stop someone from autoattacking, see Amumu's ultimate.
Still, what's the difference between not being able to autoattack and your autoattack doing nothing (blinded)???

Minor mechanical differences where certain non-damage on-hit effects apply through blinds.

Udyr, basically (well, iirc... I don't really play Udyr, much less so Udyr vs Teemo).
Any ranged ADs with such effects? Don't think so. Therefore blind serves the intended purpose better as it is most effective against them.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 25 2012 21:29 GMT
#3422
On June 26 2012 05:37 PrinceXizor wrote:
Hey what do you know, mogwai your teemo game showed up on my random ranked game watching thingy in the LoL client. time to creep.

uhg, that game was so frustrating. i open a ward to see maokai, see him camping me while my wave is pushing, ping ali to come, he doesn't come and I just get GGed out of laning phase from 2 level disadvantage. But w/e, 2 ranged DPS still OP endgame so who cares?
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YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
June 25 2012 21:32 GMT
#3423
Is there any site that is to LoL what TL is to SC2/BW? I enjoy the LoL forums here but I feel this is a pretty small sub-community and most posts are limited to the general discussion and specific heroes. I am looking for a site with constant high-level discourse on the state of the game/strategies/balance/heroes/patches/etc.

I have tried the official LoL forums but those are trash, even the "strategy/guide" section is terrible, just like the Blizzard Forums for SC2. I know mobafire is decent for guides but 99% of them are just item builds with little about the game in general. I recently found Reign of Gaming which has nice tier lists as well as some interesting articles.

Is there another site that I am missing that fills this void? The LoL community is huge and active but I can't seem to find anything with the professionalism and helpfulness I have come to expect from TL.
I got nothin'...
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 25 2012 21:33 GMT
#3424
On June 26 2012 06:18 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 06:15 TheYango wrote:
On June 26 2012 05:42 spinesheath wrote:
LoL has the game mechanics to stop someone from autoattacking, see Amumu's ultimate.
Still, what's the difference between not being able to autoattack and your autoattack doing nothing (blinded)???

Minor mechanical differences where certain non-damage on-hit effects apply through blinds.

Udyr, basically (well, iirc... I don't really play Udyr, much less so Udyr vs Teemo).
Any ranged ADs with such effects? Don't think so. Therefore blind serves the intended purpose better as it is most effective against them.

I think Ashe's autocrit is expended even if it misses, and Caitlyn's Headshot still builds up stacks on missed attacks (even if the Headshot proc itself will miss and be expended).
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 25 2012 21:33 GMT
#3425
On June 26 2012 06:32 YouGotNothin wrote:
Is there any site that is to LoL what TL is to SC2/BW? I enjoy the LoL forums here but I feel this is a pretty small sub-community and most posts are limited to the general discussion and specific heroes. I am looking for a site with constant high-level discourse on the state of the game/strategies/balance/heroes/patches/etc.

I have tried the official LoL forums but those are trash, even the "strategy/guide" section is terrible, just like the Blizzard Forums for SC2. I know mobafire is decent for guides but 99% of them are just item builds with little about the game in general. I recently found Reign of Gaming which has nice tier lists as well as some interesting articles.

Is there another site that I am missing that fills this void? The LoL community is huge and active but I can't seem to find anything with the professionalism and helpfulness I have come to expect from TL.


Not really. Closest thing is TL LoL. Solomid/Curse/CLG all just kinda trollfests.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
June 25 2012 21:39 GMT
#3426
On June 26 2012 06:33 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 06:32 YouGotNothin wrote:
Is there any site that is to LoL what TL is to SC2/BW? I enjoy the LoL forums here but I feel this is a pretty small sub-community and most posts are limited to the general discussion and specific heroes. I am looking for a site with constant high-level discourse on the state of the game/strategies/balance/heroes/patches/etc.

I have tried the official LoL forums but those are trash, even the "strategy/guide" section is terrible, just like the Blizzard Forums for SC2. I know mobafire is decent for guides but 99% of them are just item builds with little about the game in general. I recently found Reign of Gaming which has nice tier lists as well as some interesting articles.

Is there another site that I am missing that fills this void? The LoL community is huge and active but I can't seem to find anything with the professionalism and helpfulness I have come to expect from TL.


Not really. Closest thing is TL LoL. Solomid/Curse/CLG all just kinda trollfests.

TeamLiquid still the closest thing to a TL for League of Legends. In fact, I don't know of any other fansite that has a dedicated Wrench, multiple high Elo players with competitive experiences, proper forum moderation and tournament coverage.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 25 2012 21:44 GMT
#3427
On June 26 2012 06:39 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 06:33 iCanada wrote:
On June 26 2012 06:32 YouGotNothin wrote:
Is there any site that is to LoL what TL is to SC2/BW? I enjoy the LoL forums here but I feel this is a pretty small sub-community and most posts are limited to the general discussion and specific heroes. I am looking for a site with constant high-level discourse on the state of the game/strategies/balance/heroes/patches/etc.

I have tried the official LoL forums but those are trash, even the "strategy/guide" section is terrible, just like the Blizzard Forums for SC2. I know mobafire is decent for guides but 99% of them are just item builds with little about the game in general. I recently found Reign of Gaming which has nice tier lists as well as some interesting articles.

Is there another site that I am missing that fills this void? The LoL community is huge and active but I can't seem to find anything with the professionalism and helpfulness I have come to expect from TL.


Not really. Closest thing is TL LoL. Solomid/Curse/CLG all just kinda trollfests.

TeamLiquid still the closest thing to a TL for League of Legends. In fact, I don't know of any other fansite that has a dedicated Wrench, multiple high Elo players with competitive experiences, proper forum moderation and tournament coverage.

Yeah this is one of those questions we get every week or so. I was talking with someone about this, and the thing is, there will NEVER be a site for LoL as TL is to SC2/BW because of how large the community is right now and how spread out it is over multiple sites.

TL succeeded because it filled a niche that had yet to exist at that point in time and grew steadily from there. LoL has multiple info sites, multiple discussion sites, multiple data sites and an absolutely insane number of forums on which the MILLIONS of players are all spread out.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
June 25 2012 21:49 GMT
#3428
I looked at rog's teir list once and it had twitch as a top teir champion. never went back to that site again.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 25 2012 21:52 GMT
#3429
On June 26 2012 06:49 Sermokala wrote:
I looked at rog's teir list once and it had twitch as a top teir champion. never went back to that site again.

huehuehuehue
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-25 21:58:21
June 25 2012 21:58 GMT
#3430
In an unrelated note I've got 3 SMITE closed beta keys and I'll gladly give them out to anyone who wants them from here. First come first serve.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
June 25 2012 22:02 GMT
#3431
Alright thanks for the advice, so next question: is there anything for LoL like a Day9 Daily is for SC2? Day9 really helped me improve my SC2 skill with deep analysis and strategy/tactics discussion. I checked out this guy WinRaR who does a show Game of Throwns in which he analyzed CLG.EU vs M5 games but most of his analysis was of picks and he only spent about 3 minutes analyzing the actual gameplay.

If you can't tell I am kind of stuck at my current LoL skill level and am looking for ways to get better beyond just playing.
I got nothin'...
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
June 25 2012 22:03 GMT
#3432
On June 26 2012 06:49 Sermokala wrote:
I looked at rog's teir list once and it had twitch as a top teir champion. never went back to that site again.


there was a point in time where twitch was the most OP pos of all time and was instaban material.

just sayin'
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
June 25 2012 22:04 GMT
#3433
On June 26 2012 07:03 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2012 06:49 Sermokala wrote:
I looked at rog's teir list once and it had twitch as a top teir champion. never went back to that site again.


there was a point in time where twitch was the most OP pos of all time and was instaban material.

just sayin'


Play twitch like you'd play teemo. Win games!
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6215 Posts
June 25 2012 22:09 GMT
#3434
On June 26 2012 07:02 YouGotNothin wrote:
Alright thanks for the advice, so next question: is there anything for LoL like a Day9 Daily is for SC2? Day9 really helped me improve my SC2 skill with deep analysis and strategy/tactics discussion. I checked out this guy WinRaR who does a show Game of Throwns in which he analyzed CLG.EU vs M5 games but most of his analysis was of picks and he only spent about 3 minutes analyzing the actual gameplay.

If you can't tell I am kind of stuck at my current LoL skill level and am looking for ways to get better beyond just playing.


Studio does some pretty decent analysis. He's as close as you can get to the day9 of LoL

http://www.leagueofstudio.com/
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
June 25 2012 22:11 GMT
#3435
On June 26 2012 07:02 YouGotNothin wrote:
Alright thanks for the advice, so next question: is there anything for LoL like a Day9 Daily is for SC2? Day9 really helped me improve my SC2 skill with deep analysis and strategy/tactics discussion. I checked out this guy WinRaR who does a show Game of Throwns in which he analyzed CLG.EU vs M5 games but most of his analysis was of picks and he only spent about 3 minutes analyzing the actual gameplay.

If you can't tell I am kind of stuck at my current LoL skill level and am looking for ways to get better beyond just playing.

there's a guy called studio who does dailies
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
June 25 2012 22:11 GMT
#3436
On June 26 2012 07:02 YouGotNothin wrote:
Alright thanks for the advice, so next question: is there anything for LoL like a Day9 Daily is for SC2? Day9 really helped me improve my SC2 skill with deep analysis and strategy/tactics discussion. I checked out this guy WinRaR who does a show Game of Throwns in which he analyzed CLG.EU vs M5 games but most of his analysis was of picks and he only spent about 3 minutes analyzing the actual gameplay.

If you can't tell I am kind of stuck at my current LoL skill level and am looking for ways to get better beyond just playing.

There's no dedicated Day[9] type person for LoL. Day[9] is pretty much a phenomenum exclusive to SC2. However, there are lots of instructional videos for certain champions or roles. The main issue is what sort of skill level content it's targetted at and finding the right videos. Some good places to start include Studio, the SoloMid VoD archive and VoDs from pro-player streams when they do tutorials (although these can be a bit harder to track down. GeneralWiser has some massive archives of streamers from CLG though.)
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
June 25 2012 22:11 GMT
#3437
On June 26 2012 07:02 YouGotNothin wrote:
Alright thanks for the advice, so next question: is there anything for LoL like a Day9 Daily is for SC2? Day9 really helped me improve my SC2 skill with deep analysis and strategy/tactics discussion. I checked out this guy WinRaR who does a show Game of Throwns in which he analyzed CLG.EU vs M5 games but most of his analysis was of picks and he only spent about 3 minutes analyzing the actual gameplay.

If you can't tell I am kind of stuck at my current LoL skill level and am looking for ways to get better beyond just playing.


unfortunately, no. There simply isn't really such a resource available at the moment, partially due to a lack of replays (although to be fair, day9 didn't use replays to begin with either), but mostly because no1 that I know of has taken the time to work on it. It might be worth checking out state of the league? I know it isn't necessarily about 'getting better @ LoL' kind of thing, but u do get to hear a lot of pro's perspectives about different topics, and it might help you just in expanding your general game knowledge.

aside from that, browse TL's lol section.... If you do some searching, there are more 'general' gameplay guides around here, like there was a pretty decent discussion thread about AD carries recently, and some other stuff like that floating around.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
June 25 2012 22:13 GMT
#3438
On June 26 2012 07:02 YouGotNothin wrote:
Alright thanks for the advice, so next question: is there anything for LoL like a Day9 Daily is for SC2? Day9 really helped me improve my SC2 skill with deep analysis and strategy/tactics discussion. I checked out this guy WinRaR who does a show Game of Throwns in which he analyzed CLG.EU vs M5 games but most of his analysis was of picks and he only spent about 3 minutes analyzing the actual gameplay.

If you can't tell I am kind of stuck at my current LoL skill level and am looking for ways to get better beyond just playing.

Watch streams.
http://www.solomid.net/streams.php
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
June 25 2012 22:13 GMT
#3439
I'd say just watch some streamers. Scarra if you want to learn stuff about mid. TheOddOne for jungle. Idk what else.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
June 25 2012 22:15 GMT
#3440
I have to say picking Janna as your first main champion to learn mechanics/understanding of the game/genre really spoils you when you pick other tanky supports/slow characters. This week been messing with Ali/Blitz. Lol soooooooooooooooooooo clunky. Even Anivia is surprisingly slow lol.

Speaking of which hows this for Anivia: Sorc Boots> Chalice> Deathcap> Anthene's> Void Staff> Hourglass......
She seems really really mana intensive so Chalice seems good assuming you don't constantly have blue on you. Plus its nice you can uppgrade it into something nice now. WoTa doesn't seem right on her, and most games end before or during when I get hourglass. Maybe a DFG is good on her?
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