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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 09 2012 19:40 GMT
#1881
Candy Panda going Q>w>q>e... I mean he has Raka but I still think E has more utility in lane.
Carrilord has arrived.
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
May 09 2012 19:44 GMT
#1882
On May 10 2012 04:40 Slusher wrote:
Candy Panda going Q>w>q>e... I mean he has Raka but I still think E has more utility in lane.


Max Q, miss 3/4 of Qs. Good strategy.
=O
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 09 2012 19:53 GMT
#1883
contesting blue buff = trolling?

news to me
Carrilord has arrived.
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
May 09 2012 20:13 GMT
#1884
Dyrus said this in the interview on dignitas' webiste:
http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/blogs/League-of-Legends/1365/Interview-with-TSM-Dyrus-Though-reginald-might-stop-after-season-2-and-just-focus-on-working

I think the best top laner I’ve ever faced top was Wickd trailing behind him I would say Voyboy. For any other top laners I haven't played them enough to determine it, such as soaz or darien. I've never played against them at all or enough. If we were going by experience for who has beaten me top the most I would say burbs who isn't even a pro player.

Isn't burbs TL?
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
May 09 2012 20:18 GMT
#1885
Burbs is not TL
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 09 2012 20:20 GMT
#1886
Burbs just friends with a lot of TL people.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
May 09 2012 20:31 GMT
#1887
what is regi's business?
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
May 09 2012 20:37 GMT
#1888
On May 10 2012 05:31 nosliw wrote:
what is regi's business?

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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
May 09 2012 20:47 GMT
#1889
I'm still working on AP/hybrid Varus, tried going rageblade->zerker's->dcap, still dealt a pretty good amount of damage with autoattacks, did a surprisingly huge amount when coupled with triggering W with his R -- I could see it being legitimately scary in mid. The problem I ran into was that the build comepletely lacks the sustain of the traditional AD builds, which sucks. Gonna try going rageblade->gunblade later tonight. Triggering W charges should provide spell vamp, right? What about the bonus magic damage that W gives to autos?
whole lies with a half smile
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 20:51:51
May 09 2012 20:50 GMT
#1890
On May 10 2012 05:47 Node wrote:
Triggering W charges should provide spell vamp, right? What about the bonus magic damage that W gives to autos?

No, and no.

From the wiki:
Blighted Quiver and Blight detonation do not proc spell vamp or Rylai's slow.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
May 09 2012 21:01 GMT
#1891
Balls.
whole lies with a half smile
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 09 2012 21:02 GMT
#1892
the .25 modifier for on-hit blight seems pretty bad compared to just building ad, and getting the scaling on Q and E in return.
Carrilord has arrived.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 21:15:23
May 09 2012 21:11 GMT
#1893
On May 10 2012 05:47 Node wrote:
I'm still working on AP/hybrid Varus, tried going rageblade->zerker's->dcap, still dealt a pretty good amount of damage with autoattacks, did a surprisingly huge amount when coupled with triggering W with his R -- I could see it being legitimately scary in mid. The problem I ran into was that the build comepletely lacks the sustain of the traditional AD builds, which sucks. Gonna try going rageblade->gunblade later tonight. Triggering W charges should provide spell vamp, right? What about the bonus magic damage that W gives to autos?


Tbh you might want to go Cutlass before rageblade. Lifesteal, AD and a ranged slow/nuke that doesn't require 20% of your mana pool? Hell yeah.

Oh and Varus does pretty well mid right?

How about a team comp with Soraka/manafed AP bot (Cassio/Anivia/Karthus/ and Varus mid? Yes/No?
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 09 2012 21:13 GMT
#1894
Dudes saying "he's OP, I saw him tank nashor with only wriggles and Phage !"
... y'know, if he can do it, any champ can do it, he's got no steroid whatsoever in regard to lifesteal on a single target.

Also, I'm seeing normals right now in featured games, one had a level 23 account in it. Great. Only saw Varus win lanes, but only saw the opposing AD or support playing like a total retard too. Doesn't make me learn much.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
May 09 2012 21:13 GMT
#1895
I think Hybrid Varus might be best Varus.
Rageblade is really REALLY good on him. If i recall correctly, 3 AA + 1 skill (which triggers max W), so 4 stacks on Rageblade, hits his scaling % breakpoint on W, which means baller damage.

Main problem with AS/AP hybrid is his long-ish cooldowns, but maybe it wouldn't be all that bad to build Nashor's on him.
Yes, I just suggested building Nashors on someone. Deal w/ it.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
May 09 2012 21:23 GMT
#1896
On May 10 2012 06:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
I think Hybrid Varus might be best Varus.
Rageblade is really REALLY good on him. If i recall correctly, 3 AA + 1 skill (which triggers max W), so 4 stacks on Rageblade, hits his scaling % breakpoint on W, which means baller damage.

Main problem with AS/AP hybrid is his long-ish cooldowns, but maybe it wouldn't be all that bad to build Nashor's on him.
Yes, I just suggested building Nashors on someone. Deal w/ it.


Ӧ

jk someone was talking about this a little while ago:

On May 09 2012 03:28 NEOtheONE wrote:
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On May 09 2012 03:25 JackDino wrote:
On May 09 2012 03:23 NEOtheONE wrote:
On May 09 2012 03:21 Shifft wrote:
On May 09 2012 03:11 NEOtheONE wrote:
On May 09 2012 02:45 Requizen wrote:
So for Varus, you think 21/0/9 for mana regen or 21/9/0 to get defenses to make up for lack of escape? I use utility on Ez and Corki because I oom all the time, but I feel like you can still do some damage with Varus thanks to his W DoT even without mana.


I'm leaning towards the 21/0/9 idea personally. I am going to have to make a AD caster page for masteries since I want to play more Ezreal at some point. So how good is rageblade on Varus? It sounds like a really good item for him but how does it pan out? Also, what about Nashor's Tooth? Use those 2 for AS and AP and then get BT or IE. Malady would be another interesting option as well.


At first glance I would assume they work similar to Kayle in that Nashor's and Rageblade give you a pretty strong midgame but by the time lategame rolls around you're wishing you had just built normal AD items instead.


Well, I'm suggesting replacing the PD with one of these so I can still get the AS but also get some AP.

You want the critz tho.


And that's why I'd get the IE rather than one of his recommended items. I get crit% more crit damage, AP, AS, mana regen, and CDR.

So the build would be something like IE, NT, BT, defensive item specific to enemy team comp, beserkers greaves or boots related to enemy team comp, and then the last item can vary based on the enemy team. If I am face-rolling I'd consider a PD as last item, if I am dying then maybe a GA or another defensive item.

It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 09 2012 21:24 GMT
#1897
On May 10 2012 06:13 Alaric wrote:
Dudes saying "he's OP, I saw him tank nashor with only wriggles and Phage !"
... y'know, if he can do it, any champ can do it, he's got no steroid whatsoever in regard to lifesteal on a single target.

Also, I'm seeing normals right now in featured games, one had a level 23 account in it. Great. Only saw Varus win lanes, but only saw the opposing AD or support playing like a total retard too. Doesn't make me learn much.


That's kind of funny actually. How are those games being featured? lol.

I actually think Varus is kind of shitty in lane phase. That or I'm just playing with people who are bad. As any AD I've played against him I've won lane pretty convincingly. I think the only way he can win out is to use his Q to harass enough but I find his Q really easy to predict if he charges it up and if he just insta-fires it I can often just take the hit and then retaliate myself.

For what it's worth, I crushed Varus as Corki, Graves, and Kog'Maw.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
May 09 2012 21:25 GMT
#1898
in all honesty, nothing can compare to the damage of a regular AD carry build. you're gimping yourself out of damage if you think getting those other items is worth it.
BW -> League -> CSGO
NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-09 21:38:50
May 09 2012 21:36 GMT
#1899
Pretty sure people had this same knee-jerk reaction to Vayne, MUST BUILD ASPD OMG I DO SO MUCH DMG %HP. Except Varus scales LESS with aspd than Vayne, because to trigger it all you have to use and land a skillshot. Vayne can just herpderp autoattack, but you don't see anyone just stacking straight aspd on her, and for a good reason. You just don't do as much damage as you would with the generic AD carry build. Varus is also less mobile and more vulnerable than Vayne, who is already one of the more difficult AD carries to position, meaning forgoing lifesteal makes you that much easier to kill.
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 09 2012 21:39 GMT
#1900
On May 10 2012 06:24 overt wrote:
I actually think Varus is kind of shitty in lane phase. That or I'm just playing with people who are bad. As any AD I've played against him I've won lane pretty convincingly. I think the only way he can win out is to use his Q to harass enough but I find his Q really easy to predict if he charges it up and if he just insta-fires it I can often just take the hit and then retaliate myself.

I'm facepalming obsing a number of people eat a very predictable Q fully charged in front of them (when a smart Varus does it from a bush, 'k, but right on front of you?).

I'm sighing reading a guy say "he's doing so much more damage than Corki's burst early game!".
Yeah. And next time he talks I'll read "his level 2 burst is so superior to Tristana's!".
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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