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[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 15

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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
June 06 2012 11:05 GMT
#281
On June 06 2012 19:38 Chexx wrote:
if you need to play with sunglasses chances are that you are a douche are pretty high


I just his video on top of reddit, and wow... Douche levels too high.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 06 2012 11:07 GMT
#282
On June 06 2012 19:04 JackDino wrote:
I like how whenever M5 plays commentators always call them the best team in europe yet clg.eu wins just as much matches as m5 and even wins against m5.


As in any other game, offline events are the ultimate decider.
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Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
June 06 2012 11:11 GMT
#283
On June 06 2012 20:05 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 19:38 Chexx wrote:
if you need to play with sunglasses chances are that you are a douche are pretty high


I just his video on top of reddit, and wow... Douche levels too high.


LOL. This is the first session he's worn those glasses, he explained that he just got them today and wanted to wear them for fun ^^
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 06 2012 12:01 GMT
#284
So I played Draven now and personally the mechanics are pretty funny and 1 game i got fed and the other 2 my team just failed but my personaly opinion is that he's not that good of a carry bc of (my urge) to catch the axes which pretty much reflect some concerns from other posters earlier that positioning suffers^^

Gonna try him top lane or mid but he should be crazy good to zone people especially the typical toplane bruiser if they get spinning axe in the face every autoattack?
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
June 06 2012 12:51 GMT
#285
Yeah I know it's normal, but I haven't played league since D3 came out, and I never even looked at Darius before this game, but many lulz were had. Felt like boasting sorry

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"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
June 06 2012 12:58 GMT
#286
It's the legendary no jungle; under 100 cs at 20 minutes strats!
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 06 2012 13:05 GMT
#287
Uh... Colby Cheeze rings a bell, but I can't remember where I heard it. Apparently he is a LoL commentator. Is he any good at that (relatively speaking of course, I know in the absolute most commentators are widely considered bad)? He seems like quite the self-centered show-off on his stream.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
BreakfastBurrito
Profile Joined November 2011
United States893 Posts
June 06 2012 13:06 GMT
#288
On June 06 2012 21:58 SagaZ wrote:
It's the legendary no jungle; under 100 cs at 20 minutes strats!

agreed, looks to me like the other team just ended up being a bunch of monkeys combined with darius snowball powa
not last hitting is new meta
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Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
June 06 2012 13:09 GMT
#289
How can a Morgana have only 51 cs in 20 mins. That baffles me. No matter how bad you are all you do is soil dat cs.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 06 2012 13:12 GMT
#290
That how I discuss it with a high Elo friend: "at your Elo Morg is banned because she's good, at mine she's banned because they have no idea how to exploit the stacks of mistakes she does" and "at my Elo people will have 80 cs by 20 minutes whether or not they play Morgana, it's just that they try their best when they don't have her, and don't try at all because "it's easy" when theyy play her". :D
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 13:25:51
June 06 2012 13:24 GMT
#291
On June 06 2012 21:58 SagaZ wrote:
It's the legendary no jungle; under 100 cs at 20 minutes strats!

Troll games on norm are the lulz

On June 06 2012 22:09 Zhiroo wrote:
How can a Morgana have only 51 cs in 20 mins. That baffles me. No matter how bad you are all you do is soil dat cs.

I kinda raped her face off

I basically went top lane until I was level 5, then just killed everyone the entire time. That's why my CS is low. My average CS over 1k games = ~150
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 14:03:30
June 06 2012 13:57 GMT
#292
Dravens q giving him an auto boost of 85% of his total AD seems a little high..

total not bonus*
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 14:11:35
June 06 2012 13:59 GMT
#293
It is of his total damage, not bonus AD. So yeah, it's pretty strong, I guess it's to help compensate for the dps he'll miss while running to catch axes.
From what I've seen on stream, you usually don't have the time to attack twice before moving to catch the axe hurled by the first attack. I guess it would be possible at higher AS values, but as it is it looks like unless they're chasing (or have two axes ready) they lose a lot of dps.

Btw, wiki says his passive stacks. Does anyone know how many stacks it can gather? Stackable DoTs passives aren't too good I believe, and with GP and Darius we already had enough. :/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 14:46:16
June 06 2012 14:40 GMT
#294
Holy crap draven so fun!
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
June 06 2012 14:47 GMT
#295
I want to buy another AD Carry but can't decide wether to buy Varus or Draven...
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 15:03:13
June 06 2012 14:55 GMT
#296
You've got an emo hunchback and a professional wrestler. Sounds pretty straightforward to me.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
June 06 2012 15:06 GMT
#297
So Draven it is.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
June 06 2012 15:32 GMT
#298
IMO, as far as AD carries go, Varus is pretty terribad.

His only redeeming quality is an ult, but even it isn't as reliable as Ashe's ult.

Want to snipe people? Kog's ult doesn't have as high of a CDR and doesn't basically disable you from movement while using.
Want to do extra damage based on how many hits you already applied? Play Vayne, and she has two innate gap closers / escapes.

I feel the money I spent on Varus was a bigger waste than buying Eve right after she got nerfed.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
June 06 2012 15:40 GMT
#299
Wow, i just tested Draven and i have to say that i'm suprised that it's not an "easy" champion like Darius. A really good player who manages to juggle the axes correctly could probably out-damage every other champion easily... but it's not easy keeping up with those axes while still constantly attacking the right targets and using Blood Rush. It looks to me like a really skill (in terms of player skill) based champion, deadly in the right hands, useless in the wrong.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 06 2012 15:45 GMT
#300
Apparently (from PL's stream), once you have a phantom dancer you can attack fast enough to attack twice and then catch an axe if you don't move.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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