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[Patch 1.0.0.138: Hecarim] General Discussion - Page 138

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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 05:47:21
April 30 2012 05:44 GMT
#2741
wtf so many skins Oo

no HD Stream? TT
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 05:53:52
April 30 2012 05:49 GMT
#2742
On April 30 2012 14:40 TheYango wrote:
At long last, NGF is going to start.
http://www.twitch.tv/nvidiageforce

Bans: tf, kennen, galio ||| shen, mundo, vlad

TPA: morgana soraka nidalee urgot trundle
WE: cassio janna ashe nocturne leesin


is there some english stream or only in mandarin?
stream extremely choppy =(
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
April 30 2012 05:57 GMT
#2743
why is their hero's avatar different?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 30 2012 06:03 GMT
#2744
I just had a Tiamat MF and a WOTA Gunblade Wriggles Skarner. I dunno if I should be mad or amazed.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
April 30 2012 06:08 GMT
#2745
On April 30 2012 14:44 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 14:37 infinitestory wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:31 jadoth wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:24 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
A decently farmed volibear is pretty scary. I think he's really under-appreciated atm, people haven't played him enough to figure him out. Not that I'm complaining though, he's really obnoxious to play against.


support voli bear is supper strong and obnoxious. i have never not gotten fed with him as my support.

Correlation doesn't imply causation, and even then your first sentence still confuses me. Volibear has no poke, a long-cd sustain for only himself, and one relatively poor CC. I'd like to see one reason he's better than Blitz support.


idk. he starts boots runs at them flips them and does the damages then i kill them. i have played with support voli eight or nine times and have steamrolled every one of them. i even played against one and lost my lane by a kill and 30 cs. i don't know why he is strong but he is.


I've only played him once as support and it went ok. It depends on how your opponents play really, if they don't know how to vs a kill lane than anyone could replace voli and you'd still win (singed, blitz, leona etc).

I've played him a fair bit after he went on sale a month or two ago and I'm still not sold. If you get the early kills he can be really strong coming out of the jungle but otherwise you have to wait for his mid-to-late-game powercurve to really shine.

Top lane I just get bullied too much
@miicah88
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 30 2012 06:41 GMT
#2746
http://www.reignofgaming.net/redtracker/topic/63203-riot-katarina

Hopefully they buff her a little bit so she won't be played by fotm kiddies but I'll be able to stomp with her :D
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
April 30 2012 06:44 GMT
#2747
On April 30 2012 14:36 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 14:24 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
A decently farmed volibear is pretty scary. I think he's really under-appreciated atm, people haven't played him enough to figure him out. Not that I'm complaining though, he's really obnoxious to play against.


Yeah, I'd agree.

Tops he so good because any gank is a free kill because he has the throw, a slow, AND big damages. I think he a good bruiser.

I feel like Voli has way too many poor match ups top. He's a solid jungler though imo. Maxing E, you have pretty fast clears, a decent 1v1 potential, and super strong ganks.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 30 2012 06:47 GMT
#2748
On April 30 2012 15:44 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 14:36 iCanada wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:24 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
A decently farmed volibear is pretty scary. I think he's really under-appreciated atm, people haven't played him enough to figure him out. Not that I'm complaining though, he's really obnoxious to play against.


Yeah, I'd agree.

Tops he so good because any gank is a free kill because he has the throw, a slow, AND big damages. I think he a good bruiser.

I feel like Voli has way too many poor match ups top. He's a solid jungler though imo. Maxing E, you have pretty fast clears, a decent 1v1 potential, and super strong ganks.

Dont matter how many poor matchups he has.

He presS Q and whoever he laning against dead no matter who the jungler is.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
April 30 2012 07:06 GMT
#2749
lilballz is still such a beast
Hey! Listen!
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
April 30 2012 07:08 GMT
#2750
On April 30 2012 15:44 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 14:36 iCanada wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:24 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
A decently farmed volibear is pretty scary. I think he's really under-appreciated atm, people haven't played him enough to figure him out. Not that I'm complaining though, he's really obnoxious to play against.


Yeah, I'd agree.

Tops he so good because any gank is a free kill because he has the throw, a slow, AND big damages. I think he a good bruiser.

I feel like Voli has way too many poor match ups top. He's a solid jungler though imo. Maxing E, you have pretty fast clears, a decent 1v1 potential, and super strong ganks.


he has some not-so-great matchups, but he has very few where he outright loses in my experience. Also, he gets pretty fucking strong once he gets his first sustain item (either wriggles, or sometimes i've messed around with bilgewater cutlass). His burst is also pretty big, most ppl completely underestimate it.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 08:14:01
April 30 2012 07:26 GMT
#2751
wow spec mode is pretty cool. it seems to keep track of the battles pretty well. they are also naming skins on PBE in the loading screens now. Like... you see Bloodlord Vladimir, Dragonfist Lee Sin and stuff in the names also varus is really strong imo.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-30 07:39:10
April 30 2012 07:37 GMT
#2752
wowwww. dat flash+ult by cassio onto ez was so clutch :O
lol...dat fully farmed kog
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
April 30 2012 07:40 GMT
#2753
anyone else been maxing e first on hecarim? its fun. i played a few games top and it works pretty well. i saw someone in one of my games doing this and had to try it. i go 2x gp5, mercs, sheen. and every time e is off cd try to hit them with a charged up attack.

maxing e first really has made me a better hec player in general i think. i understand where his damage comes from and how to maximize it better now. late game hec is just a beast.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 30 2012 07:50 GMT
#2754
I've decided Youmuu's Ghostblade is the sickest item on Shyvana. The Armor Pen not really that great on her, but she utilizes the active better than the vast majority of the champs in the game. If you grab Ghostblade+Mallet instead of the more standard Triforce and WIts you just kill everything. So much damage.

That said it doesn't really build well on her. Bruta a ton of meh, and there is no real need for a GP10 on Shyvana.... so Wits has a more consistent powercurve, but if you skip wits and wait the extra 400 gold for YGB you get so powerful it is silly.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 30 2012 08:02 GMT
#2755
Ok, I am retarded, never heard of this NGF and only found out just now that it is in Shanghai where I currently am. Damn, I always wanted to attend a LoL event.
Terran
Kaneh
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada737 Posts
April 30 2012 08:27 GMT
#2756
On April 30 2012 14:44 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2012 14:37 infinitestory wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:31 jadoth wrote:
On April 30 2012 14:24 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
A decently farmed volibear is pretty scary. I think he's really under-appreciated atm, people haven't played him enough to figure him out. Not that I'm complaining though, he's really obnoxious to play against.


support voli bear is supper strong and obnoxious. i have never not gotten fed with him as my support.

Correlation doesn't imply causation, and even then your first sentence still confuses me. Volibear has no poke, a long-cd sustain for only himself, and one relatively poor CC. I'd like to see one reason he's better than Blitz support.


idk. he starts boots runs at them flips them and does the damages then i kill them. i have played with support voli eight or nine times and have steamrolled every one of them. i even played against one and lost my lane by a kill and 30 cs. i don't know why he is strong but he is.


mostly because people don't play against him, so they don't ward side bushes and just eat the whole combo and die. Or they try to focus him and forget about his passive, etc. Just matchup inexperience. same shit with nautilus. same with leona.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 30 2012 08:39 GMT
#2757
Is there a bug with this patch in ranked champ select?. Sometime I can only see the captain of other team, sometime I am able to view the whole team. This is really annoying
Terran
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
April 30 2012 09:21 GMT
#2758
On April 30 2012 17:39 Caphe wrote:
Is there a bug with this patch in ranked champ select?. Sometime I can only see the captain of other team, sometime I am able to view the whole team. This is really annoying

Sounds like a bannable offense.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
April 30 2012 09:31 GMT
#2759
Hey guys
Have you ever considered putting AP Quints on Sona before? I just played against one with AP quints and my God did her Chord hurt like a mofo.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 30 2012 09:35 GMT
#2760
On April 30 2012 18:31 Shiragaku wrote:
Hey guys
Have you ever considered putting AP Quints on Sona before? I just played against one with AP quints and my God did her Chord hurt like a mofo.


After casting 3 spells, Sona's next attack deals extra 8 + (10 × level) magic damage. This enhanced attack has an additional effect depending on which spell aura she currently has.

No AP ratio on Power Chord.

Her Q has a 0.7 AP ratio, so ~10 extra damage with AP quints. I'd rather get AD quints to be honest.
I usually go AD marks and HP quints though.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
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