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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 16:07:57
June 06 2012 16:07 GMT
#301
On June 06 2012 22:05 Alaric wrote:
Uh... Colby Cheeze rings a bell, but I can't remember where I heard it. Apparently he is a LoL commentator. Is he any good at that (relatively speaking of course, I know in the absolute most commentators are widely considered bad)? He seems like quite the self-centered show-off on his stream.


I don't like his style, voice, or name, and I got matched with him repeatedly like a year ago and he was shit.

So, nothing really positive to say here... haha.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 16:24:20
June 06 2012 16:09 GMT
#302
when I support, Varus is by far my least favorite. If I go Raka so he can q spam it's ok but, then I'm playing Raka.....

@below: I disagree, good Leona play makes pretty much any ad with offensive spells look good. I'd pretty much take any(standard) AD other than Cait or Kog over Varus when I play Leona.
Carrilord has arrived.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 06 2012 16:19 GMT
#303
On June 07 2012 00:32 jacosajh wrote:
IMO, as far as AD carries go, Varus is pretty terribad.

His only redeeming quality is an ult, but even it isn't as reliable as Ashe's ult.

Want to snipe people? Kog's ult doesn't have as high of a CDR and doesn't basically disable you from movement while using.
Want to do extra damage based on how many hits you already applied? Play Vayne, and she has two innate gap closers / escapes.

I feel the money I spent on Varus was a bigger waste than buying Eve right after she got nerfed.


I agree... although Varus/Leona is pretty good, but on the whole I think he's quite underwhelming. Varus is really the only champion I've seriously regretted purchasing.
Perplex
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1693 Posts
June 06 2012 16:35 GMT
#304
Random thought: It would be really cool if this subforum could have an implementation for ELO display on posts. It would certainly give some posts a lot more credibility, and you would know who is talking out of there ass vs. who is actually good or at least above average.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24238059
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
June 06 2012 16:38 GMT
#305
On June 07 2012 01:19 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 00:32 jacosajh wrote:
IMO, as far as AD carries go, Varus is pretty terribad.

His only redeeming quality is an ult, but even it isn't as reliable as Ashe's ult.

Want to snipe people? Kog's ult doesn't have as high of a CDR and doesn't basically disable you from movement while using.
Want to do extra damage based on how many hits you already applied? Play Vayne, and she has two innate gap closers / escapes.

I feel the money I spent on Varus was a bigger waste than buying Eve right after she got nerfed.


I agree... although Varus/Leona is pretty good, but on the whole I think he's quite underwhelming. Varus is really the only champion I've seriously regretted purchasing.


You know you can try out these champions on the PBE before they hit live for free. Bring a friend to avoid the 2 person minimum that sometimes crops up, make a custom game filled with bots. You'll crush the bots regardless but you'll get a good grasp for how fun the champ is or if there's some mechanic you simply hate.

I wish it had been around to help me avoid Fizz, who I bought a skin for and then never played again because it turns out I hate laning mid with melee casters.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 16:39:42
June 06 2012 16:38 GMT
#306
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 16:40:40
June 06 2012 16:40 GMT
#307
Eh people can just do that in their signatures, I don't see a problem with low ELO players making credible posts, most of the time they have good intentions and its reallllllly easy to recognize the people who are "talking out of their ass."
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 06 2012 16:44 GMT
#308
If people talk out of their ass and you don't realize it, you deserve to have bad opinions as a result.

ELO has nothing to do with intelligence or how right a person is either... I know some guys....
A backwards poet writes inverse.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 06 2012 17:01 GMT
#309
On June 07 2012 01:35 Perplex wrote:
Random thought: It would be really cool if this subforum could have an implementation for ELO display on posts. It would certainly give some posts a lot more credibility, and you would know who is talking out of there ass vs. who is actually good or at least above average.

Appeal to authority, huh?

You don't have to have high elo to know what you are talking about. People with high elo can also be completely wrong on some things.

Besides, anyone with an elo > 1200 is already above average...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 06 2012 17:08 GMT
#310
Pro players say shit that's straight wrong all the time anyways. "Yorick is shit" proceeds to become fotm. "Talon is awful" Dignitas runs him in double assassin comp and dominates with him. "TheOddOne: Ezreal is the worst AD carry" proceeds to be played in 10 games at the next LAN with the highest win rate of any AD carry.

If pro players are wrong so often then I would imagine that high Elo and low Elo players are wrong just as often about the shit they say. Not to mention I don't think anyone on these forums save locodoco is a pro player. It's safe to say that every champion and nearly every strategy is viable for the vast vast majority of people who post here.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
June 06 2012 17:15 GMT
#311
On June 07 2012 02:08 overt wrote:
Pro players say shit that's straight wrong all the time anyways. "Yorick is shit" proceeds to become fotm. "Talon is awful" Dignitas runs him in double assassin comp and dominates with him. "TheOddOne: Ezreal is the worst AD carry" proceeds to be played in 10 games at the next LAN with the highest win rate of any AD carry.

If pro players are wrong so often then I would imagine that high Elo and low Elo players are wrong just as often about the shit they say. Not to mention I don't think anyone on these forums save locodoco is a pro player. It's safe to say that every champion and nearly every strategy is viable for the vast vast majority of people who post here.


Plz don't use those examples because they are just wrong.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
June 06 2012 17:17 GMT
#312
On June 07 2012 02:15 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 02:08 overt wrote:
Pro players say shit that's straight wrong all the time anyways. "Yorick is shit" proceeds to become fotm. "Talon is awful" Dignitas runs him in double assassin comp and dominates with him. "TheOddOne: Ezreal is the worst AD carry" proceeds to be played in 10 games at the next LAN with the highest win rate of any AD carry.

If pro players are wrong so often then I would imagine that high Elo and low Elo players are wrong just as often about the shit they say. Not to mention I don't think anyone on these forums save locodoco is a pro player. It's safe to say that every champion and nearly every strategy is viable for the vast vast majority of people who post here.


Plz don't use those examples because they are just wrong.

Maybe they are right, but your ELO is not high enough to detect it.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 06 2012 17:17 GMT
#313
On June 07 2012 02:15 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 02:08 overt wrote:
Pro players say shit that's straight wrong all the time anyways. "Yorick is shit" proceeds to become fotm. "Talon is awful" Dignitas runs him in double assassin comp and dominates with him. "TheOddOne: Ezreal is the worst AD carry" proceeds to be played in 10 games at the next LAN with the highest win rate of any AD carry.

If pro players are wrong so often then I would imagine that high Elo and low Elo players are wrong just as often about the shit they say. Not to mention I don't think anyone on these forums save locodoco is a pro player. It's safe to say that every champion and nearly every strategy is viable for the vast vast majority of people who post here.


Plz don't use those examples because they are just wrong.


These are the greatest of examples.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
June 06 2012 17:20 GMT
#314
On June 07 2012 02:17 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 02:15 0123456789 wrote:
On June 07 2012 02:08 overt wrote:
Pro players say shit that's straight wrong all the time anyways. "Yorick is shit" proceeds to become fotm. "Talon is awful" Dignitas runs him in double assassin comp and dominates with him. "TheOddOne: Ezreal is the worst AD carry" proceeds to be played in 10 games at the next LAN with the highest win rate of any AD carry.

If pro players are wrong so often then I would imagine that high Elo and low Elo players are wrong just as often about the shit they say. Not to mention I don't think anyone on these forums save locodoco is a pro player. It's safe to say that every champion and nearly every strategy is viable for the vast vast majority of people who post here.


Plz don't use those examples because they are just wrong.

Maybe they are right, but your ELO is not high enough to detect it.


My elo is as big as my penis. Low when not erect, gets longer when I feel stimulated, full blown LARGE LIKE A LIMO when I decide to unleash it.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 06 2012 17:21 GMT
#315
On June 07 2012 02:17 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2012 02:15 0123456789 wrote:
On June 07 2012 02:08 overt wrote:
Pro players say shit that's straight wrong all the time anyways. "Yorick is shit" proceeds to become fotm. "Talon is awful" Dignitas runs him in double assassin comp and dominates with him. "TheOddOne: Ezreal is the worst AD carry" proceeds to be played in 10 games at the next LAN with the highest win rate of any AD carry.

If pro players are wrong so often then I would imagine that high Elo and low Elo players are wrong just as often about the shit they say. Not to mention I don't think anyone on these forums save locodoco is a pro player. It's safe to say that every champion and nearly every strategy is viable for the vast vast majority of people who post here.


Plz don't use those examples because they are just wrong.


These are the greatest of examples.

They are actually pretty true, alot of pro players have a burning hatred for Ezreal, Oddone/Saint Vicious in particular.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 06 2012 17:22 GMT
#316
TheOddOne jungled Hecarim the other day and maxed E first. Brb jungling Rammus and maxing Q.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14208 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 17:35:53
June 06 2012 17:23 GMT
#317
just broke 200 cs under 20 minutes for the first time. picked up 3 kills as well. Feel much less like a scrub now.

I don't know what to get when I start snowballing like that. After a rylias and boots of mobility I don't know what to get. a gunblade rush isn't giving me the dps I'm looking for but a deathcap that early won't really kick in like I want it to. Spell vamp doesn't seem like a good investment anymore after the heavy nerf to only get 20% after 2.5kg. Would a haunting guise +void staff into an abyssal scepter and then finally a deathcap to make my dps go out the roof be what I should be looking at?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
June 06 2012 17:25 GMT
#318
right, people who don't play the role. it's sorta like my hatred of Lux, except that I'm right to think that lux sucks at everything.
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CaffeineFree-_-
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States712 Posts
June 06 2012 17:36 GMT
#319
Anyone know what the patch is for? Some bug fix?
We say we love flowers, yet we pluck them. We say we love trees, yet we cut them down. And people still wonder why some are afraid when told they are loved
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
June 06 2012 17:42 GMT
#320
On June 07 2012 02:25 Mogwai wrote:
right, people who don't play the role. it's sorta like my hatred of Lux, except that I'm right to think that lux sucks at everything.



I also hate the fuck out of Lux. She is such a useless bitch.
Never Knows Best.
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